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Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
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Yeah man. He is the Goat. Period. That ain't even a debate especially when people mention Lebron in the same sentence. That man is the greatest in his generation but here we talk about Mike. Different animal.

There are many amazing things about him. I just wish he had played more seasons.. The game of basketball lost many magical moments when he was away in his prime.
He’s in the 5-10 range right now, and if he totally flubs his Lakers tenure that’s where he stays.

I’ve got Jordan and Kareem as clear 1-2. Magic and Bird as 3-4. Then you could get into the range of players like Wilt, Bill Russell, Hakeem, Shaq, Duncan, Kobe, etc that Lebron is competing with in that 5-10 range.
 

KB824

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2003
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The left dice had five sides :rofl: dude really keeps trusting the wrong people all the time
I can't even imagine what they could have turned that logo into so that it would have been somewhat reasonable.

I really don't.

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It actually has 7 sides. Maybe it's a Dungeons and Dragons type of die.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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I can't even imagine what they could have turned that logo into so that it would have been somewhat reasonable.

I really don't.

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It actually has 7 sides. Maybe it's a Dungeons and Dragons type of die.
Best bet would’ve been laser removal.

:lol: I thought of the dungeons and dragons thing too
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
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He’s in the 5-10 range right now, and if he totally flubs his Lakers tenure that’s where he stays.

I’ve got Jordan and Kareem as clear 1-2. Magic and Bird as 3-4. Then you could get into the range of players like Wilt, Bill Russell, Hakeem, Shaq, Duncan, Kobe, etc that Lebron is competing with in that 5-10 range.
Bird @ 4? Way too high man :p

Kobe, Shaq, Oscar, Wilt, and Bill are all superior players and athletes to Birdy. Bird was definitely a winner and had that killer instinct, but he was limited as a player.

I agree with Jordan and Kareem at 1 and 2 tho. No complaints from me :D
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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Bird @ 4? Way too high man :p

Kobe, Shaq, Oscar, Wilt, and Bill are all superior players and athletes to Birdy. Bird was definitely a winner and had that killer instinct, but he was limited as a player.

I agree with Jordan and Kareem at 1 and 2 tho. No complaints from me :D
Oh dear god, no he was not limited as a player. Are you kidding me? There was nothing that man couldn't do on the court.

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Larry was a bad, BAD man
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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He was slow and nonathletic. His basketball skills were/are never in question, but I just wouldn't put him in my top 5.
For him to be absolutely unguardable in his prime, there had to be some semblance of athleticism there.

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Believe me. As a Lakers fan in the 80's that grew up on the Celtics-Lakers rivalry, no opposing player scared me, kept me up at night more than Larry Bird. Not Barkley, not Jordan, not Dr. J., not Hakeem, or Ewing.

It was Larry. And I live in New England, so I was surrounded by everything Larry Bird. I would literally go to the bathroom and vomit before each game of those NBA finals in 84, 85, and 87, I was so afraid of him.
 
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Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,498
Jesus Christ (No pun intended) I didn't know this


Fuck it. Let's get him anyway. Because as we all know, the one thing a person who has heart issues needs is more drama in his life.

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It's one thing dealing with egos. It's another thing dealing with someone like Irving. He's on another planet. A flat one, if you listen to him. Lance wouldn't be there next year anyway.
https://hoopshype.com/storyline/mark-jackson-warriors-relationship/

Read the timelines of quotes and such as they were happening back then, mainly diplomatic stuff but you can sense or read between the lines what a megalomaniac he was. Bogut brief snide remarks are the best lol


This is a bizarre example of how he was (Josh Collins was a younf depth player in their roster ):

When Jason Collins publicly announced his homosexuality in April 2013, Jackson told reporters, “I know Jason Collins; I know his family and am certainly praying for them.” This seemed particularly tone-deaf considering that Golden State COO Rick Welts, the first high-ranking sports executive to come out, worked in the same building. Welts says he approached Jackson and had “a nice conversation, like grown‑ups,” adding, “He knew how I felt, I knew how he felt. I’m sure he thought it was an opportunity to educate me, and I thought it was an opportunity to educate him.”

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Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Bird @ 4? Way too high man :p

Kobe, Shaq, Oscar, Wilt, and Bill are all superior players and athletes to Birdy. Bird was definitely a winner and had that killer instinct, but he was limited as a player.

I agree with Jordan and Kareem at 1 and 2 tho. No complaints from me :D
There’s no way Kobe or Shaq are over Bird. I think you’re ignoring just how dominant Bird was in the 80s. The only way you make an argument for Kobe is longevity, and for Shaq would be his 4-5 year prime where he was completely unstoppable. Aside from that, nah.

Bill and Wilt, an argument could be made... but it could also be argued that they dominated an era when they were just bigger and more athletic than a league full of mostly slobs.

Watch more 80s games, yo. Best basketball era of all time.
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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There’s no way Kobe or Shaq are over Bird. I think you’re ignoring just how dominant Bird was in the 80s. The only way you make an argument for Kobe is longevity, and for Shaq would be his 4-5 year prime where he was completely unstoppable. Aside from that, nah.

Bill and Wilt, an argument could be made... but it could also be argued that they dominated an era when they were just bigger and more athletic than a league full of mostly slobs.

Watch more 80s games, yo. Best basketball era of all time.

Larry was such a bad man, that in a game on the road against Portland, he told his teammates that he was going to play the first 3 quarters shooting with his left hand.


The mother fucker had 27 points after 3 quarters :lol:
 

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Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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I think Kareem is overrated because the rules when he played were so different that he was able to set all those records thus making him look a lot better.
 

acmilan

Plusvalenza Akbar
Nov 8, 2005
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Bird makes the all time trash talk team as well. All time stickman team. All time wants to win more than you and will fuck you and your mother up to do it team.

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He’s in the 5-10 range right now, and if he totally flubs his Lakers tenure that’s where he stays.

I’ve got Jordan and Kareem as clear 1-2. Magic and Bird as 3-4. Then you could get into the range of players like Wilt, Bill Russell, Hakeem, Shaq, Duncan, Kobe, etc that Lebron is competing with in that 5-10 range.
There’s no way Kobe or Shaq are over Bird. I think you’re ignoring just how dominant Bird was in the 80s. The only way you make an argument for Kobe is longevity, and for Shaq would be his 4-5 year prime where he was completely unstoppable. Aside from that, nah.

Bill and Wilt, an argument could be made... but it could also be argued that they dominated an era when they were just bigger and more athletic than a league full of mostly slobs.

Watch more 80s games, yo. Best basketball era of all time.
Good to see you finally coming around :touched:

Better late than never :p
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
I think Kareem is overrated because the rules when he played were so different that he was able to set all those records thus making him look a lot better.
Of course you’d say this about a Lakers player. Kareem overrated lol. I guess everyone who was good before the 90s is overrated then. :lol:

Along with the 70s, Kareem dominated most of the 80s, one of the strongest eras of basketball ever.
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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Of course you’d say this about a Lakers player. Kareem overrated lol. I guess everyone who was good before the 90s is overrated then. :lol:

Along with the 70s, Kareem dominated most of the 80s, one of the strongest eras of basketball ever.
Therefore, by that logic:
Willis Reed
Bob Lanier
Wes Unseld
Dave Cowens
Moses Malone
Hakeem Olajuwon
Jack Sikma
Patrick Ewing
Robert Parish

Every single one of them. Overrated.

Never mind that every single one of those players are in the hall of fame with the exception of Sikma.


Nope. Doesn't matter. And that's not even all the centers Kareem faced in his career.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
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Therefore, by that logic:
Willis Reed
Bob Lanier
Wes Unseld
Dave Cowens
Moses Malone
Hakeem Olajuwon
Jack Sikma
Patrick Ewing
Robert Parish

Every single one of them. Overrated.

Never mind that every single one of those players are in the hall of fame with the exception of Sikma.


Nope. Doesn't matter. And that's not even all the centers Kareem faced in his career.
:agree:

Elvin Hayes and Nate Thurmond too. Two more hall of famers he matched up against for much of the 70s.

Along with his offensive game, Kareem was 11-time all-nba defensive team as well, against these guys.
 

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