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Jem83

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No No..

Thing is, we all agree TO SOME EXTENT

Because I criticize Capello when he makes wrong decisions, and you know this

But I have 3 or 4 guys here now who want me to agree to that this man is a complete moron, and I won't

Because you all know deep inside that it is not the case

He has won things throughout his career and we've been sitting on top of the league ever since his arrival.
I'm not saying it's ENTIRELY because of him, but he CAN'T BE an idiot.

Call him a deteriorating coach, that's ok

Call him OK, AVERAGE.. Say that you would like for him to be replaced.

I might be the only one, and that's fine with me, but I find this "Crapello", "He's in a gay relationship with Zlatan", "My little brother could do a better job", "People on this forum could do a better job" very childish

I must be allowed to feel this way
 

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Hambon

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Apr 22, 2005
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Espectro said:
The main thing here is that with the current squad that we have, there are ALOT of coaches that would have done 10 times better than Capello.
Alot is not the word bro......ALL would fit better.

With this seasons squad anyone of us could have done a better job than Capello....without a doubt he is to blame....he got his wishlist complete with viera and still couldnt do a damn thing....A make over is needed this summer, The first thing on the agenda is Capello out!!
 

Espectro

The Grimreaper
Jul 12, 2002
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Jem83 said:
No No..

Thing is, we all agree TO SOME EXTENT

Because I criticize Capello when he makes wrong decisions, and you know this

But I have 3 or 4 guys here now who want me to agree to that this man is a complete moron, and I won't

Because you all know deep inside that it is not the case

He has won things throughout his career and we've been sitting on top of the league ever since his arrival.
I'm not saying it's ENTIRELY because of him, but he CAN'T BE an idiot.

Call him a deteriorating coach, that's ok

Call him OK, AVERAGE.. Say that you would like for him to be replaced.

I might be the only one, and that's fine with me, but I find this "Crapello", "He's in a gay relationship with Zlatan", "My little brother could do a better job", "People on this forum could do a better job" very childish

I must be allowed to feel this way
let me check... hummm... nop, sorry nothing inside here, still think he is crap :D
 

Jem83

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Espectro said:
yes, probably there will... but that doesnt take the fact the he is crap :D
Well ok, Espectro

But answer me this:

Do you only value the CL?

Cuz if that's the only thing you care about, I can understand why you're pissed :)
 

Espectro

The Grimreaper
Jul 12, 2002
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Jem83 said:
Well ok, Espectro

But answer me this:

Do you only value the CL?

Cuz if that's the only thing you care about, I can understand why you're pissed :)


Espectro said:
Oh sure, so maybe you are ok with Juventus playing like crap and wining the title by one point, maybe you are ok with seen your team been the assclown of Europe.

But for some of us, this is not enough, for some of us, playing soccer matters, for some of us, Juventus is more than a Minimum effort team.

You spoke about the tradition of the team, well this team lost the tradition, this team is not the shadow of the team that SHOULD be, with the players that Capello has, this team should be in the C.L finals, and had won the scudetto by now, and now, we are out of the CL and our scudetto is on a balance... but again, everything is fine if we win the scudetto by one point rigth?


P.S: We havent win anything yet, and they way we are playing we migth as well lose the scudetto

I dont care only about CL, what I care is that my team play consistent soccer, what I care is that my team wins respect in Europe not be the clow of Europe, if we had been eliminate of the CL playing good soccer I wouldnt be mad, but the way we were eliminate was a joke to us the fans, what I care is that my team play good soccer. what I care is that my team dont blow away a 11 point advantage and now makes me worry about the posibility of losing the title, that title that one month ago was not just a posibility was a fact.

To me wining a scudetto playing crap soccer is not enogh, as a matter of fact, if we managed to win this scudetto, I will not be happy, I will be relief.

Im mad becouse these team was supoust to be a great team, this team was built to be a force, and now is just an average team.
 

Jem83

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Espectro said:
I dont care only about CL, what I care is that my team play consistent soccer, what I care is that my team wins respect in Europe not be the clow of Europe, if we had been eliminate of the CL playing good soccer I would be mad, but the way we were eliminate was a joke to us the fans, what I care is that my team play good soccer. what I care is that my team dont blow away a 11 point advantage and now makes me worry about the posibility of losing the title, that title that one month ago was not just a posibility was a fact.

To me wining a scudetto playing crap soccer is not enogh, as a matter of fact, if we managed to win this scudetto, I will not be happy, I will be relief.

Im mad becouse these team was supoust to be a great team, this team was built to be a force, and now is just an average team.
You have every right to be mad
 

sateeh

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Jul 28, 2003
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well i read this thread for like 3 pages now, this debate between the three of u guys...here is wat i think.

-first point is , if cap isn't adequate for the job...who is?this question wasnt answered yet and i would like to hear some suggestions.

cap was brought after a very bad season and there was nothing promising after that season at all.Before cap came the names that were on the table were Deschamps and Prandelli if i remember correctly..Would've any of those brought instant success to the team? i can honestly say, it may happen but i dont think so. Cap was brought cause he has the same mentality that this team has, which is the winning mentality. His style could be different but he certainly has the right mentality and thats very important imo.So i think he still precerves some of that juve culture.

The thing that concerns me is that nobody is talking about last season? its all about this season.
Last season we were carried on by players like manuele blasi( who nobody likes here for some reason) and zebina, DP was back to form and there were many positves from that season.But still there isnt any credit for the guy.

the comments made that cap only relies on his players and has no game plan or nothing are just uncalled for. Ur players can get u out of some games but not almost two successful seasons.
And i have to say that the same comments can be made about almost every coach in the world..

About cap's adaptebility in his game plan... i agree that he isnt very flexi-able in his formations, but isnt that the same with many good coaches at the moment? Ancelloti didnt change his formation once this season, mourinho didnt change his 451 until against westham which just like a couple of weeks ago, Benetiz didnt change his formation for two years now, same goes for magath ? Aren't they inflexiable too ?
His system is different but can one say that this system failed 100%?it established that 11 point advantage that everyone. Did the system squander the advantage? mybe but i dont think so, there were some other contributory factors.

ppl r talking about how great this squad is.even comparing it for squads like chelsea and barca. I will have to disagree there. We have a great starting 11 but in some places we lack some depth.And certainly we cant be compared to teams like barca or chelsea.

Abt the CL ... i remember a friend of mine telling me that ur team is very unlucky to face two english teams in two years.
After i thought abt it, i was thinking the same thing... as we do have a very bad record against english teams.
But thats not an excuse,the team did play badly and cap takes some of the blame.
Also why werent that coaches after 1996 and before cap prosecuted for their failures? we didnt win CL and even some years we played badly.How come they r saints and he is the devil ?

abt our current form and dropping of 11 points margin. Well i always stated that cap's biggest mistake was the lack of rotation in the squad. And that consequedntly lead to the team being tired and finally to the drop of form.

And jeeks talked abt why didnt other team get tired? well ancelotti used some different players but his system doesnt require that much of running and closing down.Not as much as cap's system i reckon. Also milan had their feet off the pedal for a long time in the season while juve were up and running.

finally to calling him a moron or watever names ppl here would like to... is he a coach deteriorating ? not yet i dont think so, well i guess we will see next season. Is he a moron or watever? certainly not, his record just speaks for him.
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
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Jeeks said:
Mourinho has won the UEFA cup and the CL with Porto. Both his CL exists with Chelsea were a respected exit, not an exit without any fight or effort. You cannot compare Jose with Capello because the latter is not knowledgeable half as much as Mourinho is.
i will have to disagree with u there.. this year a great barca side made his side look like little kids and just demolished them. A chelsea squad which is considered by many to be the best in the world.

Last year, their exit on the hand's of liver was almost the same as ours. 1-0,0-0
they couldnt score one goal against them
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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sateeh said:
i will have to disagree with u there.. this year a great barca side made his side look like little kids and just demolished them. A chelsea squad which is considered by many to be the best in the world.

Last year, their exit on the hand's of liver was almost the same as ours. 1-0,0-0
they couldnt score one goal against them
Demolished??? How do you call that a demolition? Barcelona won the game in Stamford Bridge after Chelsea were one man down in one of the worst calls possible. The red card is just wrong. In Barcelona, the result was a 1 - 1. I don't see this as demolition. As Mourinho said, Barcelona CANNOT win over Chelsea when they are playing 11 vs. 11.

Last year, even if they couldn't score against they were fighting for it. Where did you see Juve fighting for a goal in the CL? Against Arsenal in Highbury or in Delle Alpi. Or right maybe against Liverpool in Torino when they started to attack in the 75th minute.

The difference between Mourinho's Chelsea and Capello's Juventus is that the first team tries to make their fans proud where the other team just SHAMES the fans.
 

Jem83

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I felt no shame at Anfield last season

I felt injustice

The home game was a dissapointment, but Liverpool were STRONG

They ended up as winners of the tournament ffs

And this year, maybe Arsenal will !!

What's shameful about crashing out to the Champions?
 
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