[Trofeo F*CK that Berlusconi MOFO]Milan - Juventus (August 17th, 2008) (14 Viewers)

[cyril]

I went to the stadium for this match. I hoped for a better result, but well, what happenned has happenned. All in all, it was a nice experience. It was the first time in my life to attend a match for Juventus. I'll upload the videos and pictures later on (I already uploaded del piero's free kick).

Our team did not perform well, we did not come to life until our youngsters came on the field, mainly, Rossi WHO SHOULD NOT BE SOLD AT ANY COST. This kid is gold. He was confident and made use of every second he has played. Mind you he is still 18. He plays in a position in which we are being deficient on, LM. Nedved was off form today and I Ranieri's shoes I would have taken out Nedved an Tiago in the break and brought in Ekdal and Rossi.
In the first half and most of the second half our midfield was abscent. Sissoko was trying hard but was playing alone. Nedved, Tiago and Poulsen were not up for the job. The defence looked a bit shaky especially after Chiellini's injury.

Chiemnti should not play for us anymore. He is just simply not good enough for a team like Siena let alone Juventus.

Del Piero had a decent 1st half and Amauri tried and scored a legit goal that was disallowed wrongly.

One question man, why tiago?

 

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[cyril]

BTW, was Ekdal chance a PK?

From the replays Ive seen it wasn't he pulled a cr7.

 

[Amaurisimo]

I bet it was great experience for you at the stadium.
Wish you many more games to see and thanks for pics/videos in advance..

 

[Bjerknes]

you and arse -juventino are such a loosers..
I bet when you wake up and look yourself in mirrors you also hate yourselfs..

I don't know what is so wrong about his post... Ranieri did buy those players and look at them now. They're nowhere.

And yes, Deschamps is a better manager than Ranieri.

 

[cyril]

I don't know what is so wrong about his post... Ranieri did buy those players and look at them now. They're nowhere.

And yes, Deschamps is a better manager than Ranieri.

Deschamps wanted boomsong tiago and who knows whom. Look at those players today. He also coached us when we were in serie B with nothing else to play for. He had to give our youth some playing time, and its not like ranieri doesnt nurture our primavera players. Deschamp has one advantage over ranieri and it's age , he might achieve more in his career but till now he hasn't, unless you consider our promotion a success or his CL final appearance.

 

[Amaurisimo]

It is not only about what and how wrote but also what they did not write in that case as well as timing.
Now it is a time that we all get behind what and who we have and give all our support. We dont need any negative not helpful comments which can just bring more disarray among supporters.
Should I blame CR for not signing Grosso, or Ivanovic, VDV, Diego, when i even dont know who is real target, or for "faliure" to sign Alonso???
Did you hear me blaming Tiago for yesterdays results.. More less everyone was one gear lower except youngsters. Should i kill our 3rd goalkeeper for taking an early nap last night?
Is that reason to blame CR or Sucko?
Few days ago i noticed first positive post from u for a long while and i was happy..

Make me happy again. Next week i hope...

 

[Bjerknes]

Deschamps wanted boomsong tiago and who knows whom. Look at those players today. He also coached us when we were in serie B with nothing else to play for. He had to give our youth some playing time, and its not like ranieri doesnt nurture our primavera players. Deschamp has one advantage over ranieri and it's age , he might achieve more in his career but till now he hasn't, unless you consider our promotion a success or his CL final appearance.

Didier didn't necessarily want Tiago, that's unclear. We got Boumsong because after we were relegated nobody else wanted to join us, so we went with the Frenchman. Bad choice or not, well, it wasn't that big a deal. But Deschamps was the one who started playing Chiellini at centerback and discovered Giovinco, and that has been pretty crucial towards our future.

 

[Bjerknes]

It is not only about what and how wrote but also what they did not write in that case as well as timing.
Now it is a time that we all get behind what and who we have and give all our support. We dont need any negative not helpful comments which can just bring more disarray among supporters.
Should I blame CR for not signing Grosso, or Ivanovic, VDV, Diego, when i even dont know who is real target, or for "faliure" to sign Alonso???
Did you hear me blaming Tiago for yesterdays results.. More less everyone was one gear lower except youngsters. Should i kill our 3rd goalkeeper for taking an early nap last night?
Is that reason to blame CR or Sucko?
Few days ago i noticed first positive post from u for a long while and i was happy..

Make me happy again. Next week i hope...

Supporting a team is not always about nodding your own head up and down to what the club is doing. That's like saying, "go ahead, daddy, blow my brains out. I support you so you can kill me."

 

[cyril]

Didier didn't necessarily want Tiago, that's unclear. We got Boumsong because after we were relegated nobody else wanted to join us, so we went with the Frenchman. Bad choice or not, well, it wasn't that big a deal. But Deschamps was the one who started playing Chiellini at centerback and discovered Giovinco, and that has been pretty crucial towards our future.

Sooner or later Giovinco was going to be discovered, any coach with reasonable soccer knowledge would have been impressed by him.

 

[Bjerknes]

Sooner or later Giovinco was going to be discovered, any coach with reasonable soccer knowledge would have been impressed by him.

Maybe, but Deschamps decided to call him up and field him later on in the season, thus alerting everybody to the player. Not sure where Giovinco would be right now if that hadn't happened.

 

[Amaurisimo]

Didier did not want Tiago either..It was board who decided for him
Also Andy im sure you should know that playing in seria b is not as A..
Juve could walk in it with players they already have, so dont credit Didier much for that..
You could also say that CR took team from C to B and to seria A in 2 years which is much bigger success not that is such a great thing considering that we are Juve and that we need well proven and WC coaches..

 

[Amaurisimo]

Supporting a team is not always about nodding your own head up and down to what the club is doing. That's like saying, "go ahead, daddy, blow my brains out. I support you so you can kill me."

well i knew that you will write something like this, but that is not what i said..
You as an more than average intelligent american should know meaning of my " negative not helpful comment " means.

 

[Bjerknes]

D
You could also say that CR took team from C to B and to seria A in 2 years which is much bigger success not that is such a great thing considering that we are Juve and that we need well proven and WC coaches..

You said it right here. But is Ranieri a WC coach? I know what you think already and you're probably the only person in the world that has that opinion.

 

[cyril]

Didier did not want Tiago either..It was board who decided for him

Also Andy im sure you should know that playing in seria b is not as A..
Juve could walk in it with players they already have, so dont credit Didier much for that..
You could also say that CR took team from C to B and to seria A in 2 years which is much bigger success not that is such a great thing considering that we are Juve and that we need well proven and WC coaches..

Bullshit, it was either ranieri or deschamps who wanted tiago. Why would the board even consider buying players that the coach wont field, its just irrational another conspiracy involving our board. The "sucko" epidemic.

 

[Amaurisimo]

Maybe, but Deschamps decided to call him up and field him later on in the season, thus alerting everybody to the player. Not sure where Giovinco would be right now if that hadn't happened.

yes, lets praise Deschamps for Giovico now

:melayyanandmessi:

 

[Bjerknes]

well i knew that you will write something like this, but that is not what i said..
You as an more than average intelligent american should know meaning of my " negative not helpful comment " means.

Yet most of the criticisms that people such as myself bring to the table are not taken seriously because they're too "negative" deemed by some people. One has to be objective when discussing their side. If not, and all negative stuff is prohibited, then there is no point to this forum.

 

[Amaurisimo]

Bullshit, it was either ranieri or deschamps who wanted tiago. Why would the board even consider buying players that the coach wont field, its just irrational another conspiracy involving our board. The "sucko" epidemic.

Didier said by himself in one interview in january, that board wanted to buy Tiago, and that he was against it..
Also CR said " he was thrown into it" after they failed to buy Sissoko at start of season..So it was Sucko actually...

 

[cyril]

Didier said by himself in one interview in january, that board wanted to buy Tiago, and that he was against it..
Also CR said " he was thrown into it" after they failed to buy Sissoko at start of season..So it was Sucko actually...

So your "sucko" is secretly coaching our team?

 

[Bjerknes]

Bullshit, it was either ranieri or deschamps who wanted tiago. Why would the board even consider buying players that the coach wont field, its just irrational another conspiracy involving our board. The "sucko" epidemic.

I don't know. But Ranieri came out to say that they were forced into buying Tiago because Sissoko was too much. This leads me to believe that it was the current people who decided to bring Tiago.

And actually no, it was not Deschamps who wanted Tiago because he left due to the board not respecting his opinions on matters, including transfers.

yes, lets praise Deschamps for Giovico now

:melayyanandmessi:

He's the one who first fielded him...

 

[Amaurisimo]

Yet most of the criticisms that people such as myself bring to the table are not taken seriously because they're too "negative" deemed by some people. One has to be objective when discussing their side. If not, and all negative stuff is prohibited, then there is no point to this forum.

good post, and i agree with you here..
I want us to be objective and if you remember we started with writing about CR and not about game..
It not time to write about CR's past when we have few weeks only to fix or back problems. As i said, it is time to get more positive and to get behind our team.
I also said lets hope out BOD's will see those wholes and those 30 mil or so wisely invest to cover them up..

If they dont do something about it , and bad results start to pile, we all know what will happen dont we?