the new,improved,updated and completely irrelevant 2009-Cassano to Juve thread (3 Viewers)

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
No i meant it, you just had to look to last year to see that he's still that spoilt little brat he always was and always will be.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,317
No i meant it, you just had to look to last year to see that he's still that spoilt little brat he always was and always will be.
Yes, but his impact on the team is no longer negative. People expect him to act that way.

Oh and just for the record, Cassano is not a spoilt little brat. He was poor in Bari and when you're poor in Bari, you're poor.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
Yes, but his impact on the team is no longer negative. People expect him to act that way.

Oh and just for the record, Cassano is not a spoilt little brat. He was poor in Bari and when you're poor in Bari, you're poor.
I'm aware of his poor background. Does not take away the fact he has become a spoilt little brat, who'd cry, moan, whine and throw his little tantrums when things don't go his way.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,317
I'm aware of his poor background. Does not take away the fact he has become a spoilt little brat, who'd cry, moan, whine and throw his little tantrums when things don't go his way.
He earned everything he has himself. How is that spoilt?
 

DudebuD

Junior Member
Jul 6, 2007
295
This made me chuckle...It appears fine to refer to del piero as pinturicchio, and often on these boards as DP...yet I wonder, if signore del piero was here in attendance himself, if he would take such exception by been called Sandro....I have two cousins and one friend who are all italians, and whom are all called, often, Sandro for a shortened version of Alessandro...To say I don't know the first thing about Juventus because I can't be bothered to type Alessandro, is indicative of a horridly mentally enfeebled character, who bases more on official forum nicknames than real life nicknames...Great call, Seven... I'm sure the great man would be fine with 'ciao DP, come stai'. and react to 'ciao sandro, come stai' with suitable disgust...
My name is Alessandro as well and the only person that calls me Sandro is my sister. Its either Ale or Alex, especially in Italy, Sandro is raaaarely used, just fyi.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
What's the theory behind the fast increase in size of Cassano threads?
Its 3 threads combined into cassano's thread perhaps...either silva this, diego that, someday ribery, some like cassano....all those players get thrown into the mix:D
 

Lo-Pan

Disciple of Gonzo
Feb 11, 2009
2,788
No, it's not. A few examples:

A Liverpool fan knows it's Stevie.
A Juventus fan knows it's Ale.
A Sampdoria fan knows it sometimes is Fantantonio.

You cannot call Stevie Steve-o.
You cannot call Ale Sandro.
You cannot call Fantantonio Totò.

And what do you mean PERHAPS then I could argue? Dear god, if someone would call him Del Totti I wouldn't argue at all with the guy. I'd kill him.
I have heard scousers call Stevie or Steven (both absolutely fine to use), Steve-o...I doubt you would hear many southerners (english southerners) calling him anything but steve, stevie or steven, which all would be accepted as common and fine. But up north, there is a more common habit of shortening names and adding an O. Steve-O...Dam-O...Jon-O...These are adopted, normally, to indicate a sense of familiarity, of kinship, of affection, not just in football but in other areas of society also...So, your example of mr Gerrard, is a little off target. Because a player of his notoriety has all Steven related nicknames applied to him, and never, have I heard that a scouse or Liverpool supporter from elsewhere, has taken violent exception to any of the names I mentioned, getting used for their special one...

I am surprised that so many posts have been produced due to one child's mission of correction of such an obviously offensive error as I made originally. I don't correct the spelling of others on here, nor do I make an issue out of people using two letters, just the initials, to refer to players, not just of Juve, but of other clubs as well. As long as I know who they are referring to, its enough for me to respond, IF I HAVE ANYTHING OF NOTE TO ADD ABOUT FOOTBALL.

What do you want me to do, Seven...scream back at you 'i know more than you!, your turn now, sweety pie!!!!' or hold up my hands and say 'indeed, I've been rumbled, shown for the charlatan I really am....Guards, arrest me!'.

Since joining these forums in the recent past I have been greatly encouraged and intrigued by the intelligence, in footballing terms, and knowledge, of many of the regulars on here. But its clear, like with most forums, there is a element or five whose several thousand post count is made up more of puerile chest beating than useful debate.

Perhaps Seven was profoundly hurt by my suggestions of the Now been the beginning of the End for Del Piero, but rather than react with a solid argument rooted in his extensive knowledge of the club, he suddenly remembered he was but a delirious dullard, a pernicious parrot unable to construct sound argument or defend his beloved team captain with anything other than the cries of a baby blob fish.

My knowledge of Juventus is strong enough for me to enjoy debate with most forum members, at least those whose knowledge and understanding of the game stretches back to the early 90s, when I realized I was half sicilian, and began supporting the lads with the stripes who conjured images in my kid mind of heroic zebras. I was old enough only to want to realize my latin blood in some way, turned on channel four and the first team I liked was Juve... I am also well versed in the workings and history of the british game, having lived there most of my life.

Most of the posts I have made on juventuz.com, up until this point, have been lengthy, well concocted additions to the threads in question. I guess I could have avoided all of the above, as the forum members with whom I have brushed virtual shoulders already, are aware of my usefulness in debate, whether they agree with my opinions or not, they respond, intelligently to what I write, as I try to reply, in turn, to them.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
I have heard scousers call Stevie or Steven (both absolutely fine to use), Steve-o...I doubt you would hear many southerners (english southerners) calling him anything but steve, stevie or steven, which all would be accepted as common and fine. But up north, there is a more common habit of shortening names and adding an O. Steve-O...Dam-O...Jon-O...These are adopted, normally, to indicate a sense of familiarity, of kinship, of affection, not just in football but in other areas of society also...So, your example of mr Gerrard, is a little off target. Because a player of his notoriety has all Steven related nicknames applied to him, and never, have I heard that a scouse or Liverpool supporter from elsewhere, has taken violent exception to any of the names I mentioned, getting used for their special one...

I am surprised that so many posts have been produced due to one child's mission of correction of such an obviously offensive error as I made originally. I don't correct the spelling of others on here, nor do I make an issue out of people using two letters, just the initials, to refer to players, not just of Juve, but of other clubs as well. As long as I know who they are referring to, its enough for me to respond, IF I HAVE ANYTHING OF NOTE TO ADD ABOUT FOOTBALL.

What do you want me to do, Seven...scream back at you 'i know more than you!, your turn now, sweety pie!!!!' or hold up my hands and say 'indeed, I've been rumbled, shown for the charlatan I really am....Guards, arrest me!'.

Since joining these forums in the recent past I have been greatly encouraged and intrigued by the intelligence, in footballing terms, and knowledge, of many of the regulars on here. But its clear, like with most forums, there is a element or five whose several thousand post count is made up more of puerile chest beating than useful debate.

Perhaps Seven was profoundly hurt by my suggestions of the Now been the beginning of the End for Del Piero, but rather than react with a solid argument rooted in his extensive knowledge of the club, he suddenly remembered he was but a delirious dullard, a pernicious parrot unable to construct sound argument or defend his beloved team captain with anything other than the cries of a baby blob fish.

My knowledge of Juventus is strong enough for me to enjoy debate with most forum members, at least those whose knowledge and understanding of the game stretches back to the early 90s, when I realized I was half sicilian, and began supporting the lads with the stripes who conjured images in my kid mind of heroic zebras. I was old enough only to want to realize my latin blood in some way, turned on channel four and the first team I liked was Juve... I am also well versed in the workings and history of the british game, having lived there most of my life.

Most of the posts I have made on juventuz.com, up until this point, have been lengthy, well concocted additions to the threads in question. I guess I could have avoided all of the above, as the forum members with whom I have brushed virtual shoulders already, are aware of my usefulness in debate, whether they agree with my opinions or not, they respond, intelligently to what I write, as I try to reply, in turn, to them.

Shouldn't you have supported Palermo or Catania when you realised you were Sicilian?
 

Salvo

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Dec 17, 2007
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Shouldn't you have supported Palermo or Catania when you realised you were Sicilian?
funny thing that is, i am full sicilian and have supported juve from birth just as my whole family has. in sicily juve has an immense fan base. but i do like to see palermo and catania do well. but against juve i dont :p
 

Lo-Pan

Disciple of Gonzo
Feb 11, 2009
2,788
Shouldn't you have supported Palermo or Catania when you realised you were Sicilian?
I was too young to be aware back then of the importance of following roots to the ground nearest where my blood originates. I saw Kohler's intimidating tash, Julio Cesar's gangly dhalsim-esque legs, Moller's fearsome nazi posture and simply knew that Juve were for me.

It took me a few more years to get into english football, and by then, I was aware of the importance amongst supporters of having a grass roots link to your team. That is when I began following the steady misfortune of Gillingham Footbal Club.

Essentially, I have no problem with people from far away from their team's base, supporting that team. What matters to me is that their support is constant and unwavering. That they know the team, the club, its recent history, and preferably some of its former history.

I would much rather have a decent conversation with a Manchester United supporter from Brighton, who knows what he is talking about, than exchange words with a Mancunian who 'supports' Man U, but whose knowledge doesn't extend further than 'We are the best!'.

What matter is loyalty, passion and knowledge. And given my support for juventus stretches back to the early 90s, when I was 11-12 years old, I do consider myself a true Juventino.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
No definitely, i agree. I mean you're talking to a Libyan who was raised in Glasgow, lives in the UAE and supports Arsenal :p
 

Salvo

J
Moderator
Dec 17, 2007
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I was too young to be aware back then of the importance of following roots to the ground nearest where my blood originates. I saw Kohler's intimidating tash, Julio Cesar's gangly dhalsim-esque legs, Moller's fearsome nazi posture and simply knew that Juve were for me.

It took me a few more years to get into english football, and by then, I was aware of the importance amongst supporters of having a grass roots link to your team. That is when I began following the steady misfortune of Gillingham Footbal Club.

Essentially, I have no problem with people from far away from their team's base, supporting that team. What matters to me is that their support is constant and unwavering. That they know the team, the club, its recent history, and preferably some of its former history.

I would much rather have a decent conversation with a Manchester United supporter from Brighton, who knows what he is talking about, than exchange words with a Mancunian who 'supports' Man U, but whose knowledge doesn't extend further than 'We are the best!'.

What matter is loyalty, passion and knowledge. And given my support for juventus stretches back to the early 90s, when I was 11-12 years old, I do consider myself a true Juventino.
hey mate what part of melbourne are you from? and also where in sicily :p
 

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