Violence could halt Italian football/Calcio suspended (1 Viewer)

[Slagathor]

I remember seeing Juve at Siena's Franchi a couple years back. It's like a high school stadium, where seating choices are practically a free-for-all. Not exactly the safest place I've ever sat ... even if they're pretty good about handing out the bottles without caps.

Though on their defence: once you're seated and someone on the stands next to yours is provoking a fight, you'll have to scream it out over the grand canyon in between cause you can't get there.

"You are so lucky I can't reach you"
"Oh yeah?"
"Yeah!"

 

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Napoli President Aurelio De Laurentiis has attacked the Government over their proposals to eradicate football violence. “Clubs could go on strike,” he warned.

Italy’s top two Divisions look set to resume at the weekend after Friday night’s riots in Catania, but the proposed new measures means that a host of games will be played behind closed doors.

Clubs whose stadiums do not meet with the specifications of the Legge Pisanu will be forced to lock out fans and only four stadia in Serie A [Rome, Palermo, Siena, Turin] and one in Serie B [Turin] currently fit the bill.

De Laurentiis, after the crisis talks between Government and football authorities on Tuesday, said: “If there are no security guarantees then why should we play?

“Clubs might decide to go on strike. I don’t think the Government should be so superficial while facing a problem as important and vital for Italy such as football.

“We should claim damages from the Italian Football Federation, the Italian Olympic Committee and the Government itself. They were unable to develop the world of sport in an appropriate way.

“This is fascism. We cannot be told what to do and forced to play or not.”

The Government and footballing authorities are going down a road in which they hope clubs will own their own stadiums, but De Laurentiis insists that would be financially problematic.

“Clubs do not have the money needed to do this, it has to happen progressively,” added the movie mogul.

“I cannot believe that you need to invest £107m to be allowed to host four Euro 2012 matches. Everyone must understand that we don’t need to build cathedrals in the desert.”

Most stadiums in Italy are owned by councils who then rent the grounds to clubs for their own use
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[AngelaL]

De Laurentiis has a point. What has the government done to help the sport?
The games have been halted & now they say they must play behind closed doors. This will affect many small teams, that are dependent on "gate" money. (Napoli obviously will feel this because they have a large support & their gate receipts are high.
They also want clubs to implement safety & security measures, but how much has the govenment given them to do so? None, I bet! Some clubs may have rich owners to help foot the bill, but "little" clubs, who are in the majority don't. Prodi should stump up some of the money he has fleeced from the Italian people, so that more clubs can afford to pay for the safety/security measures to be installed at their stadiums.

 

[RAMI-N]

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/feb7m.html

 

[ReBeL]

An update on the public safety status of Italian stadiums


Italian stadiums have been divided into five categories, as officials try to figure out which clubs can carry on business as usual, and which clubs need to address public safety before Serie A and Serie B action carries on this weekend.

The five categories are: adequate, almost adequate, work in progress, approved projects, and on reduced capacity. Clubs whose stadiums fall among the first three categories will be able to play on with "open" doors, whereas clubs whose stadiums fall into the latter two categories will have to play behind closed doors until public safety concerns are addressed sufficiently.

In the first three categories there are 13 stadiums where 15 Serie A teams play. For three stadiums -- located in Milan, Florence, and Livorno, there is only the matter of establishing the real stadium capacity on basis of an Italian prefect's decisions. For the clubs associated with these stadiums, it is probable they will have to restrict spectators only to certain parts of the building.

Serie A clubs with stadiums in Ascoli, Bergamo, Catania, Udine and Verona will have to be play closed-door matches due to stadium concerns.

More complex is the situation in Serie B, where only games in 15 stadiums, for now, will have to be played behind closed doors. The fans of Napoli will be particularly upset as 20,000 season ticket holders will not be able to enter the stadium until the end of the season unless special measures are taken that will allow only them to attend the team's home matches.

The Bentegodi stadium in Verona, which can hold over 42,000 fans, is among the "approved projects" for Serie A and for Serie B, as it falls into the "reduced capacity" category.

In Ascoli, meantime, there is a dialogue already begun between the club and the city council for the payment of renovating the stadium to comply with safety regulations. Unless the club management come up with some money soon, Ascoli, too, will be forced play home matches behind closed doors.



THE FOLLOWING TEAMS CAN PLAY WITH "OPEN" DOORS


"Adequate" stadiums

Serie A
Lazio
Palermo
Roma
Siena
Torino

Serie B
Bologna
Juventus

"Almost adequate" stadiums

Serie A
Cagliari
Empoli
Messina
Parma
Reggina
Sampdoria

Serie B
Bari
Genoa
Lecce
Modena

"Work in progress" stadiums

Serie A

Fiorentina
Inter
Livorno
Milan

Serie B
Spezia


THE FOLLOWING TEAMS WILL PLAY BEHIND CLOSED DOORS

"Approved projects" stadiums

Serie A

Ascoli
Atalanta
Catania
Chievo
Udinese


Serie B
AlbinoLeffe
Brescia
Napoli
Pescara
Piacenza
Triestina
Vicenza

Stadiums with "reduced capacity"

Serie B

Arezzo
Cesena
Crotone
Frosinone
Mantova
Rimini
Treviso
Verona


Goal.com

 

[Mark]

Clubs - All or nothing!
Wednesday 7 February, 2007
Presidents from Serie A and B sides have threatened to go on strike if only some stadiums are allowed to host supporters.

“There are only three options available here – we stop, everyone plays behind closed doors or everyone plays with crowds in the stands,” insisted Livorno patron Aldo Spinelli.

“There is no other solution. The Lega Calcio must come together tomorrow to decide unanimously which of the three it will choose.”

That seems increasingly unlikely, as the Government decree passed today makes it clear that only stadiums up to the Legge Pisanu standard will be allowed fans.

To date in Serie A that means the Stadio Olimpico in Turin, Siena’s Stadio Franchi, the Olimpico in Rome and Barbera in Palermo.

“I am pleasantly surprised by what this Government has done,” noted Rosanero President Maurizio Zamparini.

“I remain perplexed over the severity of closing down the stadiums, because it seems punitive for the clubs, even if some of them can be accused of serious delays in the restructuring work.”

If Serie A and B resume this weekend – as has been suggested by FIGC Commissioner Luca Pancalli – then Palermo-Empoli would be one of only a handful of games to play in front of the fans.

However, the majority of Presidents are against the harsh line taken by the Government.

“Stadiums are made for the fans and lovers of football. If they cannot participate, then we should suspend the Leagues for a year or two until the political authorities have found the right solution,” insisted Arezzo patron Piero Mancini. “Football without the fans simply isn’t football.”

There could still be a get-out clause for the smaller stadiums, as the Legge Pisanu only applied to arenas with a larger than 10,000 capacity, but it has now been reduced to 7,500.

“There is the temptation to reduce our capacity to 7,500 so that we can play, but I am seriously worried about my 5,500 season ticket holders and all the fans that have bought shares in Triestina,” said President Stefano Fantinel.

“It is a punitive decree. The Lega Calcio had given room for collaboration so that we could all come together and resolve the problem from the source. All the clubs agree we must combat delinquency, but it’s paradoxical that it means locking the majority of well-behaved supporters out too.”

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You(clubs and cities) just had to make your stadiums conform to the rules and you'd be playing in a full stadium. If you go on strike than you lose the game by default, simple as that.

 

[Seven]

Well, I don't think stopping calcio for a year is the best option to take, as the statement alone would probably cause instant riots. But if their goal really is to create stadiums that can prevent hooliganism and to take all sorts of practical measures, they would need a hell of a lot of time. Which is why I'm so far sceptical towards FIGC. I think nothing big will happen, despite their initial rage.

So there's Serie A tomorrow. :faq1:

 

[Mark]

Can't say I'm surprised.

San Siro open to season tickets
Saturday 10 February, 2007
Only Milan season ticket holders will be allowed in to San Siro for the game against Livorno after emergency changes.

The official Rossoneri website confirmed the news this evening following an inspection by the authorities.

Work carried on through the night to install 28 new turnstiles at the Stadio Giuseppe Meazza, bringing the arena closer to the Legge Pisanu recommendations, at least enough to allow in the 37,297 Rossoneri season ticket holders.

“The rest of the work will be completed within the next two weeks, so San Siro will be up to standard very soon,” added security chief Giovanni Terzi.

While all fans are not yet allowed into the venue, Milan will have their supporters in the stands for Sunday’s clash with Livorno.

“I consider it a violation of the season ticket holder’s rights to deny them access to matches they have paid for,” insisted club President Silvio Berlusconi.

A former Prime Minister, he wasted no time in attacking the current Government’s sweeping clampdown on football-related violence in the wake of Chief Inspector Filippo Raciti’s death.

“The tragic incidents in Catania happened outside the stadium, so locking out season ticket holders is not addressing the problem. As Prime Minister, I would never have passed such a law.”

The club website has urged Milan supporters to arrive at the stadium early and will only be allowed in from gates 3, 4, 15, 16, 17, 18, 21, 22, 25, 26, 37, 38, 41 and 42.

 

[ReBeL]

The only sign of tension came outside the San Paolo stadium, where Napoli were hosting Piacenza.

Several hundred of the club's hard-core ultra fans protested against the closure of the stadium which failed to meet safety regulations.

The city council said it would take two months to carry out necessary works to get the venue in line with the regulations.

Reuters

 

[AngelaL]

Trust the Milan clubs to wriggle out of the rules everyone else has to keep to.

 

[Mark]

I didn't see any news on this but it was nice to see the Juve fans in Vicenza playing football outside the stadium because they weren't allowed in the stadium. That should have been on the 1st pages of Gazzetta.....as a positive sign.

 

[Cuti]

Ultras prepare picnics
Saturday 10 February, 2007
While some stadiums will host games behind closed doors this weekend, supporters are planning anything from protests to picnics outside the gates.

The clampdown on security in the wake of the Catania rioting has seen several venues fail new laws, although San Siro has been able to negotiate an agreement to let in Milan season ticket holders only for the match against Livorno after installing 28 turnstiles.

Serie B Week 23 was played today with only five of the 11 stadiums allowing in the fans, but it proved to be far from a silent weekend.

A group of Napoli Ultras protested outside the Stadio San Paolo as their team beat Piacenza 1-0 to go top of the table.

A small number of the tifosi were accompanied into the stands by police to lay out a banner for the players that read: 'The law divides us, our grit unites us. Keep going to the bitter end lads – Curva A.’

Around 200 Juventus fans travelled to Vicenza, despite the Turin club refusing to take its allocated 1,000 away tickets. They hung up banners, chanted their support and played football among themselves while the Bianconeri drew 2-2 in the Stadio Menti.

There were similar scenes in Brescia – where fans sang, drank beer and ate pizza – and Pescara, while a group of 50 Udinese fans have announced plans to travel to Florence for tomorrow’s game and eat a picnic outside the Stadio Franchi with 1,000 Fiorentina supporters.

The Presidents made a gesture of their own in Serie B. Modena patron Alfredo Amadei sat in the stands of the Curva Montagnani, where the hardline Ultras usually reside, while his team lost 3-0 to Albinoleffe. Triestina President Stefano Fantinel did the same at the Stadio Nereo Rocco.

 

[ReBeL]

Mancini: end season now


Italian football resumed yesterday amid protests and anger, eight days after hooligans in Sicily killed a policeman in a riot outside Catania's stadium.

Four of the 10 matches were played behind closed doors because the grounds did not meet new safety rules. But the absence of fans did not affect Inter Milan, who won their 15th league game in a row, a new record, to maintain an 11-point lead at the top of Serie A. Hernan Crespo and Adriano sealed a 2-0 win at Chievo's empty ground, where disgruntled fans staged their own football match in the car park.

Roberto Mancini, Inter's coach, called for the championship to be abandoned and for his team to be crowned victors. "To play matches like this is senseless," he said. "We should finish the championship here and the top club should win, like in motor-racing. Then we can start again in September and the clubs that need to upgrade their stadiums will have time to do so." He said his players only took to the pitch to "entertain themselves and to entertain the people".

More protests occurred outside Atalanta's stadium in Bergamo, where fans held up scarves which proclaimed "Long live the Ultra"umpkin: in support of the hooligans who caused the riots in Catania. Atalanta and Lazio drew 0-0.

At the San Siro, AC Milan were allowed to let in their 37,000 season ticket holders after a frantic night installing electronic turnstiles. Milan supporters got their first sight of Ronaldo, who made his debut in the 63rd minute, wearing the 99 shirt. Marek Jankulovski and Gennaro Gattuso scored in a 2-1 win over Livorno.

At Rome's Stadio Olimpico, where Roma beat Parma 3-0, bags were checked, fireworks confiscated and all banners were inspected for inflammatory statements. Inside the stadium, the atmosphere was muted among a smaller-than-usual crowd. Some fans speculated that the violence in Sicily had deterred families from attending games with their children. In addition, the Roma ultras disrupted the minute's silence in memory of the dead policeman, Filippo Raciti, with shouts and fascist salutes:irritated . Police are considering whether to use CCTV footage to ban the hundred or so fans responsible.

Luciano Moggi, the former general manager of Juventus, in disgrace after last year's Italian match-fixing scandal, said the week's games had "penalised the fans and the clubs who are not responsible for what happens outside their grounds".

Telegraph

 

[Jem83]

OMG Mancini

He truly is retarded

 

[AngelaL]

Mancini: end season now

Italian football resumed yesterday amid protests and anger, eight days after hooligans in Sicily killed a policeman in a riot outside Catania's stadium.

Four of the 10 matches were played behind closed doors because the grounds did not meet new safety rules. But the absence of fans did not affect Inter Milan, who won their 15th league game in a row, a new record, to maintain an 11-point lead at the top of Serie A. Hernan Crespo and Adriano sealed a 2-0 win at Chievo's empty ground, where disgruntled fans staged their own football match in the car park.

Roberto Mancini, Inter's coach, called for the championship to be abandoned and for his team to be crowned victors. "To play matches like this is senseless," he said. "We should finish the championship here and the top club should win, like in motor-racing. Then we can start again in September and the clubs that need to upgrade their stadiums will have time to do so." He said his players only took to the pitch to "entertain themselves and to entertain the people".

More protests occurred outside Atalanta's stadium in Bergamo, where fans held up scarves which proclaimed "Long live the Ultra"umpkin: in support of the hooligans who caused the riots in Catania. Atalanta and Lazio drew 0-0.

At the San Siro, AC Milan were allowed to let in their 37,000 season ticket holders after a frantic night installing electronic turnstiles. Milan supporters got their first sight of Ronaldo, who made his debut in the 63rd minute, wearing the 99 shirt. Marek Jankulovski and Gennaro Gattuso scored in a 2-1 win over Livorno.

At Rome's Stadio Olimpico, where Roma beat Parma 3-0, bags were checked, fireworks confiscated and all banners were inspected for inflammatory statements. Inside the stadium, the atmosphere was muted among a smaller-than-usual crowd. Some fans speculated that the violence in Sicily had deterred families from attending games with their children. In addition, the Roma ultras disrupted the minute's silence in memory of the dead policeman, Filippo Raciti, with shouts and fascist salutes:irritated . Police are considering whether to use CCTV footage to ban the hundred or so fans responsible.

Luciano Moggi, the former general manager of Juventus, in disgrace after last year's Italian match-fixing scandal, said the week's games had "penalised the fans and the clubs who are not responsible for what happens outside their grounds".

Telegraph

Why does he want the season to end - is he paranoid that milan or roma will catch up & steal the title?

OMG Mancini

He truly is retarded

The surgeon who performed the lobotomy on mancini, must have removed his entire brain.

 

[soulslider]

http://www.fototifo.it/fototifo.php?f=57813

Vicenza-Juve

juventus fans

 

[flieeeekke]

Fliakis' weekend in Turin ruined .

bastard

 

[Seven]

I'm still convinced something will happen and Inter won't win the title.

 

[flieeeekke]

im pretty sure inter will have more scudetti than milan by 2012