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Fred

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Fred, in the clip, Wenger is commentating a Lille game, and praising Hazard alot (saw highlight of the game he is commentating back then, and praised him way more then that just little bit). But no, I dont see him going to Arsenal at all.

Even if yeah Hazard said he appriciates the top clubs interested in him, Real and Arsenal in particular etc.

But defenitely if our peeps are smart, they should realize best and perhaps only chance for us to get him, IF they want him (and seriously, they should, = Camo replacement), that they cant really wait for the summer IMO. Will be on alot of wishlists by then.

Wenger has spent good money on big talents before, i don't believe its impossible that he'd spend for Hazard.

Walcott, Ramsey, Reyes in the past are all good examples on Wenger being rather receptive to the idea of spending on young talents.

Fred, since you follow Ligue 1 more than most of us as far as I know: Have you ever heard about possible mentality problems that Hazard may have?
I don't follow the Ligue 1 that closely myself, so I wouldn't know, but in the recent past there used to be a lot of problems in the Belgian NT. Certain players were said to be troublemakers, and according to the reports Hazard was always one of these players.
I haven't heard anything of the sort to be honest. He has always had a positive attitude at Lille. Very confident player, he has been a revelation ever since he got the chance to play.

Though i think it might be too early to say if he does have mentality problems or not.
 

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Osman

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Mark, dont play with us :p Cant you send it through the gripe vines with these so called big time informers, that they should murmur as much as possible about Hazard? :D

Wenger has spent good money on big talents before, i don't believe its impossible that he'd spend for Hazard.

Walcott, Ramsey, Reyes in the past are all good examples on Wenger being rather receptive to the idea of spending on young talents.
I know he has, I but somehow I dont see it happening because of not being seen as a priority, nor that Wenger will finally use alot of money on a young talent (Walcott yes, but Ramsey wasnt so much, Hazard will require quite bit more). If you were, you would have big chance in signing him. Hazard would like that quite a bit me thinks.
 

Buck Fuddy

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Hehe Butt fucker, were did you hear that? And to what extent was it reported? 2007 summer U-17 euro, first time I saw him, he was their best player (taking them to the semi's or final, dont remember), impressive belgian youth team. But remember from that tourno Hazard showed alot of cocky attitude and was a hassle with being overconfident (or was he? was so dominant it was justified). But since then, in his pro career for Lille last 2 seasons (from the games I've seen), havent noticed that Ben Arfa-esque attitude from him since (more humble in such a scenario I guess, been pretty professional and mature from from what have noticed on ze pitch).

His main problem, for now, is that despite his excellent balance, that he is physically weak, but is still quite young and tenacious so he can work on that.
Much as yourself, I always thought he had a cocky attitude, but I never heard anything else than a bunch of rumours. That is up until a few months ago.

The Belgian NT has been performing like crap for many years now but a few months ago things really became quite absurd. Around that time a lot of stories came out about problems in the dressing room.
Reportedly the young players showed no respect whatsoever to the senior players. Story goes that, whenever something was mentioned about that, they pretty much told the elders that they could go and f*ck themselves. One of these young players that was frequently mentioned was Hazard, together with Vandenborre (no surprise here) & Fellaini (doesn't sound too far fetched either). In the meantime the NT has a new coach and Vandenborre has already been dropped & from what I've heard, Fellaini has to be pretty careful if he wants to keep playing for the NT.
Then there were reports that certain young players (once again including Hazard) partied a bit too much (going out after big losses etc) and didn't really care about anything else.

But, like I said, I don't know if this problem was more related to the NT than it was to Hazard himself, hence my question.
I do have to say that, the last time I saw Hazard playing, he looked a lot less cocky than a year ago.


I'm sad though that you keep screwing up my name :cry:


I haven't heard anything of the sort to be honest. He has always had a positive attitude at Lille. Very confident player, he has been a revelation ever since he got the chance to play.

Though i think it might be too early to say if he does have mentality problems or not.
Thx for the (limited ;)) info.
 
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Mark

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    Mark, dont play with us :p Cant you send it through the gripe vines with these so called big time informers, that they should murmur as much as possible about Hazard? :D
    There are threads about him at VS and J1897 already. They already love the guy. Castagnini loves him so that's a plus, he KNOWS him. :D

    Is Pandev available for free?? He would be great for us!!
    Yes, he won is case in court. The thing is I'm afraid inter already have some :gsol:arrangement:gsol: for him. :frown:
     

    K.O.

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    Since we're famous for getting players for free, this is the right time and Pandev is the perfect player to sign.

    We need to add some speed and skill to our attack.
     

    Osman

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    Hehe, it comes with the territory so get used to it Mayor of Sodom ;)

    And well, nothing of that suprises me to hear btw (have you heard of the French NT? EXACTLY same thing, Nasri, benzema, Ben Arfa in his few calls up etc, all telling senior players to go fuck themselves), but I dont think any of that effects his playing or performance, I havent noticed it at all. But just typically how some deal with conflict (and however rude, they arent necessarily automatically in the wrong because its toward senior players, in France case, it was to Gallas, and DUDE DESERVED IT), especially this new generation. More "independent" bunch, not submissive to seniority or such like the previous generations (and considering they are labled stars since young teens, no wonder they get this kinda attitude).

    Though partying part can be worrying, even if still a young kid, who can blame him, though there is partying and partying too much. For footballers, I notice even if you are professional who does he job, that if you go to a party here or there, without being excessive about it, you will still be deemed an unprofessional partyboy, like one shouldnt go out at all (been so too often, last time with Bendtner just having a night out, being chastized for it in the media).

    Brazilians generally the culprits (they are pretty straighforward about it too hehe) or victims of the stereotype. But defenite biggiest example of culprits of it I heard are/were croats :D Of some year/years ago tons of senior players going partying all through til the morning when they should be in their player hotels, directly affecting their professional obligations, I think it was Srna, Olic and et al who were suspended, hehe.


    But regarding Hazard, I would pretty much say, for now, its prolly something relating to that NT conflict, and not something that effects his footie in general. Been pretty straighforward young mature player so far in my experience. He is cocky in style of play, and has defenite reasons to be.
     

    Osman

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    There are threads about him at VS and J1897 already. They already love the guy. Castagnini loves him so that's a plus, he KNOWS him. :D
    SWEET, then the next step is for them to use their "informant" clout and bandwagoning to promote and hail Castagnini to be elevated to an influential role :D
     

    K.O.

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    He's not exactly the person I want starting for us. Bench, yeah. Not at all fussed if Inter get him and we continue with Dzeko, for example.
    For free, getting Pandev now for the remainder of this season won't affect our chances of signing Dzeko, too.

    To be honest, I see Dzeko going directly to EPL next season :frown:
     

    Buck Fuddy

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    Hehe, it comes with the territory so get used to it Mayor of Sodom ;)
    They can party every day for all I care, if they perform the way they are supposed to. He just got a lot of criticism for partying after a game that was lost in a shameful manner. Something I wouldn't be ok with.

    About the seniority thing: you are right in saying that "kids" these days are a bit more outspoken. I don't have any problem with that, but I do have a problem when there is a complete lack of respect towards people who have proven themselves.

    Imagine Juve buying a 17 or 18 year old kid and that kid goes around telling DP or Gigi to f*ck off. Even if he is better or more useful than DP at that point in time, I wouldn't be too amused. I'd want him out of the club in a heartbeat.
     
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    Mark, do you know that guy?
    no but I think he's got like 0 goals in 14 games so he fits our bill. :p Anyway, those are minor deals so if he turns good, great. If he doesn't, big deal. He's on loan and we can buy ½ later.
     

    Osman

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    They can party every day for all I care, if they perform the way they are supposed to. He just got a lot of criticism for partying after a game that was lost in a shameful manner. Something I wouldn't be ok with.

    About the seniority thing: you are right in saying that "kids" these days are a bit more outspoken. I don't have any problem with that, but I do have a problem when there is a complete lack of respect towards people who have proven themselves.

    Imagine Juve buying a 17 or 18 year old kid and that kid goes around telling DP or Gigi to f*ck off. Even if he is better or more useful than DP at that point in time, I wouldn't be too amused. I'd want him out of the club in a heartbeat.
    Too true, its bit too much. Though its ok to disagree or say your mind to seniors (and not be pushovers or whipping boys like it used to be). Telling them to fuck off is another thing. Ben Arfa was basically kicked off France NT for that.
     
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