[Trofeo F*CK that Berlusconi MOFO]Milan - Juventus (August 17th, 2008) (3 Viewers)

[pavelnel]

What the hell is wrong with that fucking trophy If i have the power i would never again allow Juve to participate in this cursed ridiculous contest.

 

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

All your fail our belong to us?

all that Molinaro brings to our team is some speed, numbers, and a shit load of FAIL!

 

[cyril]

I thought molinaro outplayed grygera today, now grygera has been shit for awhile as well, lets channel our hatred on him. He got owned by jankolovski seedorf and inzaghi on more than one occasion.

 

[Cronios]

I am back from my holidays and i am glad to see that the Chimenti-Molinaro partnership is still on form...
4?? What happened, Milan were hopeless last time i checked...

 

[Stephan]

I am back from my holidays and i am glad that the Chimenti-Molinaro partnership is still on form...
4?? What happened, Milan were hopeless last time i checked...

this:

 

[cimenk]

I thought molinaro outplayed grygera today, now grygera has been shit for awhile as well, lets channel our hatred on him. He go owned by jankolovski seedorf and inzaghi on more than one occasion.

This is what i said
I saw our defence is weak on the wing side last year with Grygera/Zebina and Molinaro (against Fiorentina, Lazio, etc)
But on the left there will be De Ceglie
And on the right??

It's my biggest nightmare when woke up this morning
Chiellini is injured on his knee
How long it will be?
I pray that the injured in knee won't be serious like Andrade
because according to my friend who is a doctor
usually football player who get injured in his knee can't get back to his perform before he's injured
example: DP, Ronaldo, Andrade, Lentini

Why CR must playing Chiellini on Berlusconi Cup
We always injured our key players there

 

[cyril]

This is what i said
I saw our defence is weak on the wing side last year with Grygera/Zebina and Molinaro (against Fiorentina, Lazio, etc)
But on the left there will be De Ceglie
And on the right??

It's my biggest nightmare when woke up this morning
Chiellini is injured on his knee
How long it will be?
I pray that the injured in knee won't be serious like Andrade
because according to my friend who is a doctor
usually football player who get injured in his knee can't get back to his perform before he's injured
example: DP, Ronaldo, Andrade, Lentini

Why CR must playing Chiellini on Berlusconi Cup
We always injured our key players there

Generalization, this is not true many soccer player have had severe injuries on their knees and got back to their previous form. Let's not be pessimistic here, first reports suggest chiellinis injury isn't that serious. So let's just stick with that and not get too carried away.

 

[dao_nq]

WTF !!! I didn't watch this match. Speedy recovery Chiellini.

 

[Bjerknes]

I thought molinaro outplayed grygera today, now grygera has been shit for awhile as well, lets channel our hatred on him. He got owned by jankolovski seedorf and inzaghi on more than one occasion.

Grygera is still a better player than Molinaro though. I just don't know why Grygera cannot show some of the same form he does with the Czech Republic. It's like you're watching two different players.

 

[swag]

Grygera is still a better player than Molinaro though. I just don't know why Grygera cannot show some of the same form he does with the Czech Republic. It's like you're watching two different players.

Both blow and show up for one match a season, though.

 

[cyril]

Grygera is still a better player than Molinaro though. I just don't know why Grygera cannot show some of the same form he does with the Czech Republic. It's like you're watching two different players.

Yeah he is better than molinaro, he can at least cross the ball. But Defensively he's being tortured, I didn't get the chance to see his overall performances at the euros, but judging from his juve performances he's VERY average and an on form zebina is by far a better option.

 

[cimenk]

Oh, and I forgot to add: Grygera SUCKS big time!!! But that's nothing new to me, I was just wondering why the hell some members started to sing his praises after a few solid matches last season and some solid matches for Czechs on the EURO 2008 after he was dreadful for most of the last season.

Agreed...
That's why i want a new RB at Juve
I saw Grygera not playing well too against Turkey that caused Czech not qualify to QF
The first goal came from Arda Turan which opposite in Grygera position
Second Goal by Nihat is not his fault but the third goal is also his lack coordination with Ujfalusi to make offside trap then Czech lost 2-3

And remember our game against Inter which our offside trap beaten by Cruz because of Grygera

 

[cyril]

Agreed...
That's why i want a new RB at Juve
I saw Grygera not playing well too against Turkey that caused Czech not qualify to QF
The first goal came from Arda Turan which opposite in Grygera position
Second Goal by Nihat is not his fault but the third goal is also his lack coordination with Ujfalusi to make offside trap then Czech lost 2-3

And remember our game against Inter which our offside trap beaten by Cruz because of Grygera

I got to see that game and it was jankolvski fault not grygeras, and then we all know from whom the ball slipped.

 

[cimenk]

Not only because of this game, base on Ranieri last decade! in Valencia, In Chelsea, In Parma and now in Juve!

and base on my feeling after watching football for many many years.. He is not a winner! You obviously feel it...It is always like this: Very good performance but not enough for winning something..!

He lack enthusiasm, he is so cold-blood, you know, he is o.k. with just good performance. You will see it on his interview after the game.

with him there is no time for reaching a goal, just in progress!

Juventus shouldn't defeated with 4 goals even in friendly games... especialy against Milan without Kaka, Ronaldinho, Pato, Nesta and Maldini.

Yeah.. CR is not a winner
he also can't tell the management the player he is needed to his tactic
Just like last season case
Can you count who is the player we get from transfer window and become our starting eleven?
Only Grygera and Molinaro who is the worst in our starting eleven...
And then come Sissoko to become his best transfer in mid season...
So logically we didn't make our squad better last season from what we spent
At first he wants Almiron and Tiago so we can play long passing and now CR realize to have more battle side in CM...CR doesn't have a character to choose what systems he wants to play

As you can see in Chelsea he bought Crespo, Veron, Parker, Bridge, Glenn Johnson when Abramovich first come and now the all players he bought is not a WC players and no one become Chelsea important players
In Valencia too, he bought Corradi, Fiore, Di Vaio, Moretti...and you can saw the first three mentioned is totally failed

It's different from Capello or Lippi who always know which kind of players he wants to play and buy...
Capello request for Ibra since he is in Roma, then Emerson, Vieira, and made Trez stay on the club when Trez almost sold to Barca, also Canna who Capello is liked
Lippi too, he knows to buy Thuram, Nedved, and Buffon when he sold Pippo, Zidane, and Van Der Saar

Deschamps certainly better than CR...He played Marchisio, Giovinco, De Ceglie, Vennitucci when we played in Serie B... He found our star in primavera

 

[Amaurisimo]

what i said long before was that Grygera was not good enough together with Moli..And i would change them both. However some of you mentioned Euro so i kept it low.
Hopefully our board will see those wholes at back and try to fix them asap and get us wc LB/RB.

I say bring in Ivanovic to step instead of Chiellini and Grygera later. Use Zebina for the time being.

re game
We all wanted to win, DP also said he wanted to win so why not field better players and yes i agree timing of this mini tournament was inappropriate for us.

It always easier to talk about game and blame tactics, chosen players etc. However game was not as important as an against artmedia so players did loose some concentration and their will to do better, unfortunately.
Dont blame sucko and ruineri for every mistake player makes or make incorrect quote. Its so cheap and so old story. In their defense i could say that we had perfectly disallowed goal and penalty ruled out. What would happen if we actually won?

I bet everyone will be more happy after Amauri start to scores and when right results start coming together with positive news from Chiellini.

Lets take all negatives from the game, and see how to make it work for us...

 

[Amaurisimo]

Yeah.. CR is not a winner
he also can't tell the management the player he is needed to his tactic
Just like last season case
Can you count who is the player we get from transfer window and become our starting eleven?
Only Grygera and Molinaro who is the worst in our starting eleven...
And then come Sissoko to become his best transfer in mid season...
So logically we didn't make our squad better last season from what we spent
At first he wants Almiron and Tiago so we can play long passing and now CR realize to have more battle side in CM...CR doesn't have a character to choose what systems he wants to play

As you can see in Chelsea he bought Crespo, Veron, Parker, Bridge, Glenn Johnson when Abramovich first come and now the all players he bought is not a WC players and no one become Chelsea important players
In Valencia too, he bought Corradi, Fiore, Di Vaio, Moretti...and you can saw the first three mentioned is totally failed

It's different from Capello or Lippi who always know which kind of players he wants to play and buy...
Capello request for Ibra since he is in Roma, then Emerson, Vieira, and made Trez stay on the club when Trez almost sold to Barca, also Canna who Capello is liked
Lippi too, he knows to buy Thuram, Nedved, and Buffon when he sold Pippo, Zidane, and Van Der Saar

Deschamps certainly better than CR...He played Marchisio, Giovinco, De Ceglie, Vennitucci when we played in Serie B... He found our star in primavera

you and arse -juventino are such a loosers..
I bet when you wake up and look yourself in mirrors you also hate yourselfs..

 

[cyril]

you and arse -juventino ess are such a loosers..
I bet when you wake up and look yourself in mirrors you also hate yourselfs..

I was about to say something similar, what he said is simply ridiculous.

 

[Christina]

Yeah.. CR is not a winner
he also can't tell the management the player he is needed to his tactic
Just like last season case
Can you count who is the player we get from transfer window and become our starting eleven?
Only Grygera and Molinaro who is the worst in our starting eleven...
And then come Sissoko to become his best transfer in mid season...
So logically we didn't make our squad better last season from what we spent
At first he wants Almiron and Tiago so we can play long passing and now CR realize to have more battle side in CM...CR doesn't have a character to choose what systems he wants to play

As you can see in Chelsea he bought Crespo, Veron, Parker, Bridge, Glenn Johnson when Abramovich first come and now the all players he bought is not a WC players and no one become Chelsea important players
In Valencia too, he bought Corradi, Fiore, Di Vaio, Moretti...and you can saw the first three mentioned is totally failed

It's different from Capello or Lippi who always know which kind of players he wants to play and buy...
Capello request for Ibra since he is in Roma, then Emerson, Vieira, and made Trez stay on the club when Trez almost sold to Barca, also Canna who Capello is liked
Lippi too, he knows to buy Thuram, Nedved, and Buffon when he sold Pippo, Zidane, and Van Der Saar

Deschamps certainly better than CR...He played Marchisio, Giovinco, De Ceglie, Vennitucci when we played in Serie B... He found our star in primavera

1. We do not have money like we did before, stop dreaming.

2. Ranieri has played Rossi, Ekdal, Pasquato, and Esposito (I think). He would play those others if they were available, but they weren't. Plus, Serie B gave them a chance to shine and be noticed. If you want such top players, why are you complaining that we don't have any youngsters?

 

[ZAF3000]

I went to the stadium for this match. I hoped for a better result, but well, what happenned has happenned. All in all, it was a nice experience. It was the first time in my life to attend a match for Juventus. I'll upload the videos and pictures later on (I already uploaded del piero's free kick).

Our team did not perform well, we did not come to life until our youngsters came on the field, mainly, Rossi WHO SHOULD NOT BE SOLD AT ANY COST. This kid is gold. He was confident and made use of every second he has played. Mind you he is still 18. He plays in a position in which we are being deficient on, LM. Nedved was off form today and I Ranieri's shoes I would have taken out Nedved an Tiago in the break and brought in Ekdal and Rossi.
In the first half and most of the second half our midfield was abscent. Sissoko was trying hard but was playing alone. Nedved, Tiago and Poulsen were not up for the job. The defence looked a bit shaky especially after Chiellini's injury.

Chiemnti should not play for us anymore. He is just simply not good enough for a team like Siena let alone Juventus.

Del Piero had a decent 1st half and Amauri tried and scored a legit goal that was disallowed wrongly.

 

[ZAF3000]

BTW, was Ekdal chance a PK?