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KB824

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And what do they benefit from keeping it private? This way, the celtics are also a possible trade partner, there’s word that even Toronto might try to give up something for AD. Keeping it private fucks the Pelicans over.

And as far as they’re concerned, it doesn’t matter where AD wants to go, they can trade him anywhere.

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Their franchise player who said he doesn’t want to play for them anymore.
But he only said that AFTER the team leaked it out. He didn't blindside the pelicans by going out to the media and letting them know before the team knew

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This issue is more about klutch sports vs the pelicans than it is the Lakers vs the Pelicans. If Lebron were still on the Cavs and thishappened, would it have gotten the amount of media attention that it has?,
 

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Post Ironic

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They should gone quiet about it? Why? The media literally have been for 4-5 months pushing AD to lakers (you think that's a coincidence?), Lebron even says publically he wants AD in Lakers. And suddenly AD demands trade and his agent publically says he wants a trade. You are not seriously naive enough to believe this convenient blaming game surely? Its one side who wants to force their way out, and specially only to Lakers, and everything has been in the open, but somehow Pelicans are the villains for leaking what? That Lakers made trade offers? Well duh they did, if they don't want to hurt their feelings, maybe don't use your young guys, who Pelicans dont seem to want, in trade offers.



Sorry but its insanely rich to blame this on Pelicans when they have been besieged all season by media doing Lakers bidding, then their player changing to Lebrons agency, and demanding trade, and having trade offers to them. All this to force their hand before trade deadline. Woopty doo, that abrasive tactic didnt. Neither does trying to make them in the villains. Dell Demps is incompetent as fvck, but he hardly can be blamed for this situation. It was forced on him and he isn't having it. It's his prerogative.

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Please, Lebron got asked if he'd like to play with AD and he said yes. He said he'd like to play with lots of great players.

Media doing Lakers bidding? What rubbish.

None of this needed to be played out in public and it's pretty damn clear the intention for Dell Demps and co was to make this as ugly as possible, every part of it.

The Pelicans could have made any team they wanted to aware of AD's availability in private without the big public mess. I've never seen this type of nonsense go down before in a star player's trade. Especially not leaked by his team, to make it all a mess.
 

KB824

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News about Kristaps Porzingis wishing to be traded came out about 30 minutes before he actually got dealt. So, are we to believe that New York and Dallas completed a trade in 30 minutes?
 

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But he only said that AFTER the team leaked it out. He didn't blindside the pelicans by going out to the media and letting them know before the team knew

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This issue is more about klutch sports vs the pelicans than it is the Lakers vs the Pelicans. If Lebron were still on the Cavs and thishappened, would it have gotten the amount of media attention that it has?,
I don’t think so, but then again, would AD have wanted to go to the Lakers if Lebron weren’t there?
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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And lol at just the Lakers. He gave them 4 teams. The Knicks even negotiated with them on a trade, with Porzingis and picks involved. And the Clippers have acquired picks and assets to make a deal possible.
Are you always this naive? They made it a point to demand it now so Celtics cant offer, his father talked about loyalty being reason he wont go there. And oh they made it known anywhere else but Laker would be a rental since he wont resign (hard for shitheads like Knicks to make offers then).

So again, who are we kidding what the destination of choice is? Doesnt have no trade clause so they doing in every way else to force it to Lakers, starting with demanding trade a week before trade deadline. Its not working. Its remain to be seen if its good or bad for Pelicans, but one thing is clear, they don't liked to be bullied to pull the trigger.

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Post Ironic

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And what do they benefit from keeping it private? This way, the celtics are also a possible trade partner, there’s word that even Toronto might try to give up something for AD. Keeping it private fucks the Pelicans over.

And as far as they’re concerned, it doesn’t matter where AD wants to go, they can trade him anywhere.

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Their franchise player who said he doesn’t want to play for them anymore.
You do understand that in private the Pelicans can make the Celtics aware AD is available... and Toronto... and every other team... You are also aware that Celtics have likely been talking to NO about AD's availability all year.

So, public, private, there is absolutely no difference aside from public making it a mess and poisoning the entire situation.

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Are you always this naive? They made it a point to demand it now so Celtics cant offer, his father talked about loyalty being reason he wont go there. And oh they made it known anywhere else but Laker would be a rental since he wont resign (hard for shitheads like Knicks to make offers then).

So again, who are we kidding what the destination of choice is? Doesnt have no trade clause so they doing in every way else to force it to Lakers, starting with demanding trade a week before trade deadline. Its not working. Its remain to be seen if its good or bad for Pelicans, but one thing is clear, they don't liked to be bullied to pull the trigger.

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Wat? AD and Paul haven't said anything about locations themselves. All media reporting. And that reporting also said he would go to Lakers, Knicks, Clippers, or Bucks. Both the Clippers and Knicks have or had the assets to go for him. So now you're just making things up.
 

KB824

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Actually, it was reported yesterday that AD's interest in the Knicks is on par with that of the Lakers

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I don’t think so, but then again, would AD have wanted to go to the Lakers if Lebron weren’t there?
You dont know that. But again, nobody does. Everyone is just trying to formulate an opinion.
 

Post Ironic

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Actually, it was reported yesterday that AD's interest in the Knicks is on par with that of the Lakers

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You dont know that. But again, nobody does. Everyone is just trying to formulate an opinion.
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New York has cap space for 2 max free agents. Kyrie is reported to be interested, amongst others. They could easily form an AD-Kyrie-? big 3. And the Knicks tried to make a deal with NO already based around Porzingis and picks. But very little of that was leaked out to the media immediately, unlike every single detail of each supposed Lakers offer somehow appearing in the media immediately.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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The Mavericks could have at least told him, so that he could have left the bench. That's not right.

Pierce says in the clip, he talked to Barnes agent, they knew deal was in the works, team/org told him dont play, but that Barnes himself chose to play in case it didnt happen. Risky, but was players choice apparently.


But yeah legit shit like this happen more then we think. Tho in this case according to players agent it seems more just bad optics then what really happend.
 

KB824

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Pierce says in the clip, he talked to Barnes agent, they knew deal was in the works, team/org told him dont play, but that Barnes himself chose to play in case it didnt happen. Risky, but was players choice apparently.


But yeah legit shit like this happen more then we think. Tho in this case according to players agent it seems more just bad optics then what really happend.
I understand that, but when the trade was about to happen, an official from the Mavericks could have gone to the bench and told him. Those optics are just terrible, and to me it is not a classy move by the Mavericks.
 

Post Ironic

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The Mavericks could have at least told him, so that he could have left the bench. That's not right.
Of course. Lebron is 100% right there, and having the platform he has, he should use it, as a big part of NBA players union. There is a level of hypocrisy there in how players treated like disposable and shipped off without warning or care, but if a player asks for a trade from a shit franchise that can't get it together he's lambasted for being selfish, ungrateful.

KD also ripped the media a new one yesterday. Went off on them hard for all the endless free agency speculation and nonsense.
 

KB824

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Anyway, it doesn't look like this AD trade is going to happen. Especially since the Pelicans haven't even come back with a counteroffer. They could have countered with 4 first round picks included in the deal, but they didn't even do that. So, it leads me to believe that the Pelicans were not going to trade with the Lakers under any circumstance. If they can get a better package than what the Lakers offered, good for them.

I'm just tired of the narrative that the Lakers were behind all of this. If they were, then they would have had the book thrown at them already.
 

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