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Actually i don't like them at all, but i really can't miss big finals!
I respect KG and Allen a lot and because of them i hope Celtics can win next two games at Garden and try to get 4th in LA.
I support Magic and Spurs
Btw:
Revealed: Former Chelsea Attacker Joe Cole Has Signed A Contract To Join Arsenal After World Cup 2010
* Deal agreed in principal before player flew out to the World Cup * England midfielder's move will be completed if he passes full medical * Three-year, £80,000-a-week contract laden with incentives
I respect KG and Allen a lot and because of them i hope Celtics can win next two games at Garden and try to get 4th in LA.
I support Magic and Spurs
Btw:
Revealed: Former Chelsea Attacker Joe Cole Has Signed A Contract To Join Arsenal After World Cup 2010
* Deal agreed in principal before player flew out to the World Cup * England midfielder's move will be completed if he passes full medical * Three-year, £80,000-a-week contract laden with incentives
Gallas' wages would be a big problem. Remember, there is no such thing as a "free" transfer.
Clichy is not out of contract, AFAIK. La Stampa reports that Arsenal has expressed interest in Melo, so there might be somethin here. Gael would certainly be a boost to our defence.
Joe Cole? I'd give a call to his agent to see what's his situation, but he's more likely to go to clubs like City or Arsenal, I believe.
Clichy is not out of contract, AFAIK. La Stampa reports that Arsenal has expressed interest in Melo, so there might be somethin here. Gael would certainly be a boost to our defence.
Joe Cole? I'd give a call to his agent to see what's his situation, but he's more likely to go to clubs like City or Arsenal, I believe.
People are saying "Gallas? Sure, why not; if he's free let's just add him and put him on the bench."
Gallas is likely to seek a heavy wage (let's assume 4M/year) and a signing fee (that should be manageable, let's discard that).
So, on the assumption that he signs a two-year contract for 4M/year, that will cost us 8M, plus taxes. It's almost a given that he'll leave for free / retire at the end of that period.
Instead of investing 8M in Gallas, we could look for a younger defender, worth 8M, who would earn 2M/year and sign a 4-year deal.
After two years (for the sake of comparison with a Gallas deal), we will have paid 12M.
The difference is that after two years, Gallas is worth 0 EUR (net investment = 8 M), while our young and talented defender may be worth between 6M and 18M (net investment = between 6 and -6M)
Simply put, my point is that Gallas on the bench is not "free"
Gallas is likely to seek a heavy wage (let's assume 4M/year) and a signing fee (that should be manageable, let's discard that).
So, on the assumption that he signs a two-year contract for 4M/year, that will cost us 8M, plus taxes. It's almost a given that he'll leave for free / retire at the end of that period.
Instead of investing 8M in Gallas, we could look for a younger defender, worth 8M, who would earn 2M/year and sign a 4-year deal.
After two years (for the sake of comparison with a Gallas deal), we will have paid 12M.
The difference is that after two years, Gallas is worth 0 EUR (net investment = 8 M), while our young and talented defender may be worth between 6M and 18M (net investment = between 6 and -6M)
Simply put, my point is that Gallas on the bench is not "free"
I am assuming Bale is some kind of option, only because of Iaquinta. It is true that Tottenham are looking for another tall forward and Iaq might be just their man. I don't know why, but I do believe he will do well in England and that his style is great for that league.
I wouldn't mind if we sell him in the 10 mln range, but a swap for Bale/Modric is what a bianconero expects from our new 'Moggi'.
I wouldn't mind if we sell him in the 10 mln range, but a swap for Bale/Modric is what a bianconero expects from our new 'Moggi'.
Actually I heard Gallas would earn 2M a season so its 4M
a good younger defender worth 8M is quite hard to fine as it usually starts around 12M
Lets say we do get a player worth 8M and give him a contract worth 2M a season
the differece is 8M
You are right Gallas will go for free but he will give us contribution
A young defender might be sold later in his career and could stay
if he stays and retires here we get nothing for him
If we sell him than it depends on the price we sell him for
What I`m trying to say in the short run it is better for us to look at cheaper solutions and try to strengthen the side as much as possible
In the long run investing in younger players is the more profitable and more affordable
As for this year I hope we get a great CB don`t care if he is free or not because we desperately need it
Gallas could be a backup as I`m not sure about him as a starter
As a backup I would rather we sign him and not some other player since we need to invest our cash in the way that will get us the best team possible and it will make us have more $ for other positions
As for the NBA FINALS GO LAKERS
a good younger defender worth 8M is quite hard to fine as it usually starts around 12M
Lets say we do get a player worth 8M and give him a contract worth 2M a season
the differece is 8M
You are right Gallas will go for free but he will give us contribution
A young defender might be sold later in his career and could stay
if he stays and retires here we get nothing for him
If we sell him than it depends on the price we sell him for
What I`m trying to say in the short run it is better for us to look at cheaper solutions and try to strengthen the side as much as possible
In the long run investing in younger players is the more profitable and more affordable
As for this year I hope we get a great CB don`t care if he is free or not because we desperately need it
Gallas could be a backup as I`m not sure about him as a starter
As a backup I would rather we sign him and not some other player since we need to invest our cash in the way that will get us the best team possible and it will make us have more $ for other positions
As for the NBA FINALS GO LAKERS
I'm not necessarily against someone like Gallas. As you say, in the short run, it might be a sensible decision. In fact, if Gallas can be an important piece in a succesfull season, his wages will yield a good return on investment. All I'm doing is debunking the "free" argument. We have a limited wage envelope and should be careful with it.
On the bold part of your post, if the "young defender" stays for the rest of his carreer, then this means that the transfer price will be a smaller part of the cost on him. If he stays 10 years, and you paid 8M for his transfer + 2M/year in wages, that's a total cost of 28M. Otherwise put, every year you pay 2M in wages and 800.000 in transfer fees. Also, if at any time you need the cash, you can sell him and recoup part/all/more of the money invested in fee + wages.
I guess this underlines that wages are at least an as important factor than transfer fees more than anything else.
On the bold part of your post, if the "young defender" stays for the rest of his carreer, then this means that the transfer price will be a smaller part of the cost on him. If he stays 10 years, and you paid 8M for his transfer + 2M/year in wages, that's a total cost of 28M. Otherwise put, every year you pay 2M in wages and 800.000 in transfer fees. Also, if at any time you need the cash, you can sell him and recoup part/all/more of the money invested in fee + wages.
I guess this underlines that wages are at least an as important factor than transfer fees more than anything else.
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