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Actually, if anything, I thought the whole Ahn Jung Hwan speed-skating simulation incident backfired big time. If anything, it showed that a lot of Koreans were holding grudges over something nearly all Americans either forgot about or didn't care about. It was as if the Japan NT scored against the U.S. and started simulating George H. W. Bush vomiting on the lap of Prime Minister Kiichi Miyazawa.

At least then that would have been funny and not a petty grudge.
 

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    ++ [ originally posted by Padovano ] ++
    Gray, Korea is the ONE nation that cannot complain about anything. How many World Cup games were fixed in their favor? Disallowed game-winning goals by Italy and Spain in the knock-out rounds??? And Korea wants to complain about sporting irregularities. LOL.
    :rolleyes: we're talking about the Olympics here, and you're bringing up the World Cup again. So every time Korea gets robbed of anything in a sporting event, the whole world can just say "well Korea got some favourable calls back in 2002, so it's poetic justice", right? :blah:

    The Paul Hamm incident wasn't a matter of people having different opinions about 'whether he was offside' or 'whether the ball was out', it was a case of the whole world (including Americans themselves) knowing that one athlete clearly performed better than another. The Korean gymnast performed his whole routine to perfection and got a score of 9.4, while Hamm fell flat on his face and got 9.1 That's more than just a 'sporting irregularity', my friend.

    But since you want to discuss the World Cup... I've been over the Italy thing too many times around here, but I notice you mentioned Spain, and in another thread you brought up Portugal too. In the match against Spain, in the 'goal' that was disallowed, the referee had already blown the whistle and the Korean defenders stopped playing the game, so you can't say that the Spaniards would have scored if the ball had stayed in, because they kept on playing the game when the referee called the ball out.

    As for the match against Portugal, it's the first time that I've heard that the referees were bribed in that match. Pinto's straight red card was well deserved; that was a potentially career-ending tackle. He wrapped his legs around the Korean player from behind FFS. The second red card was simply a matter of a player making two stupid challenges and getting his due reward.

    ++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++
    Actually, if anything, I thought the whole Ahn Jung Hwan speed-skating simulation incident backfired big time. If anything, it showed that a lot of Koreans were holding grudges over something nearly all Americans either forgot about or didn't care about.
    Well of course all Americans forgot about it and didn't care, but that's because they went home with the medal. I don't remember the last time America was robbed of a medal in a similar fashion (though I'm sure it's probably happened).

    You have to remember as well, that Korea has been America's foothold in the whole Asian region for a long time, and they've always felt bullied by America saying "hey, if you mess around, we'll withdraw our military presence from South Korea and you'll get your asses invade; Seoul will fall in 2 hours without us", so it's not just a matter of a stupid medal at the Winter Olympics. I don't necessarily agree with the anti-American sentiment that's so prevalent in Korea, but maybe that's because I'm so detached from the things that happen over there, like American soldiers running over two Korean schoolgirls with a tank. So before you start saying that Koreans hold "petty grudges", please try to look at the whole situation through the scope of a nation of people who feel used and bullied by the States.
     

    KB824

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    Gray, I'm sure there have been instances where the US has been robbed of a medal, but I have to tell you something. After all of the initial furor, no one even remembers, or even cares. The USA-USSR screwjob in '72 non-withstanding, but then again, if it was against Spain or Yugoslavia, then it wouldn't resonante the way it still does today

    The olympics don't mean as much anymore in this country. They used to mean a lot more during the Cold War era, when the US had a legitimate rival in the USSR, and to a lesser extent, China.

    Now, despite the fact that China closed the gap a little this time around, it still didn't have the passion of Olympics gone by.


    Right or Wrong, that's the general thought process.



    Thank God for Jennie Finch, that's all I can say.
     

    The Pado

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    Gray, against Spain, I dispute that the ref blew the whistle (He did not blow the whistle), and even if he did, the ball was already in the back of the net before he could have possibly stopped blowing the whistle. So, your "the defenders stopped playing" defense is 100% hollow.

    However, I do like your idea of bringing this up every time Korea gets robbed in sport. I'm glad you suggested it. :D
     
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    i heard a rumour about lithuanian basketball that well could have been the factor behind the shitty performances against italy and the usa. supposedly, just before the italian game two leaders of our team #6, macijauskas, the cuy with the long hair, and #13, jasikevicius, the guy that killed america in the group game with 10 points in 69 seconds. therefore they almost didnt feature on the pitch at the same time together.and naturally it affected teams morale. little ****s.
     

    KB824

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    ++ [ originally posted by Padovano ] ++
    Gray, against Spain, I dispute that the ref blew the whistle (He did not blow the whistle), and even if he did, the ball was already in the back of the net before he could have possibly stopped blowing the whistle. So, your "the defenders stopped playing" defense is 100% hollow.

    However, I do like your idea of bringing this up every time Korea gets robbed in sport. I'm glad you suggested it. :D

    I heard the Korean chef in the latest installment of "Iron Chef" got screwed big time recently.


    They didn't give him enough Salsa, and he was disqualified.


    More news at 11:00
     

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