UEFA Coefficient (4 Viewers)
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True, but mine was more uplifting 
Things have to change. Smaller teams can't be given the impression that there is no hope for them. They can't be ok with the fact that they are perceived or have resigned themselves to the thought of being a "Feeder" team to the bigger clubs. larger teams can't spend money as soon as they get it under the premise that it will always be there. There must be more home grown talent on all clubs, even if that home grown talent is not of Italian blood.
All things Juve are doing, the home grown bit will take time.
I love serie A too, and im very excited about the next 2-3 years because Juve is about to re-ivent italian football, this time we are the saviours, i'm not being big headed but we heralding in a new age, next mercato we will probably see a good player and a marqee name but also youngster like marrone and daud, ariaudo being brought up properly and supplemented with great youth from around the world a la Yago/Ekdal and that new buffon guy.
Things are changing, not quick enough for the good of the whole, but at just the right pace for Juve, as originators we will be able to have a monopoly on the new serie A and Europe for decades to come.
I predict that in 10-15 years Juve will be at least top 3 in every respect , revenue, fans,success etc.
Serie A will do well this year, better than last year, but we are moving forward quicker than the rest of the league.
I love serie A too, and im very excited about the next 2-3 years because Juve is about to re-ivent italian football, this time we are the saviours, i'm not being big headed but we heralding in a new age, next mercato we will probably see a good player and a marqee name but also youngster like marrone and daud, ariaudo being brought up properly and supplemented with great youth from around the world a la Yago/Ekdal and that new buffon guy.
Things are changing, not quick enough for the good of the whole, but at just the right pace for Juve, as originators we will be able to have a monopoly on the new serie A and Europe for decades to come.
I predict that in 10-15 years Juve will be at least top 3 in every respect , revenue, fans,success etc.
Serie A will do well this year, better than last year, but we are moving forward quicker than the rest of the league.
I'm not worried about Juventus and how they are handling things. Essentially being the flag bearers for the way a club can be run responsibly, consitently, and more important than that, successfully and profitable.
that was never my concern.
My concern is that this should have happened league wide, ages ago, and now that the league could be on the precipice of a disaster, does the the federation now react accordingly.
I guess its just frustration on my part at the absolute stubborness of some of these teams in the league at their appaling lack of self preservation.
that was never my concern.
My concern is that this should have happened league wide, ages ago, and now that the league could be on the precipice of a disaster, does the the federation now react accordingly.
I guess its just frustration on my part at the absolute stubborness of some of these teams in the league at their appaling lack of self preservation.
The big leagues tend to need a kick in the backside to make changes.
English football was, by all accounts, going the same way as Italian football is just now in the mid to late eighties. However, Heysel (and the subsequent European ban) and Hillsborough (and the Taylor Report which followed) resulted in English football being cleaned up.
Stadiums were improved, so crowds went up, so clubs got more money, so the football became more attractive. Then SKY was attracted to it and we see how things are today.
Calciopoli was enough for Juve to get things sorted and hopefully the rest of the league will follow our example.
English football was, by all accounts, going the same way as Italian football is just now in the mid to late eighties. However, Heysel (and the subsequent European ban) and Hillsborough (and the Taylor Report which followed) resulted in English football being cleaned up.
Stadiums were improved, so crowds went up, so clubs got more money, so the football became more attractive. Then SKY was attracted to it and we see how things are today.
Calciopoli was enough for Juve to get things sorted and hopefully the rest of the league will follow our example.
In the event we do finish 4th, would it not be nice to still be able to compete in the CL?
Also, "the good of serie a" arguement definitely applies whether you like it or not. A stronger league (one that does well in Europe) attracts more viewers, which in turn brings in more money from sponsors, broadcasters, etc. That money lines the pocket of our club as well.
Losing a CL space does no good for the overall health of the league, which is important for the reason I stated above. The 3 teams who do qualify would receive more "market pool" money from UEFA, but that will result in the gap between Juve and the competition becoming even bigger. A competitive league also attracts more ppl, and therefore more money.
Also, "the good of serie a" arguement definitely applies whether you like it or not. A stronger league (one that does well in Europe) attracts more viewers, which in turn brings in more money from sponsors, broadcasters, etc. That money lines the pocket of our club as well.
Losing a CL space does no good for the overall health of the league, which is important for the reason I stated above. The 3 teams who do qualify would receive more "market pool" money from UEFA, but that will result in the gap between Juve and the competition becoming even bigger. A competitive league also attracts more ppl, and therefore more money.
Its the f--king Uefa Cup what is ruining everything here. Spain only have 2 clubs who do well in CL (play regularly in CL), but Sevilla winning back to back Uefa cups surely helped to boost the ratings.
Now Germany is on Italy`s tale again with Uefa cup success, German clubs havent done sh-t in CL for years.
Uefa should give less rating points for Uefa cup success.
Now Germany is on Italy`s tale again with Uefa cup success, German clubs havent done sh-t in CL for years.
Uefa should give less rating points for Uefa cup success.
I understand your concerns, I thought like this too couple of years ago, in the end we both agree that Serie A teams shouldn't be this dependent of UEFA's money to make success.
I believe Italian football is in rise, put Roma and Milan aside, all the teams started to improve. Fiorentina, Napoli, Palermo, Genoa and Lazio. They are improving step by step, from these teams only Fiorentina got the benefit of CL's money. The rest are spending very wisely. And It's the federation and the government need to react if they want to improve this league, like the TV deals you mentioned, and most importantly reducing the ridiculous wage's taxes. Then the owners and directors should start investing wisely and bringing the right coaches and have some patience with them. This is how Serie A will rise, I adore what Genoa and Napoli are doing, specially Genoa. They made a super team after selling two key players, and also Napoli, very good directing by the owners, they kept saying that they are not aiming for Champions league football so soon, step by step, they want to play there when they are ready. Unlike the stupid ex Parma and Lazio and even Roma's way, to get as much as debt possible and live the success for a short moment, then going back to zero. Serie A is still paying for that. But this year and the previous, I believe Serie A started to rise again, and has a bright future.
The competition is Serie A is much better than Spain, Spain don't have teams like Milan, Roma, Lazio, Genoa, Fiorentina other than the two title contenders (Juve and Inter comparing with Barcelona and Inter).. The quality and the competition is much better in Serie A. And if they keep on spending wisely, they don't UEFA's money to stay like that.
I believe Italian football is in rise, put Roma and Milan aside, all the teams started to improve. Fiorentina, Napoli, Palermo, Genoa and Lazio. They are improving step by step, from these teams only Fiorentina got the benefit of CL's money. The rest are spending very wisely. And It's the federation and the government need to react if they want to improve this league, like the TV deals you mentioned, and most importantly reducing the ridiculous wage's taxes. Then the owners and directors should start investing wisely and bringing the right coaches and have some patience with them. This is how Serie A will rise, I adore what Genoa and Napoli are doing, specially Genoa. They made a super team after selling two key players, and also Napoli, very good directing by the owners, they kept saying that they are not aiming for Champions league football so soon, step by step, they want to play there when they are ready. Unlike the stupid ex Parma and Lazio and even Roma's way, to get as much as debt possible and live the success for a short moment, then going back to zero. Serie A is still paying for that. But this year and the previous, I believe Serie A started to rise again, and has a bright future.
The competition is Serie A is much better than Spain, Spain don't have teams like Milan, Roma, Lazio, Genoa, Fiorentina other than the two title contenders (Juve and Inter comparing with Barcelona and Inter).. The quality and the competition is much better in Serie A. And if they keep on spending wisely, they don't UEFA's money to stay like that.
