Trofeo Birra Moretti 2007 (8 Viewers)

[Seven]

Fucking moron.

 

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[Dominic]

Zero Scudetti according to my calculations.

A matter of perspective, let's not go down that road.

Dude , juve under capello did win , but at what cost . If i didn't have never ending love for juve , i would have fallen asleep in every single game of the season .
I respect capello for having a very rare winning mentality , but his tactics are very old-fashioned and that kind of style would consistently get juve out of the champions league year after year .

The highlighted part, was exactly my point.

 

[Seven]

No they don't, they pretend they were of the opinion from the beginning.

I remember when a select few of us were anti-Capello. After he left basically everyone was.

TBH pretty much everyone was pro-Capello and pro-Zlatan. I have always disliked their complete lack of class, but I don't recall many others agreeing with me.

 

[Stu]

because our titles were deemed as clean so as far as im concerned its still 29. unless u think that its ok to come 3rd and rob tittles

Pretty sure the court said we cheated. I'll take their view on the matter over that of a fanboy.

 

[rounder]

We have 27 in actual fact.

Why can't people accept that we cheated?

you're right we do have 27 ..

But we did win 29 titles on the pitch with hardwork and sweat .. facts or figures can never take that away from the fans.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Pretty sure the court said we cheated. I'll take their view on the matter over that of a fanboy.

no 1 was deemed as clean the other as suspicious but not proven unclean. and what is a few matches that were accused of match fixing in relations to a undefeated 2 years and 2 tittles with it

 

[Stu]

TBH pretty much everyone was pro-Capello and pro-Zlatan. I have always disliked their complete lack of class, but I don't recall many others agreeing with me.

I did

you're right we do have 27 ..

But we didn 29 titles on the pitch with hardwork and sweat .. facts or figures can never take that away from the fans.

Now this I can agree with but at the end of the day it doesn't matter how Juve fans feel, Capello won nothing here.

 

[Stu]

no 1 was deemed as clean the other as suspicious but not proven unclean. and what is a few matches that were accused of match fixing in relations to a undefeated 2 years and 2 tittles with it

Which one was deemed clean? 05/06?

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Which one was deemed clean? 05/06?

yup

 

[TERENCEE]

We have 27 in actual fact.

Why can't people accept that we cheated?

so you really believed we actually cheated for the last 2 scudetti? the last 2 scudetti was faught, sweat in the pitch.. and credit goes to our players.. if you call yourself a juventini.. i'm disappointed by your comments... all in all, i still never accept the that juventus cheated for the last 2 scudetti.. and there's no evidence that we cheated..

 

[Stu]

yup

Yeah well I'm pretty sure Moggi and co did something wrong the season before that so we shouldn't even have had the chance to win the Scudetto in 05/06. I honestly don't think Italy would screw their own league by sending us down if we didn't deserve it. That's my opinion.

 

[Dominic]

TBH pretty much everyone was pro-Capello and pro-Zlatan. I have always disliked their complete lack of class, but I don't recall many others agreeing with me.

I was mostly pro-Capello and anti-Ibrahimovic, but I think Capello was usually underappreciated here.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Yeah well I'm pretty sure Moggi and co did something wrong the season before that so we shouldn't even have had the chance to win the Scudetto in 05/06. I honestly don't think Italy would screw their own league by sending us down if we didn't deserve it. That's my opinion.

well if wouldnt be the first time italy screwed their own league, they did it with milan and lazio 20 years ago. Then there was genoa and their match fixing scandal being forced to stay in serie B for another season.

 

[Stu]

so you really believed we actually cheated for the last 2 scudetti? the last 2 scudetti was faught, sweat in the pitch.. and credit goes to our players.. if you call yourself a juventini.. i'm disappointed by your comments... all in all, i still never accept the that juventus cheated for the last 2 scudetti.. and there's no evidence that we cheated..

The players deserve credit and I honestly believe we would have won those two Scudetti even without the help of referees because we were the best team in Italy throughout those seasons. However, there is proof that Moggi was contacting referees and that's bullshit.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

The players deserve credit and I honestly believe we would have won those two Scudetti even without the help of referees because we were the best team in Italy throughout those seasons. However, there is proof that Moggi was contacting referees and that's bullshit.

i'd be greatly interested to see the entire conversations of moggi transcripted and published

 

[Stu]

well if wouldnt be the first time italy screwed their own league, they did it with milan and lazio 20 years ago. Then there was genoa and their match fixing scandal being forced to stay in serie B for another season.

But they do it when it's deserved is what I'm trying to say. They wouldn't screw the league if it wasn't for the long term benefit and getting rid of cheating serves that purpose.

 

[Stu]

i'd be greatly interested to see the entire conversations of moggi transcripted and published

So would I actually but I have no reason to believe they didn't exist.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

But they do it when it's deserved is what I'm trying to say. They wouldn't screw the league if it wasn't for the long term benefit and getting rid of cheating serves that purpose.

yes but then again who was in charge of the figc when all this scandal with juve was going on? :eyebrows:

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[Badass J Elkann]

So would I actually but I have no reason to believe they didn't exist.

any evidence of it probably destroyed now to cover up any truth that would benefit juve

 

[TERENCEE]

But they do it when it's deserved is what I'm trying to say. They wouldn't screw the league if it wasn't for the long term benefit and getting rid of cheating serves that purpose.

you were saying juve deserved to go down to b? how bout milan, fiorentina, lazio? didnt they deserve to do down as well? let me ask you.. dont you find it fishy about the whole calciopoli? something must have happened which we(fans) dont know.. rossi as figc commissioner.. telecom italia etc.. and why facchetti's phone tape isnt punished?