the new,improved,updated and completely irrelevant 2009-Cassano to Juve thread (7 Viewers)
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I agree Giovinco should be played more, but it is pretty clear that Ranieri prefers to strengthen his defence so Nedved is always there. Giovinco isn't a right winger so he cannot replace Marchionni, even if he had 2 assists against BATE. We expected him to play in the Coppa only anyway, so he has certainly been given chances, and he will have more next year.
As for a coach accommodating his tactics to suit a player, no good coach will ever do that. Alex Ferguson doesn't always play Rooney in his SS role; Benitez plays Kuyt at right wing. The player should adapt to the coach's tactics.
As for a coach accommodating his tactics to suit a player, no good coach will ever do that. Alex Ferguson doesn't always play Rooney in his SS role; Benitez plays Kuyt at right wing. The player should adapt to the coach's tactics.
But in this case, Mr Ruineri's tactics aren't really working, so why not change the formation and see what happens?!
I mean playing Giovinco behind Delpie and Amauri could work wonders, while adopting a 3 man midfield of Nedved, Marchisio, and Sissoko. After all, you paly 4-4-2 when you have solid wingers and fullbacks or wingbacks, and that is something we direly lack. None of our 4 players on the flanks can cross, or take on opponents anymore, except for Camo who is constantly injured.
I mean playing Giovinco behind Delpie and Amauri could work wonders, while adopting a 3 man midfield of Nedved, Marchisio, and Sissoko. After all, you paly 4-4-2 when you have solid wingers and fullbacks or wingbacks, and that is something we direly lack. None of our 4 players on the flanks can cross, or take on opponents anymore, except for Camo who is constantly injured.
well he did start there only 2 or 3 games and one of them was Chievo of the first round mentioned higher. so i think it's a bit too early to say that Giovinco is crap as a ss, it's not the easiest role in juve you know and as far as i can remember, he did just fine. 
it's probably the position he will be playing in the coming years if we don't change our playing system drastically and such role as supporting striker dissapears suddenly 
it's probably the position he will be playing in the coming years if we don't change our playing system drastically and such role as supporting striker dissapears suddenly 
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Just one game Ahmed. You can't render the formation a failure. How effective has the 4-4-2 been, and how many games have we lost?
True, but even when we were playing 4-4-2 we were not entirely convincing. We were under pressure for the last 15 minutes against Lecce of all teams, and yet again conceded at the death.
We have the players to play other formations. We need time to ensure these formations work. However, how can you expect them to work when our numskull of a coach is insistent on playing only 4-4-2, and only changes formations when he is forced to or when things are not going well?
We have the players to play other formations. We need time to ensure these formations work. However, how can you expect them to work when our numskull of a coach is insistent on playing only 4-4-2, and only changes formations when he is forced to or when things are not going well?
Whenever we play 4-3-3, we lose control of the midfield and the whole team is in disarray.
Certainly, but if he does not perform, then we will have a crappy defence and attack. At least with Amauri and Iaquinta, we are certain to score so the attack is still good. Some preseason training may do him good but if you want wins, I doubt it is wise to play him as SS this season. He is young so he has the scope to improve.
well he did start there only 2 or 3 games and one of them was Chievo of the first round mentioned higher. so i think it's a bit too early to say that Giovinco is crap as a ss, it's not the easiest role in juve you know and as far as i can remember, he did just fine. it's probably the position he will be playing in the coming years if we don't change our playing system drastically and such role as supporting striker dissapears suddenly
it's probably the position he will be playing in the coming years if we don't change our playing system drastically and such role as supporting striker dissapears suddenly
Nop !! he played numerous times in Nedved and Alex position but he can't be the man in any of these places due to 2 things still you are blind to see ....
Lack of Defending abilities in Nedved position ...
Lack of physical abilities as Alex or plymaker position ....
Can't you
..otherwise you are just your nose is just up for your point view ..
Lack of Defending abilities in Nedved position ...
Lack of physical abilities as Alex or plymaker position ....
Can't you
..otherwise you are just your nose is just up for your point view ..
Numerous times? How many Juve games have you seen this season?
Giovinco failed to impress only on one or two occasions, and even then, he was not out worst player.
Why does he have to defend? He is an attack minded player. Do you see Messi assisting the defense, or Silva tracking back to help? Don't tell me because Serie A is different and all that blah blah blah. We don't need 8 players backtracking and helping the defense, and Marchionni doesn't defend!
I am not saying he has to replace Del Piero per se; Why are you so rigid with tactics and formation? He can play in a slightly more advanced role than Nedved, but more central and withdrawn than Del Piero.
Giovinco failed to impress only on one or two occasions, and even then, he was not out worst player.
Why does he have to defend? He is an attack minded player. Do you see Messi assisting the defense, or Silva tracking back to help? Don't tell me because Serie A is different and all that blah blah blah. We don't need 8 players backtracking and helping the defense, and Marchionni doesn't defend!
I am not saying he has to replace Del Piero per se; Why are you so rigid with tactics and formation? He can play in a slightly more advanced role than Nedved, but more central and withdrawn than Del Piero.
No..Alex at his day...will sure be better than Gio and for the million times ...Gio lack the physical strength to play in this position he can't decide a match like Alex and sometimes when half Alex plays ...he better than full Gio !!! Gio need time but plz away from Juve .....
As Gio did help in some games but he failed in others even by his mouth he said i can't be Nedved ( attack and defend ) or Alex ( playing in his position ) .....
I agree with you all, he needs sometime to be a star but plz, away from Juve and tell then...he can come back to play in Alex or anyone position ...
As Gio did help in some games but he failed in others even by his mouth he said i can't be Nedved ( attack and defend ) or Alex ( playing in his position ) .....
I agree with you all, he needs sometime to be a star but plz, away from Juve and tell then...he can come back to play in Alex or anyone position ...
All of them .... and i meant by numerous ( at least 10 games ) ...
Gio as a whole didn't impress....he needs time to mature ....he isn't the worst as Grygera...but he didn't prove himself in the position mentioned ....it's not enough one time or two times of show .....and the way to have time is out of Juve ...we need to win something ...i need a super star in LMF or super supporting striker not a kid under process to learn ...
Am not rigid..Gio played in 4 3 1 2 and he failed due to his low physical strength
Gio as a whole didn't impress....he needs time to mature ....he isn't the worst as Grygera...but he didn't prove himself in the position mentioned ....it's not enough one time or two times of show .....and the way to have time is out of Juve ...we need to win something ...i need a super star in LMF or super supporting striker not a kid under process to learn ...
Am not rigid..Gio played in 4 3 1 2 and he failed due to his low physical strength