So Raping Ajax would be delightful. Hutelaar and Sneijder, we've got Gygera already. 
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Van Persie is a very good striker but, like Henry, he only tends to score great goals. If Arsenal had someone like Trez who just hung around the box he would score 20-25 goals per season because Arsenal put teams under so much pressure, especially at home.
Arsenal won't finish better than 4th without a genuine goal scorer like a Trez.
Arsenal won't finish better than 4th without a genuine goal scorer like a Trez.
On what basis you are saying ManUtd fanbase is 2nd biggest in the world?
I don't how things are in UAE, but I have yet to seen a single person wearing Manchester United Shirt in the downtown of Tokyo. Because a team is popular in one part doesnt necessarily mean it is popular in the other. Though I presume ManUre is popular as hell in Korea. The methodology used by magazines to calculate fanbase is sheer back of the envelope bullshits. They are not the type of figure to put much emphasis on. Considering we hardly generates any revenue through gates, and season ticket sale, I say there are more concrete basis to suggests Juve have bigger fanbase they are not fully exploiting.
I don't care what whether you intended or not, but to suggests that Juve never spend 25m Euro on player, to emphasize the Juve can't (That is to satisfy AHMED ) can't buy expensive players, is pouring fuel into the fire. What do you expect Juve fan to take that as? Some sort of backhanded compliment? Even when, factual evidence suggests we can? There is a profound difference between not spending and can't spending. In regards to Ribery, Juve belongs to former, and Arsenal to the latter. You know why? When Juve buy expensive players, they have necessary infrastructure to make such venture into profitable one. Arsenal doesn't. That is why we spend money, and you don't. Arsenal is one their way towards establishing such status, but not there yet.
And we Juve fans have many reasons to feel bigger than ManUre. (1) More domestic trophies in a league, which have traditionally been stronger than EPL, quite significantly as well (2) Only one of two team in Europe to have won all the major European trophies, (3) 7 CL Final appearance compared to 2 of ManUre. Oh yes, to suggest we havent been more successful than ManUre on the pitch is an understatement.
I don't how things are in UAE, but I have yet to seen a single person wearing Manchester United Shirt in the downtown of Tokyo. Because a team is popular in one part doesnt necessarily mean it is popular in the other. Though I presume ManUre is popular as hell in Korea. The methodology used by magazines to calculate fanbase is sheer back of the envelope bullshits. They are not the type of figure to put much emphasis on. Considering we hardly generates any revenue through gates, and season ticket sale, I say there are more concrete basis to suggests Juve have bigger fanbase they are not fully exploiting.
I don't care what whether you intended or not, but to suggests that Juve never spend 25m Euro on player, to emphasize the Juve can't (That is to satisfy AHMED
) can't buy expensive players, is pouring fuel into the fire. What do you expect Juve fan to take that as? Some sort of backhanded compliment? Even when, factual evidence suggests we can? There is a profound difference between not spending and can't spending. In regards to Ribery, Juve belongs to former, and Arsenal to the latter. You know why? When Juve buy expensive players, they have necessary infrastructure to make such venture into profitable one. Arsenal doesn't. That is why we spend money, and you don't. Arsenal is one their way towards establishing such status, but not there yet.And we Juve fans have many reasons to feel bigger than ManUre. (1) More domestic trophies in a league, which have traditionally been stronger than EPL, quite significantly as well (2) Only one of two team in Europe to have won all the major European trophies, (3) 7 CL Final appearance compared to 2 of ManUre. Oh yes, to suggest we havent been more successful than ManUre on the pitch is an understatement.
There was a research by a hardvard dude or sumthing which said that the biggest fanbase in the world belongs to:
Copy, cut and pasted from http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21786
" Harvard: Juventus is the Third Most Popular Club
President Ramón Calderón to speak tomorrow at the prestigious American university
On October 2006, Harvard performed a study on the worldwide impact of the Real Madrid brand. It concluded that the Club had over 228 million followers in the world. Next in line were: Manchester United (168M), Juventus (140M), Bayern Munich (113M), and Barcelona (35M).
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I however feel the numbers are not accurate, just a personal feeling but I really doubt Barcelona has only 35M fans when u see B.Munchen with 113M.
The gaps seem too wide.
Copy, cut and pasted from http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21786
" Harvard: Juventus is the Third Most Popular Club
President Ramón Calderón to speak tomorrow at the prestigious American university
On October 2006, Harvard performed a study on the worldwide impact of the Real Madrid brand. It concluded that the Club had over 228 million followers in the world. Next in line were: Manchester United (168M), Juventus (140M), Bayern Munich (113M), and Barcelona (35M).
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I however feel the numbers are not accurate, just a personal feeling but I really doubt Barcelona has only 35M fans when u see B.Munchen with 113M.
The gaps seem too wide.
That is point I want to get to. When you want to carry out such research you got have clear dimension of what you want to investigate, in statistical term, population. More specifically, what is the definition of fan, what is the criteria of admitting one, and how do we measure them. If you havent got a clear idea of the object you want to measure, and all efforts to do so is going to be somewhat meaningless. Furthermore, from firm's perspective, effective measure of population is not per head, but their spending power. A guy from Milan can surely afford to spend more than a respective person at Lagos.
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