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I suggest you don't personally attached yourself to discourse, or elevate your rhetoric above the level you to which you are attaching yourself.
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All of that is incredibly important stuff.
If that's petty nationalism, then anybody who isn't a petty nationalist is an absolute 'tard.
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That's not Scotland's problem, nor is it my problem, or the problem of anybody else here for that matter since we all have computers and have access to the internet (which usually costs money, ipso facto you must have basic human rights). Civil liberties arrive from independence and the creation of a bill of rights by the people and for the people. Last time I checked, the wants and desires of other parts of the UK are not necessarily those of the folks in Scotland. If this is the case, what is the logical reasoning to be against Red's argument?
Those that unfortunately do not have basic human rights will not be helped by anybody but themselves. There is no free lunch in economics, and there is no evidence in history that globalism leads to some moronic paradise. It will only compound suffering from bloated bureaucracies and oppression of anybody other than the elite class.
If you're alive and a member of the human race then inequalities are your responsibility, regardless of you accepting it.
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Well we've had representative democracy for a pretty fucking long time. Don't make this out to be something it's not, this is purely politicised selfishness, xenophobia and nationalism. If the debate were purely economic reports then it would be a great debate, but it's an emotional debate being run by nationalists (on both sides) and it's getting emotional responses. The world needs few abstract borders that help a politician's ego than more.
All both campaigns have done is convince me that Scotland should go alone because those leading the campaign are a hateful lot.
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Also, if you think I'm the only one saying this - everyone I know couldn't care less what scotland does and thinks the campaigns are appalling. The only groups that care are the proletariat being led by politicians and the press through blind nationalistic pride.
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All of that is incredibly important stuff.
If that's petty nationalism, then anybody who isn't a petty nationalist is an absolute 'tard.
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That's not Scotland's problem, nor is it my problem, or the problem of anybody else here for that matter since we all have computers and have access to the internet (which usually costs money, ipso facto you must have basic human rights). Civil liberties arrive from independence and the creation of a bill of rights by the people and for the people. Last time I checked, the wants and desires of other parts of the UK are not necessarily those of the folks in Scotland. If this is the case, what is the logical reasoning to be against Red's argument?
Those that unfortunately do not have basic human rights will not be helped by anybody but themselves. There is no free lunch in economics, and there is no evidence in history that globalism leads to some moronic paradise. It will only compound suffering from bloated bureaucracies and oppression of anybody other than the elite class.
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I love you 
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And to all that say that this is not important. This is one of the few times that the people can make themselves heard through referendum in the UK. Having direct democracy instead of a representative democracy is a feking huge deal.
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And to all that say that this is not important. This is one of the few times that the people can make themselves heard through referendum in the UK. Having direct democracy instead of a representative democracy is a feking huge deal.
All both campaigns have done is convince me that Scotland should go alone because those leading the campaign are a hateful lot.
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Also, if you think I'm the only one saying this - everyone I know couldn't care less what scotland does and thinks the campaigns are appalling. The only groups that care are the proletariat being led by politicians and the press through blind nationalistic pride.
such knowledge. not the least important 
nato, eu, currency-question, how it will affect similar movements in other european countries, how depth and wealth (resources) are handled, what it'll do to "england's" relationship with EU ('still an empire'-thinking).
so many fancy words from ford emo, yet such lack of substance.
nato, eu, currency-question, how it will affect similar movements in other european countries, how depth and wealth (resources) are handled, what it'll do to "england's" relationship with EU ('still an empire'-thinking).
so many fancy words from ford emo, yet such lack of substance.
Yes.
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How foolish of me to think you were addressing me when you said 'you' when talking to me.
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Stop being so hate-filled and nationalistic.
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How foolish of me to think you were addressing me when you said 'you' when talking to me.
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such knowledge. not the least important
nato, eu, currency-question, how it will affect similar movements in other european countries, how depth and wealth (resources) are handled, what it'll do to "england's" relationship with EU ('still an empire'-thinking).
so many fancy words from ford emo, yet such lack of substance.
nato, eu, currency-question, how it will affect similar movements in other european countries, how depth and wealth (resources) are handled, what it'll do to "england's" relationship with EU ('still an empire'-thinking).
so many fancy words from ford emo, yet such lack of substance.
The one occurance of 'you' in anything I said to you was in the context of a collective noun for the Scottish franchise. Pretty pedantic to take offence to that.
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Everything you just listed is the debate to be had if they gain independence, everything I have said is the debate about whether or not they should be independent. Different things entirely.
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such knowledge. not the least important
nato, eu, currency-question, how it will affect similar movements in other european countries, how depth and wealth (resources) are handled, what it'll do to "england's" relationship with EU ('still an empire'-thinking).
so many fancy words from ford emo, yet such lack of substance.
nato, eu, currency-question, how it will affect similar movements in other european countries, how depth and wealth (resources) are handled, what it'll do to "england's" relationship with EU ('still an empire'-thinking).
so many fancy words from ford emo, yet such lack of substance.
