Virginia Tech Murders (7 Viewers)

Jem83

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Nov 7, 2005
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Look, I could sit here and tell you my goal in life is to make a difference there. And at this point I believe it is. But until I have actually done something, I'm going to keep quiet about it. Because saying I care, means shit. And saying I want to do something means shit as well.

Feeling sorrow and grief is a good thing for the people who are directly involved. For all others it's pointless.
Oh, really?

What if it inspires someone to write a beautiful poem?

What if it inspires someone to paint a beautiful picture?

What if it touches lovers in such a way that they embrace each other that very same night and conceive a love child?

What if?

You ignorant little boy! What if it's not pointless at all!?
 
Jan 7, 2004
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Oh, really?

What if it inspires someone to write a beautiful poem?

What if it inspires someone to paint a beautiful picture?

What if it touches lovers in such a way that they embrace each other that very same night and conceive a love child?

What if?

You ignorant little boy! What if it's not pointless at all!?

is that poem bullet proof?

is that picture made of nutrients?


grow up
 
Jan 7, 2004
29,704
no amount of poems or pictures can do anything now. people who need comforting need to be told "somebody screwed up, shit happened, this is what we are going to do to help you in any way we can, this is what we are going to do to make sure it doesnt happen again"
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,313
Oh, really?

What if it inspires someone to write a beautiful poem?

What if it inspires someone to paint a beautiful picture?

What if it touches lovers in such a way that they embrace each other that very same night and conceive a love child?

What if?

You ignorant little boy! What if it's not pointless at all!?
W.H. Auden once wrote a great poem. "Stop all the clocks", you know how it goes? It's a great poem, no doubt.


I don't give shit about the guy who died.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,313
no amount of poems or pictures can do anything now. people who need comforting need to be told "somebody screwed up, shit happened, this is what we are going to do to help you in any way we can, this is what we are going to do to make sure it doesnt happen again"
Exactly. And an emotional reaction will blur all this and will let people get away with it.
 

Jem83

maitre'd at Canal Bar
Nov 7, 2005
22,870
no amount of poems or pictures can do anything now. people who need comforting need to be told "somebody screwed up, shit happened, this is what we are going to do to help you in any way we can, this is what we are going to do to make sure it doesnt happen again"
I completely agree. However, my last post was personal between me and Seven and it was in general, on empathizing with others, and I stick by what I said. It can never be pointless to care about other people.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,313
I completely agree. However, my last post was personal between me and Seven and it was in general, on empathizing with others, and I stick by what I said. It can never be pointless to care about other people.
U2 wrote a good song about bloody sunday. You know why it worked? Because they're Irish.
 

Jem83

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Nov 7, 2005
22,870
U2 wrote a good song about bloody sunday. You know why it worked? Because they're Irish.
This argument is not a valid response.

So it's "Stick to your own and f*ck the rest" for you? (Not that this was entirely what I read into your message..)

But just open a history book and see how far that has gotten us..

It is when we unite we can overcome evil
 

Jem83

maitre'd at Canal Bar
Nov 7, 2005
22,870
For Seven:

"If"

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings--nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much,
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!

By Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936).
 

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