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Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
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Cohen, 35, creator of Ali G, has infuriated the Kazakhstan government with his portrayal of Borat, a bumbling Kazakh TV presenter.

And now a movie of Borat's adventures in the US has caused a diplomatic incident.

The opening scene, which shows Borat lustily kissing his sister goodbye and setting off for America in a car pulled by a horse, had audiences in stitches when it was first shown last week.

But the film, which has just premiered at the Toronto Film Festival, has prompted a swift reaction from the Kazakhstan government, which is launching a PR blitz in the States.

Kazakhstan president Nursultan Nazarbayev is to fly to the US to meet President Bush in the coming weeks and on the agenda will be his country's image.

President Nazarbayev has confirmed his government will buy "educational" TV spots and print advertisements about the "real Kazakhstan" in a bid to save the country's reputation before the film is released in the US in November.

President Nazarbayev will visit the White House and the Bush family compound in Maine when he flies in for talks that will include the fictional character Borat.

But a spokesman for the Kazakhstan Embassy says it is unlikely that President Nazarbayev will find the film funny.

Roman Vassilenko said: "The Government has expressed its displeasure about Borat's representation of our country.

"Our opinion of the character has not changed.

"We understand that the film exposes the hypocrisy that exists both here in the USA and in the UK and understand that Mr Cohen has a right to freedom of speech.

"Nursultan Nazarbayev has taken Mr Bush up on an invitation to visit this country to help build our relationship with the USA.

"I cannot speak for the president himself, only for the government, but I certainly don't think President Nazarbayev and Mr Bush will share a joke about the film.

"The bottom line is we want people to know that he does not represent the true people of Kazakhstan."

The Kazakh government has previously threatened Baron-Cohen with legal action, for allowing Borat to, among other things, make fun of his homeland, demean women, slander gypsies and urge listeners to "Throw the Jew Down the Well."

Anti-Borat hard-liners have pulled the plug on borat.kz, Borat's Kazakhstan-based Website after his frequent displays of anti-Semitism and his portrayal of Kazakh culture.

Nurlan Isin, President of the Association of Kazakh IT Companies took the action after complaints.

He said: "We've done this so he can't badmouth Kazakhstan under the .kz domain name.

"He can go and do whatever he wants at other domains."

The row originally erupted in November 2005, following Borat's hosting of the MTV Europe Music Awards in Lisbon.

The Kazakh Foreign Ministry was furious over Cohen's bad taste representation of the nation.

'No such thing as bad publicity'

Foreign Ministry spokesman Yerzhan Ashykbayev told a news conference: "We view Mr. Cohen's behaviour at the MTV Europe Music Awards as utterly unacceptable, being a concoction of bad taste and ill manners which is completely incompatible with the ethics and civilized behaviour of Kazakhstan's people.

"We reserve the right to any legal action to prevent new pranks of the kind."

Baron Cohen responded to Ashykbayev in character by posting a video on the Official Borat website.

In the video, Borat said, "In response to Mr. Ashykbayev's comments, I'd like to state I have no connection with Mr. Cohen and fully support my Government's decision to sue this Jew.

"Since the 2003 Tuleyakiv reforms, Kazakhstan is as civilized as any other country in the world.

"Women can now travel on inside of bus, homosexuals no longer have to wear blue hats, and age of consent has been raised to eight years old."

His blatant outpouring then prompted the Kazakh government to hire two public relations firms to counter the claims, and ran a four-page advertisement in The New York Times.

The ad carried testimonials about the nation's democracy, education system and the power and influence enjoyed by women. News of President Nazarbayev's upcoming visit has prompted experts to study the character's impact on US culture.

Sean R. Roberts, Central Asian Affairs Fellow at Georgetown University, has been studying the phenomenon.

He said: "I have found that more Americans are aware of Kazakhstan than four years ago when I last lived in the United States.

"The increased knowledge of Kazakhstan, however, is not due to the country's economic successes or its role as a U.S. ally in the war on terror.

"Instead, most Americans who have heard of Kazakhstan have heard of it through a satire of a Kazakh journalist named Borat.

"Borat certainly does not promote an image of Kazakhstan that is in sync with that which the government and its leader would like to promote abroad.

"As the old adage goes, however, 'there is no such thing as bad publicity.'

"If that is true, Borat is bringing much more publicity to Kazakhstan."

Cohen's representatives refused to allow him or his alter ego to respond to the controversy because it's not close enough to the film's release date.





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Slagathor

Bedpan racing champion
Jul 25, 2001
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Wait wait wait, is the Kazakhstani government so utterly convinced the average American is dumb enough to believe the movie is based on reality that they feel a PR campaign is necessary? How insulting.

Andy, I say you get over there and bomb their incest loving asses :D
 

Muha

The Head Physio
Feb 25, 2004
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the average american you are talking about doesnt even know where Kazakhstan is .. :eyebrows:.. NO OFFENCE of course
 

Bozi

The Bozman
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Oct 18, 2005
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hey the average american think that all scots are kilt wearing,haggis eating, ginger,claymore swinging nutters-well they got us pegged.

wait till george's attention swings to kazakstan and hears they have oil there he will bomb their asses back to the stone age, in their terms about 1 week i guess
 

Vinman

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Jul 16, 2002
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Muha said:
the average american you are talking about doesnt even know where Kazakhstan is .. :eyebrows:.. NO OFFENCE of course
pretty ignorant statement if you asked me....
 

C4ISR

Senior Member
Dec 18, 2005
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Any1 who is stupid enough to believe this movie is an accurate representation of Kazakhstan, shouldn't be a worry of any1 to begin with. Especially the president of Kazakhstan.
 

3pac

Alex Del Mexico
May 7, 2004
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Vinman said:
pretty ignorant statement if you asked me....

Not saying that many aren't above this, but it's surprisingly true.

In my Honors English (advanced) class the other day, no one but me had heard of Azerbaijan, let alone had a clue as to what part of the world it's in.
 

Rami

The Linuxologist
Dec 24, 2004
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Sir Sebastian said:
Not saying that many aren't above this, but it's surprisingly true.

In my Honors English (advanced) class the other day, no one but me had heard of Azerbaijan, let alone had a clue as to what part of the world it's in.
Not really a representative sample you got there sebi....
 

3pac

Alex Del Mexico
May 7, 2004
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#17
Rami said:
Not really a representative sample you got there sebi....

It's not a representative example of the nation, but given that my school district is ranked #2 in the state of california, and this is one of it's top classes, I still think that shows something....
 

Rami

The Linuxologist
Dec 24, 2004
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Sir Sebastian said:
It's not a representative example of the nation, but given that my school district is ranked #2 in the state of california, and this is one of it's top classes, I still think that shows something....
It just shows that a bunch of rich kids don't know where is Khazikhstan..
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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Vinman said:
pretty ignorant statement if you asked me....
And why would that be? There have been lots of serious and less serious reports about how most people in the US had no clue where Iraq in spite of the heavy focus on Iraq. Frankly why would they know of Kazakhstan? I'm sure most people here don't know it, why would they? It's not like geography classes aim to educate people about every country on earth, mine certainly didn't. In junior high I was one of the few to know all European states, and that's just on my continent.

This whole "people don't know where X is" is so overblown. It's a fact of life and frankly not one we should be concerned about. Most people don't know polynomial division either, and yet the world continues to function. Iraq is different, just like Vietnam in the 70s, you should know what and where it is before you discuss it. But Muha's comment about Kazakhstan is neither controversial nor important (sorry, Muha :D).

Frankly, I probably wouldn't have known about Kazakhstan 5 years ago if it wasn't because they had a great skier (Vladimir Smirnov) who was really popular in Norway as he always competed with our best skiers.
 

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