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++ [ originally posted by David Del Piero ] ++
It would be great. This maybe mean we will have these strikers:
Mutu
Zlatan
Cassano
Trezeguet
Zalayeta
And thus, we will play 4-3-3
-----Cassano--Zlatan/Trez --Mutu
----Nedved----Emerson---Camoranesi
Zambro--Canna--Thuram---?????Cassetti????
......................Buffon
It would be great. This maybe mean we will have these strikers:
Mutu
Zlatan
Cassano
Trezeguet
Zalayeta
And thus, we will play 4-3-3
-----Cassano--Zlatan/Trez --Mutu
----Nedved----Emerson---Camoranesi
Zambro--Canna--Thuram---?????Cassetti????
......................Buffon
u really think Cap would choose trez over Zlatan??
and btw, bench mutu and move Zlatan in his place.. thats what Cap would play, IF we really do sign Cassano...
I dunno why, but I just really like him
1. Mutu is still young(ish) and IMO has loads to offer
2. Gilardino might not perform even if he comes to Juve
3. Trezeguet is arguably the best finisher in the world, it's not essential to spend so much just to get Gila
What if we were to spend 20 mil + Mutu to get Gila, and he flops? It'd be much better to strengthen our defence and midfield, as Capello said. I think even 20 mil for Gila is pushing it, to sign a player in our strongest position.
1. Mutu is still young(ish) and IMO has loads to offer
2. Gilardino might not perform even if he comes to Juve
3. Trezeguet is arguably the best finisher in the world, it's not essential to spend so much just to get Gila
What if we were to spend 20 mil + Mutu to get Gila, and he flops? It'd be much better to strengthen our defence and midfield, as Capello said. I think even 20 mil for Gila is pushing it, to sign a player in our strongest position.
++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++
I dunno why, but I just really like him
1. Mutu is still young(ish) and IMO has loads to offer
2. Gilardino might not perform even if he comes to Juve
3. Trezeguet is arguably the best finisher in the world, it's not essential to spend so much just to get Gila
What if we were to spend 20 mil + Mutu to get Gila, and he flops? It'd be much better to strengthen our defence and midfield, as Capello said.
I dunno why, but I just really like him
1. Mutu is still young(ish) and IMO has loads to offer
2. Gilardino might not perform even if he comes to Juve
3. Trezeguet is arguably the best finisher in the world, it's not essential to spend so much just to get Gila
What if we were to spend 20 mil + Mutu to get Gila, and he flops? It'd be much better to strengthen our defence and midfield, as Capello said.
They are better at the time being and have space to grow, even better and much more than mutu, they are adapted to italian reality, they are on form, they are italian
2.neither mutu, i think cassano is the most prooven than the three of them
3.trezequet is good enough, but when he plays,
he is constantly injured, we need a reliable solution and we need to take care of the future, we wont have a talent around like gila the next 2years when we will need to permantly replace treze.(20mil+mutu obtained free isnt a lot of cash thinking that with the zlatan-gila duo we are done for the next 5years atleast upfront)
Yes, but I just don't think we need to spend the money on either of them at this point in time. Our attacking department is quite strong, so we shouldn't spend the large amount of money it would probably take to bring in either Cassano or Gila.
So is Mutu; he's been playing in Serie A for as long if not longer than the other two.
Irrelevant.
Be that as it may, we have Mutu, and that's what's important.
In any case, whether Cassano and Gila are better players, or whatever arguments can be made in their favour, the fact stands that Mutu is a Juventus player, while Cassano and Gila will take money to bring in, and the club doesn't seem to feel the need to adjust our attacking options at this point in time (quite rightly may I add)
So is Mutu; he's been playing in Serie A for as long if not longer than the other two.
Irrelevant.
Be that as it may, we have Mutu, and that's what's important.
In any case, whether Cassano and Gila are better players, or whatever arguments can be made in their favour, the fact stands that Mutu is a Juventus player, while Cassano and Gila will take money to bring in, and the club doesn't seem to feel the need to adjust our attacking options at this point in time (quite rightly may I add)
we have mutu, we have a base, but with 10-20mil more, we can have a better choice which is gonna lust 3more years and make us not to spend much more the next 2years.
If gila and cassano wont be prooved world class, (highly doubtable, since they allready are considered), their price tag will always be higher(than mutu's) and we can alway's swap them for another player of their talie, but if mutu prooves again(he failed at chelsea) he isnt world class and considering his age, there is no way to make the same money of him)
If u see it cold-fair, its for our interest to swap him for a10-20mil dif only.
On the other hand, -he can help us a lot to resolve our creative problems,
i believe more than Gila and almost as good as cassano.
-I believe he has the talent to be a juve starter and he is more valuable than other current starters, so we dont have to hurry and sell him and keep other more urgent problems as they are,
i agree we have other priorities to resolve and we sould think of them first.
-I m almost convinced his style of play fits more Italy than England and he will be much improoved in our team than he was in chelsea.
His unstabble caracter, a heavy problem,but is also a problem of the other2 competitors too.
And it will be bad for juve's fame to treat him as a pack of $ s and land him only to sell him away.
When he was free he could choose any team he wanted(he could choose parma or roma and go by him self there)that would be very bad to treat him like that,give him the hope to play to a big club like juventus(we had an eye on him even before the coca-incident and he stated honoured by the juve interest and that would be a dream to play for a great club like juve sometime in the future since he was a chelsea player) and then take it away without give him the mare chance just to try once and proove him self, that sounds very unfair(althought few clubs are as strong as juve and could protect him they way we can
and as for his carrier,we dont owe him that much as he had a game with juve's shirt and even won a title for his record)
But dont forget:
we have a rare oppurtunity to take advantage roma's and parma's bad condition and need for money,
if we dont take it now, we might loose it for ever,
80-90% of the specialists are convinced cassano and gila are borned to be world class stars.
Its extremely important for juve to find and use an italian symbol to past threw the DP era,
it may be irrelevant for u(and for me too,
but not for juve's policy),
mutu cant be that symbol(althought zidane and neddy where the best players Baggio's and DP's where in the italians fans hearts who pay the ticket and fund our team)
unless u believe he can be that symbol.
Its not that we badly need an attacker this year, but we wont have the chance to hunt Gila next year, we have to think for the future, not only one year further but 2-3.
If i was moggi:
-try to swap gila for mutu+20mil(get sure milan wont get him for less than 40-50mil)
-try and swap cassano for mutu+10mil(we can always sell cassano for20-30mil to inter-milan) cassano is a prooved talent, clearly better solution than mutu, those 10mil represent the dif of guality+3more years of play.
-if gila gets too expensive(more than 25mil+mutu) keep mutu, noone will accuse him he didnt try
-if cassano wont sign a new deal for roma, give mutu a chance and sign free cassano next year
If gila and cassano wont be prooved world class, (highly doubtable, since they allready are considered), their price tag will always be higher(than mutu's) and we can alway's swap them for another player of their talie, but if mutu prooves again(he failed at chelsea) he isnt world class and considering his age, there is no way to make the same money of him)
If u see it cold-fair, its for our interest to swap him for a10-20mil dif only.
On the other hand, -he can help us a lot to resolve our creative problems,
i believe more than Gila and almost as good as cassano.
-I believe he has the talent to be a juve starter and he is more valuable than other current starters, so we dont have to hurry and sell him and keep other more urgent problems as they are,
i agree we have other priorities to resolve and we sould think of them first.
-I m almost convinced his style of play fits more Italy than England and he will be much improoved in our team than he was in chelsea.
His unstabble caracter, a heavy problem,but is also a problem of the other2 competitors too.
And it will be bad for juve's fame to treat him as a pack of $ s and land him only to sell him away.
When he was free he could choose any team he wanted(he could choose parma or roma and go by him self there)that would be very bad to treat him like that,give him the hope to play to a big club like juventus(we had an eye on him even before the coca-incident and he stated honoured by the juve interest and that would be a dream to play for a great club like juve sometime in the future since he was a chelsea player) and then take it away without give him the mare chance just to try once and proove him self, that sounds very unfair(althought few clubs are as strong as juve and could protect him they way we can
and as for his carrier,we dont owe him that much as he had a game with juve's shirt and even won a title for his record)
But dont forget:
we have a rare oppurtunity to take advantage roma's and parma's bad condition and need for money,
if we dont take it now, we might loose it for ever,
80-90% of the specialists are convinced cassano and gila are borned to be world class stars.
Its extremely important for juve to find and use an italian symbol to past threw the DP era,
it may be irrelevant for u(and for me too,
but not for juve's policy),
mutu cant be that symbol(althought zidane and neddy where the best players Baggio's and DP's where in the italians fans hearts who pay the ticket and fund our team)
unless u believe he can be that symbol.
Its not that we badly need an attacker this year, but we wont have the chance to hunt Gila next year, we have to think for the future, not only one year further but 2-3.
If i was moggi:
-try to swap gila for mutu+20mil(get sure milan wont get him for less than 40-50mil)
-try and swap cassano for mutu+10mil(we can always sell cassano for20-30mil to inter-milan) cassano is a prooved talent, clearly better solution than mutu, those 10mil represent the dif of guality+3more years of play.
-if gila gets too expensive(more than 25mil+mutu) keep mutu, noone will accuse him he didnt try
-if cassano wont sign a new deal for roma, give mutu a chance and sign free cassano next year
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