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Fred

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You sure? :confused:

From all the matches i've seen of him in Sampdoria i never saw him covering midfield and i surely never saw him defend. When the other team's attacking, Cassano is the only Samp player not involved in the defense and he's always in opponent's half or at the center when the ball is in Sampdoria's half. If you check on Samp's counters you'll see that Cassano is alone up front, he recieves the ball, holds it, and waits for Pazzini to make a run from behind
Maybe you got confused with how he goes deep to take the ball sometimes. But Del Piero was doing the same last year when the midfield couldn't do anything, so Ale had to do everything alone. That's the case with Cassano from time to time, when the midfield is clueless.
Exactly, but take him deeper down the field and you will reduce his danger a lot. He is a support striker ala DP.
 

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If Canna leaves I want a veteran like Marquez(free). If he stays then a young guy like Kjaer or even Ranocchia could do.
next year chiellini will be 26 years old. so i think that he can be the experienced one. anyway, i think that canna will stay here for 2 seasons ant then he will retire.
 

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If Canna leaves I want a veteran like Marquez(free). If he stays then a young guy like Kjaer or even Ranocchia could do.
:tup:

next year chiellini will be 26 years old. so i think that he can be the experienced one. anyway, i think that canna will stay here for 2 seasons ant then he will retire.
Chiellini being older does not necessarily mean he will have the organisational ability that is required to be the leader of the defence.
 

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Kjaer or even Mexès for cheap will do then.
both of them are good. i can't really decide. so with either i will be good. with mexes you have someone who can be a world class player immediately. with kjaer you can have a potentially world class player for 15 years. i really can't chose...
 

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Chiellini being older does not necessarily mean he will have the organisational ability that is required to be the leader of the defence.
next year he will be 26 and he is playing here since 2005. he has played in cl when he was 20 and before this he had one full year in fiorentina. in addition to this he has gained his starting position in italy some years before. he has a lot of experience and i can see him being our commanding cb.
 
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Mark

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    For the support striker/post-DP we could do like we always do and buy some player not linked to us instead of the names we read in the papers and cost an arm. A guy like Suarez comes to mind.
     

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    For the support striker/post-DP we could do like we always do and buy some player not linked to us instead of the names we read in the papers and cost an arm. A guy like Suarez comes to mind.
    who is suarez??? the guy who plays for ajax?? if it's him the one you are talking for is he good enough to play here??

    i would like some bigger name though. i haven't seen the kid and i don't know but i would expect a big name to be del piero's successor. just like when nedved left we bought diego, i expect someone big...

    suarez and someone else wouldn't be bad either. especially if trez decides to leave after all.

    this will bring a better balance in out attack cause we will have 2 powerful strikers and 2 supporting strikers. now we have 3 powerful and one supporting and it's obvious that some of them doesn't combine well.

    anyway, if our mercatos continue to be like the previous one, i have nothing to be afraid of...
     
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    Mark

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Suárez_(footballer)

    A nice footballer. Not another smurf from South America and scores constantly for the past couple of years. I like him.

    Agüero would take most of our budget while we should invest it primarily on a RB. Cassano is Cassano and if Lippi pulls the strings in our mercato then we can forget him. If the Marrotta rumours are true then the Cassano rumours will be intense. There's always Zarate but what will Lotito ask aside form Giovinco and cie? This could be another Udinese saga all over again. There's always the freebies we could look at like Chamakh and Pandev.

    That's for the post DP era. We should look for a finisher also when Trez leaves.
     

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Suárez_(footballer)

    A nice footballer. Not another smurf from South America and scores constantly for the past couple of years. I like him.

    Agüero would take most of our budget while we should invest it primarily on a RB. Cassano is Cassano and if Lippi pulls the strings in our mercato then we can forget him. If the Marrotta rumours are true then the Cassano rumours will be intense. There's always Zarate but what will Lotito ask aside form Giovinco and cie? This could be another Udinese saga all over again. There's always the freebies we could look at like Chamakh and Pandev.

    That's for the post DP era. We should look for a finisher also when Trez leaves.
    if he is an ok player, then why not...

    i hope cassano stays where he is. no place for him in a well balanced team. zarante, won't be my dream move either. the guy is a good player but nothing extraordinary.

    pandev will be good. especially if he is for free. chamakh is way overrated for me and i don't want him here.

    anyway. it's a little early to speak for transfers from now. we are at the beginning and we are talking about things that will happen in 9 months time. still the questions that have to be answered are a lot.

    will treza find his form again or not???
    will amauri find his scoring form again???
    will del have a good season or he will be injured all the time??
    can gio play our amc role when diego is out??
    can momo combine well with melo and marchisio/camo???
    can caceres be good as a rb/cb??
    can grosso be good or he is only a short term solution??

    these questions and many others in the 2009-2010 season :lol: :lol: :lol:
     

    j0ker

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    it's going to be either Secco's Mastermind or Raineri's Dumbness to convince Roma that Molinaro is better than Mexes and make a swap deal..

    :snoop:
     

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    it's going to be either Secco's Mastermind or Raineri's Dumbness to convince Roma that Molinaro is better than Mexes and make a swap deal..

    :snoop:
    if this happens, then ranieri is a juventino, the whole thing was fake and he went to rome to convince them to make the trade.

    in addition to this we can trade poulsen for de rossi, tiago for Vučinić and motta for grygera.
     

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    next year he will be 26 and he is playing here since 2005. he has played in cl when he was 20 and before this he had one full year in fiorentina. in addition to this he has gained his starting position in italy some years before. he has a lot of experience and i can see him being our commanding cb.
    I'm not saying Chiellini is anything other than a very good defender.

    However, I don't get the impression that he is ready to take on the responsibility of organising others in the defence as well as doing his own duties.
     

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    no, no, no.. it's all about Fiorentina, weak Roma and make the CL qualifying for them easier... (you know Secco works for them)
    if the way to help fiorentina is by trading mexes with molinaro, i am all in for it.

    is something like this happens in january, mexes will be able to play in the champions league knock out stage if i am not mistaken. i think that it matters only if the player has played in the same competition.

    i will say something that i thought i wouldn't say again but, come on ranieri do you miracle. sent mexes away and keep burdisso the super player...
     

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    I'm not saying Chiellini is anything other than a very good defender.

    However, I don't get the impression that he is ready to take on the responsibility of organising others in the defence as well as doing his own duties.
    chiellini now is only a very good defender not a world class one right now. that is true. however a player can fulfill his potential ability when he has to cope with a lot of responsibility.

    so if we sign another experienced defender, we will never give chiellini the chance to prove if he can be a great defender or if he just is a good one.

    the fact is though that till now anytime that he had to play alone with bad or medium defenders around him, he did great. remember that he used to play alongside with legro, grygera and molinaro. and he manged to carry the wait of our whole defensive line. so we have seen in him some potential, we should give him the chance to prove it...
     

    Red

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    I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing.

    Right now, Legrottaglie or Cannavaro is the organiser of the defence. They are the one that other take their position from and make the offside calls.

    I is easier to do that as a player like Legrottaglie who is more of a sweeper type player, than if you are a CB who goes out to attack the ball like Chiellini does.

    Chiellini is already the main/best defender, but I don't think he is well suited to organising others because of his style of play.
     

    Hust

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    Chiellni is the destroyer of the fleet. Canna/Legro are the aircraft carriers (less mobile) calling the shots...when needed they dispatch the destroyer(Killini) on missions where heavy artillery are needed. Destroyers are quicker and more mobile....aircraft carriers when needed can pack quite a punch. It is the destroyer that takes orders and the carriers that give them

    :snoop:


    Could be the worse analogy ever:sergio:

    I need to relate modern day football the Milton Bradleys "Battleship"
     

    Ahmed

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    Sep 3, 2006
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    Top Gun fanboy :sergio:

    anyway, I see the organiser qualities in Bocchetti, he really impressed me last season with his performances for Genoa and the U21...if it was between him and Kjaer, I'd definitely go for Bocchi
     
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