Thuram: Juve Deserved Punishment (22 Viewers)

[BlanquiNegro]

Barcelona defender Lilian Thuram has blasted his former club Juventus for their off-field behaviour which led to his two Serie A title-winning medals being declared void.

The France international was part of the Juve side which won the Scudetto in 2005 and 2006, but had them revoked after being found guilty of match-fixing.

Thuram, who moved to Barcelona after the guilty verdict was announced last month, says he feels let down by the Turin club and believes they deserve to be punished.

"I don't feel guilty myself because I have given my all in Turin for five years and sometimes we won, and sometimes we lost," the 34-year-old told Spain's El Pais.

"But if after these sacrifices you discover that other people were doing things to ensure we won every time, it disgusts you.

"Football needs to send out a positive message, but this one was negative, giving the game a dirty image.

"That is why it is right to give Juve a heavy punishment. It may be painful for the players and fans, but it is right for the good of football."

http://www.sportinglife.com/footbal...SOCCER_Ita-Juventus_Thuram.html&TEAMHD=soccer

maybe thats why he himself ensured the draw against Lazio last seson when he gifted them a very silly goal.

 

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[Guardian]

Thanks Thuram
More salt in the wound is always good

 

[Byrone]

Arsenal WILL win C.L THIS season.

Cheers to that!int:

 

[Donsazio]

we all know fenerbache will win GO APPIAH!!

 

[Gill_juve]

what a skanky cu.nt, hes such a rat he has no dignity he had to get out, pure shi-te

 

[Juventino★★★]

i really thought that he is model professional like Cannavaro and Alex but after what he said im happy that he left

 

[iliakis]

We pay him for what?five-six years?and that's the thx we get.We made him what he is,he is know around the world cause of Juve.His own words are his panisment.
I hope he has a really bad life at Barca,an i would also like an endCarrierInjury.
I really hate this looser.Go to hell....em what's your name again?

 

[iliakis]

Could somebody possibly give me his exact location??? I have a few things i need to give to Thuram.

If you need any company making a trip to that looser plz pm me....i would be glad to help.

 

[Marko]

F*** him, he is past...

 

[Sadomin]

Brave of him to say that actually. Anyone who denies that what he says isn't true is either blind or a fool.

 

[Snoop]

did he say something wrong? Juve must have been punished and all happened is fair, he is just being honest..

 

[pavelnedved]

But he's proposing a heavy punishment. He probably wants us in C or something.

Go to fucking hell, you idiot. I'll pray for you to break your legs over there.

 

[Il Re]

t-hore-am is bad french

trezeguet is good french

Abu you are the man!!

 

[Desmond]

Maybe its just me, but where exactly is Thuram wrong here? Juventus deserves punishment, and a heavy punishment befits a heavy infringement of the rules. Perhaps a more appreciative tone would be welcome but he does have every right to feel disgusted, one could argue perhaps even more so sicne he was a central player to our success and vice-captain at some point.

 

[Lilianna]

thuram keeps surprises me...
too bad

 

[francesco]

Barcelona defender Lilian Thuram has blasted his former club Juventus for their off-field behaviour which led to his two Serie A title-winning medals being declared void.

The France international was part of the Juve side which won the Scudetto in 2005 and 2006, but had them revoked after being found guilty of match-fixing.

Thuram, who moved to Barcelona after the guilty verdict was announced last month, says he feels let down by the Turin club and believes they deserve to be punished.

"I don't feel guilty myself because I have given my all in Turin for five years and sometimes we won, and sometimes we lost," the 34-year-old told Spain's El Pais.

"But if after these sacrifices you discover that other people were doing things to ensure we won every time, it disgusts you.

"Football needs to send out a positive message, but this one was negative, giving the game a dirty image.

"That is why it is right to give Juve a heavy punishment. It may be painful for the players and fans, but it is right for the good of football."

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_1415223,00.html


what a bastard... we made this guy who he is today and he goes and talks about juventus this way, in my opinion he just has a bad opinion of italian football because we beat them in the world cup.. bloody french frog!

im so glad he has left us, guys like him n zlatan shit me... they arent true bianconeri!

 

[Eddy]

Sorry mate but there's a thread about this already

 

[mikhail]

what a bastard... we made this guy who he is today and he goes and talks about juventus this way, in my opinion he just has a bad opinion of italian football because we beat them in the world cup.. bloody french frog!

He was what, 29, a World and European champion and one of the most respected and sought after defenders in the world when Juve signed him. Juve made him slightly wealthier, that's all. And cut out the racist crap.

 

[mikhail]

Threads merged. Cheers Eddie.

 

[mikhail]

Maybe its just me, but where exactly is Thuram wrong here? Juventus deserves punishment, and a heavy punishment befits a heavy infringement of the rules. Perhaps a more appreciative tone would be welcome but he does have every right to feel disgusted, one could argue perhaps even more so sicne he was a central player to our success and vice-captain at some point.

This is worth a read, I think. It was a letter to the editor on the same website as quoted Thuram there.

In Defence Of Juventus...

Being a regular follower of Italian football, I have always perceived a hefty anti-Juventus bias in Sheridan Bird's regular 'Gazzetta' features, so it came as no surprise to see point number 10 of his 'Ten Things We'll Like To See In Italian Football This Season'. Perhaps these blinkers have kept him from seeing and/or reporting on the following facts:

- the referees accused of fixing Juventus matches were all absolved of any wrongdoing. The only referee banned (De Sanctis) was done so for a match that neither involved nor affected Juventus.

- There was no proof that Juventus fixed a single match, and the court of appeals president admitted as such publicly. The court nevertheless relegated Juventus to Serie B for 'fixing the whole 2004-05 season'. They have yet to explain how it is possible to fix a whole season without fixing a single match.

- Juve were revoked their 2005-06 title even if there never was even any suspicion of wrongdoing in that season. The interim president of the Italian federation Guido Rossi, who used to be a member of Inter Milan's board, assigned this title to...Inter Milan!!

The press and pundits who had built up the whole case were the same people who looked the other way when Inter were playing a player with a false Italian passport to bypass the limit on the number of foreign players (Alvaro Recoba), and when Roma's president sent Rolexes to all the referees for Christmas a few years back. Neither Inter nor Roma were ever penalised for these incidents.
They are the same people who are still looking the other way now that AC Milan are still in both Serie A and the Champions League after their club official was intercepted in a phone call to a linesman directly asking him to favour AC Milan. None of the Juventus officials' phone calls intercepted (on which the case against them was built) was even made to a referee or linesman.

Juventus being relegated to Serie B had been decreed and known even before the sham trial began - the judges were reappointed by the aforementioned Mr Rossi just before the trial, and to make sure that the accusations stuck, clubs were not allowed to either call witnesses OR bring any evidence for defence (with the excuse that there wasn't enough time - fair trial isn't it?). After three months of media frenzy fed by people of Sheridan Bird's ilk in the press, public opinion in bars up and down the country would never have accepted a judgement favourable to Juventus, so Juventus were sent down regardless of the evidence available.

So maybe Mr Bird should change his point 10 to 'Non-match-fixing cheats Juventus Football Club playing in Serie B for being accused of being match-fixing cheats, as a punishment for being too successful and not allowing AC Milan or Inter Milan to win anything.'

I know this is Italian football not the Premiership, so this has about as much chance of getting published as a pro-Chelsea letter on an Italian website, but just trying to educate a few people while venting some anger.

James (Juventus in case nobody noticed) Micallef, Amsterdam