Atleast Andy has the sense to know and sense when its a lost cause. But you, you seem to be a genuine groupie. I havent in minded Tiago this season, can be useful in this formation if he gets going, but he has been shit for his last 3-4 appearances (and just being back from injury can only excuse so much, I get that factor, and it was telling, but he was still too shitty for words), and denying that or defending that is just BS.