Thiago "The Fired Fraud" Motta (94 Viewers)

mOUTta or not?


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Salvo

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Dec 17, 2007
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This. 100% this. I think the pressure is really getting to him. I haven't given up on him yet, but it's not looking good.
We've had so many ups and downs, I just don't know what it is with this team. We always sit back after scoring but this has been an issue for years. We need to stay on the front foot, we don't have the defense to try and defend a lead.
 

Adrian

Senior Member
Jan 31, 2003
6,872
We've had so many ups and downs, I just don't know what it is with this team. We always sit back after scoring but this has been an issue for years. We need to stay on the front foot, we don't have the defense to try and defend a lead.
This....and even though the team has changed so much since allegri left we still manage to have this BS mentality of scoring and then trying to absorb it.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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We've had so many ups and downs, I just don't know what it is with this team. We always sit back after scoring but this has been an issue for years. We need to stay on the front foot, we don't have the defense to try and defend a lead.
we didn't at the beginning of the season. i don't think motta is happy about it. now that we have less injured players it's getting really hard to blame it on the lack of options, and the other potential reasons (physical condition, mentality) are motta's responsibilities.
 

Salvo

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Dec 17, 2007
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we didn't at the beginning of the season. i don't think motta is happy about it. now that we have less injured players it's getting really hard to blame it on the lack of options, and the other potential reasons (physical condition, mentality) are motta's responsibilities.
Which is bizarre really that we are now sitting back after scoring. Motta even said recently that he wasn't happy about it, that we need to keep attacking.
 

Stevie

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Mar 30, 2003
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Which is bizarre really that we are now sitting back after scoring. Motta even said recently that he wasn't happy about it, that we need to keep attacking.
Lack of experience and leadership is causing this.

We have too many young players or players who haven't won anything in their careers.

They panic when they go in front and play within themselves. They don't have the balls to see a game out or the composure to kill the game.
 

Salvo

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Dec 17, 2007
62,797
Lack of experience and leadership is causing this.

We have too many young players or players who haven't won anything in their careers.

They panic when they go in front and play within themselves. They don't have the balls to see a game out or the composure to kill the game.
The leadership thing is very true. There is a vacuum and they all try to do too much to overcompensate.
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
Which is bizarre really that we are now sitting back after scoring. Motta even said recently that he wasn't happy about it, that we need to keep attacking.
If he isn’t t happy about it why is it happening every game? He’s the one coaching them.

Why are players following my instructions ? And then acts shocked
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
Lack of experience and leadership is causing this.

We have too many young players or players who haven't won anything in their careers.

They panic when they go in front and play within themselves. They don't have the balls to see a game out or the composure to kill the game.

My brother Monaco won Ligue 1 and made it to champions league semi finals with a squad average age 24 including a 17 year old mbappe leading their attack

I’m not saying juve needs to win the league and make it cl semi finals, but fighting for conference league is not acceptable.
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
Really no one should be surprised he is failing.

What kind of shit tactics is making the fullback come inside to play cm while the cms go wide to do…pass back.

What kind of genius tactic is this
 

Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,188
This guy is shit. The only person that could have come in after Allegri and managed to make the team play a worse style of football with even less success. He’s alienated half the squad, had a hoard of new signings and done absolutely nothing in the process. What an achievement…
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
80,960
Sack before the damage is to big! We won’t make top4 with him - missing out on the cl money will ruin us beyond repair


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He said in the press conference before this game “I’m not obsessed about winning”. Any Juventus coach who says shit like that in the public sphere deserves to be sacked on the spot.

But this is current Juventus. And mediocrity is happily accepted.
 

Robee

Senior Member
Jun 21, 2011
7,006
I agree on Allegri, he made the most from that squad.

Our owners are covering the losses by injecting capital every few years. They will acquire more shares, dilute the value of the existing ones and we keep rolling. However, those losses occur exactly because we overspent on the market between transfer fees (depreciation) and salaries. We have outspent every team in Italy over the last 5 years. I would assume each summer. But we have failed to compete for Scudetto for 5 straight seasons. We, as a company that has few dozens of billions of € worth coorporation backing us, are in infinitely better financial position than any other club in Italy. The amount of money invested in Juventus by Exor is probably more than a billion over the last 10 years.

All these players you named were ousted since they have not been considered good enough for the money we spent on them. We reduced the wage bill and the age of the squad, which is positive but if results will be missing, we will take bigger financial hit. Luckily we have a big coorporation to bail us out but until when will they keep doing it?
Yes, the owners have been pumping money into the club and yes we threw money out the door in past seasons... All of these guys with their high salaries, basically non-existent sell-on value and their unusually high salaries were last managements' fault 'tho.
We didn't do that this summer. Well, at least not blindly. Douglas Luiz was partly overpriced because of the trade and Koop partly because of the payment set up. Still too much but I remember Marotta's handle which was either a big transfer fee or a higher salary (often on a Bosman), not both at the same time. We def used that tactic.

What you're mentioning is exactly the reason why Elkann took over imo. He's much more of an objective numbers' guy than the emotional Agnelli. So his #1 goal is financial selfcare and therefor remediating. It's painful right now but financial health is obviously the main priority and sets you up in the long run.

We should still be doing better sporting-wise with this squad (bar the injury crisis because we're too thin) and Motta is responsible; Vlahovic was complaining to be stuck on an island last season but I don't see much difference this season... The link between him and midfield is missing all the time.
 
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