Tiago Mendes (27 Viewers)

Dominic

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Jan 30, 2004
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Yea but Chiellini did the same and he remained at the club.
Which in a way backs Ranieri's arguement about fielding players who deserve to play. Both Chiellini and Tiago went public, the former got to play despite it because he plays well. The latter doesn't get to play, because he does not perform.

Not saying this is my opinion.
 

jukazem

Senior Member
Feb 10, 2007
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i believe with a little more patience from tiago's part he will come good. (form temporary,class eternal blah blah) even though at the moment almiron is playing better than tiago, tiago's best is better than almiron's. however i dont believe tiago should be given time on the pitch to prove what he can do. he should prove that in training or when someone's injured. like now for instance, nedved is injured. no matter how much he costs i dont think buying him was a mistakes. for a club like juve a big squad is a must. having players like tiago on the bench is a big plus point.

about tiago- riquelme exchange, i wouldnt give away tiago so early. riquelme is class but having him might give a false security to the management and then juve probably wont fight for the signatures of nasri or quaresma.
 
Dec 26, 2004
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i believe with a little more patience from tiago's part he will come good. (form temporary,class eternal blah blah) even though at the moment almiron is playing better than tiago, tiago's best is better than almiron's. however i dont believe tiago should be given time on the pitch to prove what he can do. he should prove that in training or when someone's injured. like now for instance, nedved is injured. no matter how much he costs i dont think buying him was a mistakes. for a club like juve a big squad is a must. having players like tiago on the bench is a big plus point.

about tiago- riquelme exchange, i wouldnt give away tiago so early. riquelme is class but having him might give a false security to the management and then juve probably wont fight for the signatures of nasri or quaresma.
Almiron isn't doing better.
 

sateeh

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Jul 28, 2003
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Almiron isn't doing better.
exactly, i dont know why people are saying he has been playing well where all i saw that could be good is one half.
That's exactly the problem. We are being strong but later during the games we become sluggish and keep the ball with the opponent.

Against Fiorentina we created a lot of counter attacks that didn't fruit in anything, when Palladino and Del Piero came in, in theory it appeared like the best thing to do, fresh legs and players who can finish a counter attack and thus kill the game with three points in the pocket. But when they came in, the counter attacks became more lame and useless and Fiorentina equalized.

Against Genoa, Ranieri did not want to risk the same type of substitution so he brought Almiron in, who did well keeping the balance but he did not do anything to kill the game.
Thats where our lack of creativity in the midfield comes into place and where Ranieri's argument fails by keeping Tiago on the bench as without camo and marchionni we lack that extra push from the midfield in the latter stages of games.

Dominic said:
Which in a way backs Ranieri's arguement about fielding players who deserve to play. Both Chiellini and Tiago went public, the former got to play despite it because he plays well. The latter doesn't get to play, because he does not perform.

Not saying this is my opinion.
Well thats where Ranieri could say well we have been playing considering all factors, although in the long run it doesn't take an expert to see that his argument will fail as we do not have a solid enough team yet.
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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Hopefully.

A great football team does not need to run. Quick play is an upping of the balltempo, not a higher sprint velocity.

Similarily, only bad defenders need to tackle.
You described an ideal football team where the players stand still each in position passing the ball to each other in the smartest way possible without being intercepted and scoring goals. As for defending, it is also done without effort, they seem to regain possession with just simple maneuvering.
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
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Which in a way backs Ranieri's arguement about fielding players who deserve to play. Both Chiellini and Tiago went public, the former got to play despite it because he plays well. The latter doesn't get to play, because he does not perform.

Not saying this is my opinion.
I will leave Ranieri the judgement in this case. I want Tiago to play good but it seems he needs a lot of time and he doesn´t have the needed patience. Although I understand the reasons Tiago was kept out so far, it almost seems to me that Tiago is deliberately left out of the first 11. Like Ranieri prefers every single given player than Tiago.

I hope this situation clears soon.

about tiago- riquelme exchange, i wouldnt give away tiago so early. riquelme is class but having him might give a false security to the management and then juve probably wont fight for the signatures of nasri or quaresma.
Dude, what Quaresma? Do you seriously think Juventus will fight for Quaresma? Juventus most expensive signing was Tiago who costed 13 million € and Quaresma costs a LOT more. Knowing Juventus, they will probably try to look for a cheapest possible solution for replacing Nedved.
 

jukazem

Senior Member
Feb 10, 2007
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Dude, what Quaresma? Do you seriously think Juventus will fight for Quaresma? Juventus most expensive signing was Tiago who costed 13 million € and Quaresma costs a LOT more. Knowing Juventus, they will probably try to look for a cheapest possible solution for replacing Nedved.
i guess i am more naive than you. besides come to think of it that madrid, barca and the english clubs have full squads. he wants to go to barca but barca cant accomodate him. as far as i see, milan and inter are the only competitors. and with a bit of luck and some strong performance by fiorentina, may be just may be milan wont qualify for cl. then we will stand a good chance. we also got portugese players(tiago and andrade) to make the decision go in our favour. quaresma is definately worth a try.
 

Maher

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Dec 16, 2002
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Maradona Tells Riquelme: You Must Go To Italy

Argentine football legend Diego Maradona has told Juan Roman Riquelme that he must not shun the chance of moving to Serie A.



zoom - galleria The Villarreal star is undoubtedly one of the best playmakers in world football but he has been frozen out of his club’s first team after falling out with Chilean Coach Manuel Pellegrini.

The 29-year-old is certain to leave the Yellow Submarines in January and reports in the Italian press are intensifying that Juventus are ready to table a part-exchange offer including Portuguese flop Tiago Mendes.

Riquelme has been made available for the paltry sum of £3m and with European champions Milan also said to be interested Maradona believes that his compatriot must not turn down a move to the Italian peninsula.

“Juan is 29-years-old and at a crucial point of his career,” said El Pibe de Oro. “It is an opportunity he absolutely must not ignore.”

Despite his lack of playing time for Villarreal, Riquelme is still being picked for his country, and he recently scored two sublime free-kicks during Argentina’s 2-0 win over Chile in a 2010 World Cup qualifier.

The ex-Barcelona midfielder first came to the world’s attention at Boca Juniors, with whom he won the Intercontinental Cup in 2000, after a virtuoso individual performance against Real Madrid in Tokyo.
 

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Nov 26, 2006
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10/24/2007 2:16 PM


Juve: Tiago Can Leave For €13m


Midfield flop Tiago Mendes will be allowed to leave Juventus for €13m, according to La Stampa.



The Portuguese international was signed by the Bianconeri from Lyon in the summer for this very same sum but he has been a huge disappointment in Turin.

The 26-year-old was Juventus’ big money-signing for the new season and was hoped to provide some much-needed power in the centre of midfield.

However he has started just one Serie A game, against second-from-bottom Reggina, and now finds himself behind Cristiano Zanetti, Antonio Nocerino and Sergio Almiron in the pecking order.

Tiago is certain to leave after last week slamming Coach Claudio Ranieri over his lack of playing time, and it was initially believed that the Old Lady would accept a cut-price deal to release him.

It now seems that Tiago will not be allowed to leave for a penny less than the €13m Juve paid for him just a few months ago.

Fiorentina, Barcelona, Villarreal and Sporting Lisbon have all been linked with a move for the ex-Chelsea man in recent days.

Carlo Garganese
 
Sep 19, 2006
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10/24/2007 2:16 PM


Juve: Tiago Can Leave For €13m


Midfield flop Tiago Mendes will be allowed to leave Juventus for €13m, according to La Stampa.



The Portuguese international was signed by the Bianconeri from Lyon in the summer for this very same sum but he has been a huge disappointment in Turin.

The 26-year-old was Juventus’ big money-signing for the new season and was hoped to provide some much-needed power in the centre of midfield.

However he has started just one Serie A game, against second-from-bottom Reggina, and now finds himself behind Cristiano Zanetti, Antonio Nocerino and Sergio Almiron in the pecking order.

Tiago is certain to leave after last week slamming Coach Claudio Ranieri over his lack of playing time, and it was initially believed that the Old Lady would accept a cut-price deal to release him.

It now seems that Tiago will not be allowed to leave for a penny less than the €13m Juve paid for him just a few months ago.

Fiorentina, Barcelona, Villarreal and Sporting Lisbon have all been linked with a move for the ex-Chelsea man in recent days.

Carlo Garganese
This is Bullshit.
No one from Juve's board said this.
It is just some fucken Media rumours.
 

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