The Official Dario Knezevic Thread (10 Viewers)

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Sir Psycho Sexy

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Sep 19, 2008
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he isnt a very good defender but the goal wasnt really his fault it was the super luck of lavezzi ... knez tried clearing it but it hit lavezzi and he scored very very luckyly... still knez shouldnt play as a starter ... stay a backup
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
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we needed a quality defender this summer so the board gave us this guy,

Thanks lads :pint:
No, no, no...Mellberg was the quality defender they got us...and he was free :juventus:. Another bargain signing by SUCKO. :weee:

i know what ever happened to that buy ? ... he would have been a much better back up!
He would have been a starter after some time if he's really got the quality he supposedly has. He would have been a good long-term investment.
 

V

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Jun 8, 2005
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Our problems aren't the Knezevic's, Molinaro's and Salihamidzic's, players of such calibre were always present in our team and are in every other big club. They are called back-up players and are here to patch things up when necessary. Putting all the blame on them is idiotic.

Our problem is the lack of Cannavaro's, Thuram's and Zambrotta's. So I really don't get all the constant bashing of these average players. What it all comes down to is the incomptence of the board and manager who chose to ignore our biggest problems.
 

sateeh

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Jul 28, 2003
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Our problems aren't the Knezevic's, Molinaro's and Salihamidzic's, players of such calibre were always present in our team and are in every other big club. They are called back-up players and are here to patch things up when necessary. Putting all the blame on them is idiotic.

Our problem is the lack of Cannavaro's, Thuram's and Zambrotta's. So I really don't get all the constant bashing of these average players. What it all comes down to is the incomptence of the board and manager.
exactly. These are a couple of technical mistakes, they just happen. Chiellini cost us a goal against catania and i didn't see this herald of insults.

This team's backbone is the problem, its either not delivering or simply not present because of various reasons.
 

V

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exactly. These are a couple of technical mistakes, they just happen. Chiellini cost us a goal against catania and i didn't see this herald of insults.

This team's backbone is the problem, its either not delivering or simply not present because of various reasons.
It's both. But lack of quality is evident more than ever, especially in the defense department. Legrotaglie improved from his horenduos self but is still far from a quality CB, Chiellini is pretty good but he needs to learn a lot still, Molinaro is poor man's De Ceglie and De Ceglie is a poor man's Zambrotta, Grygera is again average and Zebina is a class above him. Having any of Knezevic, Mellberg, Molinaro, Salihamidzic or Grygera, wouldn't be half as bad if we had quality guys in the first place. Our whole back-line is average.

Coupled with the obvious lack of a creative spark in the midfield and some of our underachieving stars, we simply suck.
 

Cronios

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Jun 7, 2004
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The determination of some of our players did, not him!!
As i pointed out then...

He tried hard to amputate our team, even them, but our players wanted to prove smth, with this factor out of equation, CR "skills" are most obvious than ever...
 

sateeh

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Jul 28, 2003
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It's both. But lack of quality is evident more than ever, especially in the defense department. Legrotaglie improved from his horenduos self but is still far from a quality CB, Chiellini is pretty good but he needs to learn a lot still, Molinaro is poor man's De Ceglie and De Ceglie is a poor man's Zambrotta, Grygera is again average and Zebina is a class above him. Having any of Knezevic, Mellberg, Molinaro, Salihamidzic or Grygera, wouldn't be half as bad if we had quality guys in the first place. Our whole back-line is average.

Coupled with the obvious lack of a creative spark in the midfield and some of our underachieving stars, we simply suck.
Yes it is very sad, as a fan i was always proud to have great names in defense but now we have this. The problem is that we didn't a lot of changes over the past two years but we didn't see anything.

The determination of some of our players did, not him!!
As i pointed out then...

He tried hard to amputate our team, even them, but our players wanted to prove smth, with this factor out of equation, CR "skills" are most obvious than ever...
I agree with you on, but CR gets credit for a couple of wins and positive results. I distinctly remember the first Inter game where we actually outplayed them tactically.
 

dogsarecute

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Aug 7, 2008
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exactly. These are a couple of technical mistakes, they just happen. Chiellini cost us a goal against catania and i didn't see this herald of insults.

This team's backbone is the problem, its either not delivering or simply not present because of various reasons.
That is very true. Players like Nedved, Chiellini and Mellberg have cost us games in which we are either comfortably leading or should have won. Camoranesi has not been his self and the other first choice CB is out for the season.
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
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You know what they say, even a broken watch indicates the right time, twice a day...

The fierce/extra determination of our old champions, who have been in hell came back from the dead/fallen, can easily change the odds and overwhelm our opponents, making it look like a tactical ownage.
Combine that with some injury problems had, some internal heavy crisis Milan faced and the lack of a proper coach for Inter and you can easily do the maths.

Against much more inferior teams, with lesser material and coaches,
without this extra determination, our team struggled, esp at the last part of the season, after x-mas,
when our position was somewhat consolidated and our champions proved their point!


Neddy and probably DP, roared for the last time,
respectively defensively and offensively,
their individual brilliance made the difference many times over.
This year they are both one year older and less determined, they proved that even without Moggi, they can make the difference.
This year they are a part of a supposedly more complete/competent team.
They are not unique components who cant be replaced, Amauri and Giovinco can help them curry the weight and they only act as tactical pieces and not as saviors.
This very reason revealed CR's tactical scheme and our lack of tactical plan...

The team only responds to CR's will, but despite having even better+more tools,
we have worse results...
 

cublinks

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Apr 8, 2008
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Our problems aren't the Knezevic's, Molinaro's and Salihamidzic's, players of such calibre were always present in our team and are in every other big club. They are called back-up players and are here to patch things up when necessary. Putting all the blame on them is idiotic.

Our problem is the lack of Cannavaro's, Thuram's and Zambrotta's. So I really don't get all the constant bashing of these average players. What it all comes down to is the incomptence of the board and manager who chose to ignore our biggest problems.
totaalllyyy agreee.... Is any of the called "back up players" playing tonite?? I think they are all considering the master tactician claudio ranieri prefers them rather the on form players like deceglie...
cheers for you ranieri, not with beers but with gasoline and a lighter... Do we have that emoticon?
 

v1rtu4l

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Mar 4, 2008
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please do not mention ivanovic anymore ...

1. he was not for sale (the reason milan did not want him)
2. he was not available for a loan with buy-out clause
3. he is unexperienced and the fact he did not make 2 games for chelsea got to mean something

if we took him on loan the only ones that would benefit from that were chelsea.

ivanovic would make his first team experiences with us (including making n00b mistakes that have to happen, when you are new in a league) and after gaining experience they would take him back and we would have paid for a defender that is immature and did do his mistakes with us just to become a better player for chelsea.

no thanks
 
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