Tiago Mendes (32 Viewers)
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But dawg, your logic and overall assessment of Tiago is flawed because:
1) Against Reggina and Empoli in Serie A Tiago played well, completed his passes, and actually had three assists from those matches. That tally is greater than what Nocerino currently has, which is two. How can Tiago not complete a 5 yard slider yet have three assists that were longer than 5 yard sliders?
2) Tiago started about 30 matches for Chelsea under Mourinho, a season in which they ran away with the league title. Tiago also had five goals that season in the Premiership, so can he only score and not pass?
3) Why would Mourinho state that it was a mistake to sell a player who cannot even perform the basic tasks of football?
I mean, sure, Tiago was terrible on Saturday. Perhaps on that day he couldn't complete a five yard pass (even though he did several times). I just think it really wasn't his day and that with everybody calling him a flop, Ranieri going public in saying he was disapointed with Tiago when he never starts, etc, is really setting him up for failure.
This is starting to remind me of the Mendieta mess with Lazio. He wasn't performing to his calibre during his first season, fans quickly became hostile, and I'll never forget seeing Mendieta walking off the pitch practically crying because boos continuously emanated from the Curva Nord whenever he touched the ball, and this was in February. You can quickly destroy any hope of a player performing to his best and Ranieri might have already done that. So maybe you're right, we should sell Tiago right now.
1) Against Reggina and Empoli in Serie A Tiago played well, completed his passes, and actually had three assists from those matches. That tally is greater than what Nocerino currently has, which is two. How can Tiago not complete a 5 yard slider yet have three assists that were longer than 5 yard sliders?
2) Tiago started about 30 matches for Chelsea under Mourinho, a season in which they ran away with the league title. Tiago also had five goals that season in the Premiership, so can he only score and not pass?
3) Why would Mourinho state that it was a mistake to sell a player who cannot even perform the basic tasks of football?
I mean, sure, Tiago was terrible on Saturday. Perhaps on that day he couldn't complete a five yard pass (even though he did several times). I just think it really wasn't his day and that with everybody calling him a flop, Ranieri going public in saying he was disapointed with Tiago when he never starts, etc, is really setting him up for failure.
This is starting to remind me of the Mendieta mess with Lazio. He wasn't performing to his calibre during his first season, fans quickly became hostile, and I'll never forget seeing Mendieta walking off the pitch practically crying because boos continuously emanated from the Curva Nord whenever he touched the ball, and this was in February. You can quickly destroy any hope of a player performing to his best and Ranieri might have already done that. So maybe you're right, we should sell Tiago right now.
I think for me the most alarming factor in this Tiago situation is that its been half a season and he still didn't adapt well to the league. Something that was evident last weekend. I know he had an off day as his work rate was not up to standard, but he got caught out many times in the midfield.
I wouldn't sell him, i still think he has a lot to offer to the team. He was brought because he brings something different to the midfield and we will need that in the future.
I wouldn't sell him, i still think he has a lot to offer to the team. He was brought because he brings something different to the midfield and we will need that in the future.
Tiago Staying In Turin, Declares Agent
Juventus midfielder Tiago might remain in Turin after all that has been mentioned in the Italian press. The player's agent, Roberto Calenda, sets the record straight on his client's future.
According to Calenda, coach Claudio Ranieri seems satisfied with the progress made by the Portuguese midfielder and has decided to keep the player until the end of the season.
"I really think he will remain at Juventus," confirmed Calenda to 'Radio Radio TV'. "We spoke with Ranieri, who was satisfied with the player's performance [against Catania]."
"Tiago is finding some difficulties in acclimatizing himself, but it's without any doubt that he is an important player, for whom Juventus spent a lot of money," he continued.
"We need time for him to prove his worth.
"Our league is tough and for those coming from outside, they need a bit to acclimatize themselves."
Tiago was rumoured to be close to a move to England, with both Portsmouth and Tottenham linked with an 11 million euro move for the player this month.
Glenn Debattista
Juventus midfielder Tiago might remain in Turin after all that has been mentioned in the Italian press. The player's agent, Roberto Calenda, sets the record straight on his client's future.
According to Calenda, coach Claudio Ranieri seems satisfied with the progress made by the Portuguese midfielder and has decided to keep the player until the end of the season.
"I really think he will remain at Juventus," confirmed Calenda to 'Radio Radio TV'. "We spoke with Ranieri, who was satisfied with the player's performance [against Catania]."
"Tiago is finding some difficulties in acclimatizing himself, but it's without any doubt that he is an important player, for whom Juventus spent a lot of money," he continued.
"We need time for him to prove his worth.
"Our league is tough and for those coming from outside, they need a bit to acclimatize themselves."
Tiago was rumoured to be close to a move to England, with both Portsmouth and Tottenham linked with an 11 million euro move for the player this month.
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Nonetheless, he look(ed) good in black&white:
One exceptional game is enough to prove his quality, only one , and I haven't seen that as yet.
1) against reggina and empoli he delivered in terms of assists, which is positive. Unfortunately these three moments of joy are the only reason why you might consider giving him another try at juve. Taking aside his assists tiago has barely won any balls and got overrun very often. Nocerino on the contrary ...
2) same story. 433 and not polyvalent. At least that's the impression he's giving. I don't think consider it a plus for a central midfielder if you can't play in a 422.
3) he knows how to play football, but in italy he hasn't impressed on both technical, tactical (even off the ball he seems lost very often) and physical level yet, to say the least...
Last weekend he was terrible indeed. You judged that well.
Look, it's clear that Tiago sees the play better than many others we have (you want to mention nocerino fe), but this is not enough. You might give him a break if he had one decisive moment every game but until now he has been VERY inconsistent. I would even rather call him consistently bad. And even then ... he plays in central midfield ffs, the heart of the game.
2) same story. 433 and not polyvalent. At least that's the impression he's giving. I don't think consider it a plus for a central midfielder if you can't play in a 422.
3) he knows how to play football, but in italy he hasn't impressed on both technical, tactical (even off the ball he seems lost very often) and physical level yet, to say the least...
Last weekend he was terrible indeed. You judged that well.
Look, it's clear that Tiago sees the play better than many others we have (you want to mention nocerino fe), but this is not enough. You might give him a break if he had one decisive moment every game but until now he has been VERY inconsistent. I would even rather call him consistently bad. And even then ... he plays in central midfield ffs, the heart of the game.
Come on... Tiago won several balls against Empoli and stole the ball in Rome against Lazio midfielders twice on their side of the 50, one time sending Trezeguet in alone on goal but for some reason he missed. That would have been four assists.
But I'm through with this. If people can state that Tiago lacks the basic skills of the game and has been consistently very bad yet only making three starts in 18 matches, I can't do anything to change people's minds. They've made up their minds a long time ago about the player and want him out. Lets strike a deal and get rid of both Tiago and Ranieri.
But I'm through with this. If people can state that Tiago lacks the basic skills of the game and has been consistently very bad yet only making three starts in 18 matches, I can't do anything to change people's minds. They've made up their minds a long time ago about the player and want him out. Lets strike a deal and get rid of both Tiago and Ranieri.
. It was more of a general statement for all those procuring excuses for the player in question.
