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Jasp

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Hiddink is likely IMO to end up in Manchester city next season. Our clowns are likely to give zaccheroni a longer contract once we make it at the top 4.
Mancini will only get half a year? Don't think so.

Zac has to go in the summer. It simply has to be that way. I keep my hopes up by believing rumours about BOD change.
 

only-juve

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Jan 5, 2008
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Mancini will only get half a year? Don't think so.

Zac has to go in the summer. It simply has to be that way. I keep my hopes up by believing rumours about BOD change.
I remember hearing that city gave Mancini a 6 months contract with a possibility of renewing it for 3 years if he met certain goals (not too sure about it though).

Anyways we had a chance to hire Hiddink when we fired Ferrara but we didn't. We'll see what will happen but my guess is we'll continue with zaccheroni if we reach a champions league spot.
 

sebastian

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I remember hearing that city gave Mancini a 6 months contract with a possibility of renewing it for 3 years if he met certain goals (not too sure about it though).

Anyways we had a chance to hire Hiddink when we fired Ferrara but we didn't. We'll see what will happen but my guess is we'll continue with zaccheroni if we reach a champions league spot.
hiddink always said he first want to resolve the issues with russia so he wasn't a real candidate at that time. but let's wait till june to know what we gonna do
 

Jasp

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I remember hearing that city gave Mancini a 6 months contract with a possibility of renewing it for 3 years if he met certain goals (not too sure about it though).

Sounds plausible

Anyways we had a chance to hire Hiddink when we fired Ferrara but we didn't. We'll see what will happen but my guess is we'll continue with zaccheroni if we reach a champions league spot.
hiddink always said he first want to resolve the issues with russia so he wasn't a real candidate at that time. but let's wait till june to know what we gonna do
:agree:

ecco and Blanc use their time on tax fiddling, so I think there is a reasonable chance that negotiations never took place.

Now that he has gone public with his plans. there is no reason he won't sign with anybody the next couple of months. I think presenting him now, will lift the spirits of our players becuase they have could believe in the "project" again. They could use half a year to plan a transfer campaign that suits Hiddink and the team. Think it could work really well.

Downside: Zaccheroni may not be motivated, but again I think he fighting for a job in another club as much as in Juve. And it would be a weird situation to be in, but they should have made it clear that he is an interim coach, and that things like this could happen. But knowing our BOD they probably promised him a deal if he meets certain things :sergio:

My list is now: Hiddink - Prandelli - Benitez

One things is for sure: We should pay the price. It is money well spent !!!
 

Jasp

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I also think bringing a real name, a world class coach would really help our chances to keep Buffon (and Chiellini). If he sees progress he will stay. But keeping Zaccherini might just be the spark that ignites the dynamite...
 

Alen

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Oh and I see that Hamisik's price is ~30mln.

Inter links are coming already.
Inter have so many advantages over Juve when dealing with the mid-table Italian clubs, that it's annoying. In order of importance, these are the reasons why Inter has an advantage over us:

1. They have more money than Juve so they can pay more.

2. They can offer quality players in exchange. None of Genoa, Palermo, Napoli or Sampdoria would like to take our "garbage". None of them would like Salihamidzic, Legrottaglie, Grygera but they'd all want Mancini, Quaresma, Biabiany, Luis Jimenez, Obinna, Suazo and even Burdisso or Rivas.
Players like Poulsen and Amauri are getting lots of playing time and they will never accept to move to Napoli or Sampdoria while guys like Quaresma will do it in order to save their career.

3. These players watch Inter week in week out, they play against them and they all want to be part of a winning machine (at least in domestic level). Also, they know that Inter will pay them bigger wages than Juve.

4. What hurts the most, Napoli, Sampdoria, Genoa etc don't see Inter as their rival so strengthening Inter won't be a problem. But for their ambitions to win the 4th place Juve is a rival and they wouldn't be too happy strengthening a rival :)wallbang:)


Anyway, here is a good example how can Inter strengthen themselves with little money. Take Milito's and Motta's transfer to Inter.

Milito= 25 mln €
Motta = 14 mln €
So Inter have to pay 39m eur for both of them. Instead Inter do this:
- Pay 12 mln €
- Add: Acquafresca 15 mln €, Meggiorini 5 mln €, Bonucci 4 mln €, Bolzoni 3 mln €

In what way can Juve lower a price of 39 mln without losing important players? Look at Felipe Melo's transfer and you'll see how impossible it is for us to do it.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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Thats why they should be doing an annual review of the club,thats how its done in business.If the club is constantly failing in various sectors,it needs to be addressed & corrected.

I agree with you that we could buy most of the best stars for this team but it wont help.

Medical staff - Misdiagnosing injuries.This devalues the players & we still have to pay weekly wages irrespective of them playing or not.We cant afford this rubbish anymore.

Coach - We haven't had a coach with a winning mentality in years now,somebody that commands respect & that can inspire,give direction & also motivate the players week in,week out.We ned a coach that can give the players their clear roles in the team,not mix it up whenever he's lost.We need a coach that's not afraid to make changes in time even at the expense of our stars.How many times have we seen substitutions in the 80th min?

Style of play - We need to work on strength,stamina & passing.How many times have we conceded possession? How many times have the players given up in the second half,due to exhaustion? We lack speed & we get caught on the counter way too much.

These three issues are of great concern for me.Look at Genoa,Sampdoria & Napoli,their players are inferior to ours yet they are grinding out results.Its not all about the quality of the players but the collective effort thats being out in.That being said its obvious we need to work on new recruits but we need to address those areas mentioned above.

:tup:


Lisandro :delpiero:

Argentina have a ridiculous amount of quality for strikers.
So true. Aguero, Higuain, Tevez, Milito, Zarate, Messi, Lisandro, Lavezzi and Zarate. A selection headache if there ever was one.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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Inter have so many advantages over Juve when dealing with the mid-table Italian clubs, that it's annoying. In order of importance, these are the reasons why Inter has an advantage over us:

1. They have more money than Juve so they can pay more.

2. They can offer quality players in exchange. None of Genoa, Palermo, Napoli or Sampdoria would like to take our "garbage". None of them would like Salihamidzic, Legrottaglie, Grygera but they'd all want Mancini, Quaresma, Biabiany, Luis Jimenez, Obinna, Suazo and even Burdisso or Rivas.
Players like Poulsen and Amauri are getting lots of playing time and they will never accept to move to Napoli or Sampdoria while guys like Quaresma will do it in order to save their career.

3. These players watch Inter week in week out, they play against them and they all want to be part of a winning machine (at least in domestic level). Also, they know that Inter will pay them bigger wages than Juve.

4. What hurts the most, Napoli, Sampdoria, Genoa etc don't see Inter as their rival so strengthening Inter won't be a problem. But for their ambitions to win the 4th place Juve is a rival and they wouldn't be too happy strengthening a rival :)wallbang:)


Anyway, here is a good example how can Inter strengthen themselves with little money. Take Milito's and Motta's transfer to Inter.

Milito= 25 mln €
Motta = 14 mln €
So Inter have to pay 39m eur for both of them. Instead Inter do this:
- Pay 12 mln €
- Add: Acquafresca 15 mln €, Meggiorini 5 mln €, Bonucci 4 mln €, Bolzoni 3 mln €

In what way can Juve lower a price of 39 mln without losing important players? Look at Felipe Melo's transfer and you'll see how impossible it is for us to do it.
Meggiorini was an Inter player??

Stinging left foot that guy has got on him. Bari as a whole are a good counterattacking team :tup:
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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Milito= 25 mln €
Motta = 14 mln €
So Inter have to pay 39m eur for both of them. Instead Inter do this:
- Pay 12 mln €
- Add: Acquafresca 15 mln €, Meggiorini 5 mln €, Bonucci 4 mln €, Bolzoni 3 mln €

In what way can Juve lower a price of 39 mln without losing important players? Look at Felipe Melo's transfer and you'll see how impossible it is for us to do it.
Good points you had there.

But this? Are you sure?
 
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