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the kind to kill yourself over a single lick of pussy
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The definition of it as wikipedia views it:
In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
This sense of the word troll and its associated verb trolling are associated with Internet discourse, but have been used more widely. Media attention in recent years has equated trolling with online harassment. For example, mass media has used troll to describe "a person who defaces Internet tribute sites with the aim of causing grief to families."
This is a sad reality in the internet, it happens in big or lesser degrees nearly everywhere, but there are many misconceptions about it.
As far as this community is concerned, we have many many examples of foul trolling, however most of them are well tolerated by the mod team and whats more repulsing, the accusation of trolling is misused by certain forum members to impose their rulling and bully anyone who disagrees with them, this is done systematically for many years now.
I was the victim of this cyber bullying several time in this forum, it is hard for new moderators to stay objective and monitor each and every post, poster and his background.
In my long course in this forum, more than a decade as you can tell, i have seen and experienced many things, i grew to love this place and its modes, many things have changed and in the past years it has completely transformed into smth else, but it still hosts this love for Juve that bonds us and bring us back.
As i have explained time and time again, this is why i keep coming here, to be among Juve brothers and speak about Juve matters.
As i work many hours in a very demanding job, sometimes even 24h/day, i just know have the time to hang out here and care for making friends and keep in touch with them,not from disregard, i barely have time for my real life friends and family. For that reason i am not particularly involved into making forum friends and talk with them about non Juve matters.
I dont blame anyone for doing so, i actually think its natural for the ones that have the time for it.
Some ppl though are becoming obsessed with it, thye invest time and fellings on it and live for it, it becomes more important for them than Juve matters and they bring their personal things on every thread, derailling them to the ones who actually wont to talk on topic. And when someone does it, they even feel offended and they massively attack anyone who doesnt agree with them, give them importance etc
This cannot change and alhtough it degrades the quality of the threads, it is tolerated by the mod teams.
Sometimes it is tolerated and with it, many more attrocities go through, like personal attacks, insults, racist comments and many more trash that completely derail the continuity of the thread at hand.
As personally i am not here for the crap and i am only for Juventus, i am trying to ignore this crap, i am not taking anything personal and try to evade all this trolling and flame baiting that consumes the time and forum posts of several of the members in here, which postly have off topic insults, rather than on topic arguments.
I asked the mod team in the past, which is the right course of action for me to do, get down to their level and start quiting their every post with personal insults like they do, or sit back and expect from the mods to do their job?? With regret i saw that the mods let some certain members to act like they own theis place and brutally attack and insult everyone who doesnt agree with them, bulluyinh and intimidating ppl and using their influence on mod-buddies to assault anyone who dares to oppose them...
In my decade long history in these forums, i never attacked anyone unprovoked, never insulted anyone (except seven after his insults) and i was always ready to explain my views and exchange arguments with every poster. If you check py forum posts, you will see that most of them are on footballistic matters and always on topic. I rarely refer to forum member and even i am personally attacked, most of the times, i dont quote back and when i do, i always come back with an argument explaining my view on a certain footballistic matter.
The ones who share a decade with me in these forums know of my views on footballistic matters, even if they disagree with them, they know where they come from.
There was a new generation of offensive bullies that formed a group of terrorism 3-4 years ago, that nearly disamantled this forum, with their insults and GIFS.
For some reason the mod team protected them and did not punish them for derailing threads, insulting members and attacking them with personal attacks.
After a long discussion here, the situation was somewhat contained, by now starts a new chapters. The threads are no longer derailed as back then, but some of their buddies that have infiltrated in the mod team are abusing their mod powers, with intentional misinterpretation of the general rules, bending the rules to shield their buddies and using excessive force to assault anyone who oppose them.
For example in the past two weeks, they are trying to find a way to ban me and because they cant find an excuse for it, they are abusing their mod powers to ban me with multiple minor infractions, all of them for supposed trolling:
You have received an infraction at Juventuz Forums
Dear Cronios,
You have received an infraction (from moderator X) at Juventuz Forums.
Reason: Trolling
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This infraction is worth 4 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.
Original Post:
http://forum.juventuz.org/showthread.php?p=4898196
Like it happened with Isla, Marotta is likely to pay his annual 20mil tribute to the Pozzo family.
Pereyra was not juve starter material and will never will be.
There is a lot of misplaced hope and admiration, only because he can dribble. We ve seen it with Amauri and many other failures, that it can only impress only for a few moments, but when the end product keeps pilling up garbage, only the bitter taste remains...
You have received an infraction at Juventuz Forums
Dear Cronios,
You have received an infraction at Juventuz Forums, yet again from X.
Reason: Trolling.
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This infraction is worth 4 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.
Original Post:
http://forum.juventuz.org/showthread.php?p=4899094
If he wants out, he will leave.
Players can buy their last contract year and Marotta is famous for releasing everyone for free and evaporating income...
You have received a warning at Juventuz Forums
Dear Cronios,
You have received a warning at Juventuz Forums. (SAlvo)
Reason:
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Trolling.
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Original Post:
http://forum.juventuz.org/showthread.php?p=4909516
After a couple of decent games, back to being the worst player on the pitch...
In all of these posts that i have been warned for, i dont refer to any forumer, i dont derail any thread and i dont insult anyone.
I am saying my opinion for our players and managers in their decaded threads and time.
This is JUVENTUZ, not BonuccuZ, nor MArottuZ, we are not here only to praise Bonucci, MArotta and however a random forumer adores, we are here to talk about JUVENTUZ.
Some players happens to do great, some players dotn, some managerial moves are great, others are not.
Each to his opinion, are we are now censored from telling our opinion when it is not praising alone?
I love Juventus and noone above her, either be a player, a manager, let a lone a forumer, when i see that Juventus suffers from the performance of a player, or manager and my beloved team could do better, if he would do better, am i forbidden to criticise him, because some random member, or group of bullies will be offended?
There are certain group of bullies, that claim to praise whats worse in our team, not because they really like them, but because that they are more likely to find victims to attack, whetever anyone is ready to criticize them.
For example today, while i got a warning for criticizing Bonucci, a player that i consider as the worst player of our lot, i was attacked with insults and personal attacks, from memerbs that i never referred to like:
Just personal attacks, no arguments, just because they can, just because they mod-buddy bullies allow it...
So according to these mods, this behavior should be encouraged, this is the character of the forum they want to see, not forumers opinion on the players.
So, is this what the forum has become now? We are here to find an excuse to insult each other?
As we said before, the forums allows a constructive exchange of arguments, as long as it refrains from insults and personal attacks and if nothing good can come of it, members are free to ignore the forumers that have a different opinion. Some members feel like they are the center of the world and other should not be allowed to carry their own opinion, thats happens to be different than theirs and they believe that everyone who expresses a different opinion does it only to uppset them and not becuase he just happens to have his own reasons and arguments. And they feel so powerfull that they dotn even tolerated for other opinions to be expressed and once they do, the put their lap dogs to bite everyone who dares having a different opinion.
It doesnt matter, if the victims is the only one who actually has arguments in this matter, it doesnt matter that he is equally feel offended by the ones who provokatively choose to praise our worst perfromancers, only to troll the rest. As long as the victims of bullying dont dare to speak, they dont exist.
I however believe that this forums still has some dignity left in the mod team, that once they are aware of the situation will right the wrongs, they will defend the forumers right to speak freely of his opinion and will end the fasistic censorship!
In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
This sense of the word troll and its associated verb trolling are associated with Internet discourse, but have been used more widely. Media attention in recent years has equated trolling with online harassment. For example, mass media has used troll to describe "a person who defaces Internet tribute sites with the aim of causing grief to families."
This is a sad reality in the internet, it happens in big or lesser degrees nearly everywhere, but there are many misconceptions about it.
As far as this community is concerned, we have many many examples of foul trolling, however most of them are well tolerated by the mod team and whats more repulsing, the accusation of trolling is misused by certain forum members to impose their rulling and bully anyone who disagrees with them, this is done systematically for many years now.
I was the victim of this cyber bullying several time in this forum, it is hard for new moderators to stay objective and monitor each and every post, poster and his background.
In my long course in this forum, more than a decade as you can tell, i have seen and experienced many things, i grew to love this place and its modes, many things have changed and in the past years it has completely transformed into smth else, but it still hosts this love for Juve that bonds us and bring us back.
As i have explained time and time again, this is why i keep coming here, to be among Juve brothers and speak about Juve matters.
As i work many hours in a very demanding job, sometimes even 24h/day, i just know have the time to hang out here and care for making friends and keep in touch with them,not from disregard, i barely have time for my real life friends and family. For that reason i am not particularly involved into making forum friends and talk with them about non Juve matters.
I dont blame anyone for doing so, i actually think its natural for the ones that have the time for it.
Some ppl though are becoming obsessed with it, thye invest time and fellings on it and live for it, it becomes more important for them than Juve matters and they bring their personal things on every thread, derailling them to the ones who actually wont to talk on topic. And when someone does it, they even feel offended and they massively attack anyone who doesnt agree with them, give them importance etc
This cannot change and alhtough it degrades the quality of the threads, it is tolerated by the mod teams.
Sometimes it is tolerated and with it, many more attrocities go through, like personal attacks, insults, racist comments and many more trash that completely derail the continuity of the thread at hand.
As personally i am not here for the crap and i am only for Juventus, i am trying to ignore this crap, i am not taking anything personal and try to evade all this trolling and flame baiting that consumes the time and forum posts of several of the members in here, which postly have off topic insults, rather than on topic arguments.
I asked the mod team in the past, which is the right course of action for me to do, get down to their level and start quiting their every post with personal insults like they do, or sit back and expect from the mods to do their job?? With regret i saw that the mods let some certain members to act like they own theis place and brutally attack and insult everyone who doesnt agree with them, bulluyinh and intimidating ppl and using their influence on mod-buddies to assault anyone who dares to oppose them...
In my decade long history in these forums, i never attacked anyone unprovoked, never insulted anyone (except seven after his insults) and i was always ready to explain my views and exchange arguments with every poster. If you check py forum posts, you will see that most of them are on footballistic matters and always on topic. I rarely refer to forum member and even i am personally attacked, most of the times, i dont quote back and when i do, i always come back with an argument explaining my view on a certain footballistic matter.
The ones who share a decade with me in these forums know of my views on footballistic matters, even if they disagree with them, they know where they come from.
There was a new generation of offensive bullies that formed a group of terrorism 3-4 years ago, that nearly disamantled this forum, with their insults and GIFS.
For some reason the mod team protected them and did not punish them for derailing threads, insulting members and attacking them with personal attacks.
After a long discussion here, the situation was somewhat contained, by now starts a new chapters. The threads are no longer derailed as back then, but some of their buddies that have infiltrated in the mod team are abusing their mod powers, with intentional misinterpretation of the general rules, bending the rules to shield their buddies and using excessive force to assault anyone who oppose them.
For example in the past two weeks, they are trying to find a way to ban me and because they cant find an excuse for it, they are abusing their mod powers to ban me with multiple minor infractions, all of them for supposed trolling:
You have received an infraction at Juventuz Forums
Dear Cronios,
You have received an infraction (from moderator X) at Juventuz Forums.
Reason: Trolling
-------
This infraction is worth 4 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.
Original Post:
http://forum.juventuz.org/showthread.php?p=4898196
Like it happened with Isla, Marotta is likely to pay his annual 20mil tribute to the Pozzo family.
Pereyra was not juve starter material and will never will be.
There is a lot of misplaced hope and admiration, only because he can dribble. We ve seen it with Amauri and many other failures, that it can only impress only for a few moments, but when the end product keeps pilling up garbage, only the bitter taste remains...
You have received an infraction at Juventuz Forums
Dear Cronios,
You have received an infraction at Juventuz Forums, yet again from X.
Reason: Trolling.
-------
-------
This infraction is worth 4 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.
Original Post:
http://forum.juventuz.org/showthread.php?p=4899094
If he wants out, he will leave.
Players can buy their last contract year and Marotta is famous for releasing everyone for free and evaporating income...
You have received a warning at Juventuz Forums
Dear Cronios,
You have received a warning at Juventuz Forums. (SAlvo)
Reason:
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Trolling.
-------
Original Post:
http://forum.juventuz.org/showthread.php?p=4909516
After a couple of decent games, back to being the worst player on the pitch...
In all of these posts that i have been warned for, i dont refer to any forumer, i dont derail any thread and i dont insult anyone.
I am saying my opinion for our players and managers in their decaded threads and time.
This is JUVENTUZ, not BonuccuZ, nor MArottuZ, we are not here only to praise Bonucci, MArotta and however a random forumer adores, we are here to talk about JUVENTUZ.
Some players happens to do great, some players dotn, some managerial moves are great, others are not.
Each to his opinion, are we are now censored from telling our opinion when it is not praising alone?
I love Juventus and noone above her, either be a player, a manager, let a lone a forumer, when i see that Juventus suffers from the performance of a player, or manager and my beloved team could do better, if he would do better, am i forbidden to criticise him, because some random member, or group of bullies will be offended?
There are certain group of bullies, that claim to praise whats worse in our team, not because they really like them, but because that they are more likely to find victims to attack, whetever anyone is ready to criticize them.
For example today, while i got a warning for criticizing Bonucci, a player that i consider as the worst player of our lot, i was attacked with insults and personal attacks, from memerbs that i never referred to like:
Just personal attacks, no arguments, just because they can, just because they mod-buddy bullies allow it...
So according to these mods, this behavior should be encouraged, this is the character of the forum they want to see, not forumers opinion on the players.
So, is this what the forum has become now? We are here to find an excuse to insult each other?
As we said before, the forums allows a constructive exchange of arguments, as long as it refrains from insults and personal attacks and if nothing good can come of it, members are free to ignore the forumers that have a different opinion. Some members feel like they are the center of the world and other should not be allowed to carry their own opinion, thats happens to be different than theirs and they believe that everyone who expresses a different opinion does it only to uppset them and not becuase he just happens to have his own reasons and arguments. And they feel so powerfull that they dotn even tolerated for other opinions to be expressed and once they do, the put their lap dogs to bite everyone who dares having a different opinion.
It doesnt matter, if the victims is the only one who actually has arguments in this matter, it doesnt matter that he is equally feel offended by the ones who provokatively choose to praise our worst perfromancers, only to troll the rest. As long as the victims of bullying dont dare to speak, they dont exist.
I however believe that this forums still has some dignity left in the mod team, that once they are aware of the situation will right the wrongs, they will defend the forumers right to speak freely of his opinion and will end the fasistic censorship!
You have been asking for my ban in each and every thread and post no arguments at all, you have grudge against me, we can tell, i dont know why, as i never insulted you, asked for your removal, heck even cared to refer to you.
But why cant you just ignore me and why the forum should care about your opinion on me?
If you havea different opinion, state your counterargumtents, otherwise, dotn bother, why do you actively seek to harm other forumers?
Amd mod team why such harrashment is allowed?
But why cant you just ignore me and why the forum should care about your opinion on me?
If you havea different opinion, state your counterargumtents, otherwise, dotn bother, why do you actively seek to harm other forumers?
Amd mod team why such harrashment is allowed?
I agree with Cronios. You can't infract him for trolling since he's been consistent in his opinions for more than a decade on the site. In other words, there are absolutely no indications that he has ever trolled on tuz. And obviously you can't infract him for having a different opinion. Therefore: The mods should reverse Cronios' infractions and infract Hængebøffer and Kieselguhr Kid for insulting a member.
Seriously?
You show up, the 1 single match in the last 3 months that Bonucci performs poorly, and say he is crap again, like always after a couple decent performances...
THIS IS TROLLING.
He's been a top 5 defender in the world in 2014/15 season, both in league and CL. He's been by far our best defender, immense in contributing to a team that has allowed 17 goals in 32 matches in Serie A, and 5 goals in 10 CL matches.
You never show up to compliment his good performances. You never mention them. The only time you ever comment on Bonucci is to troll his bad performances and call him a lousy player.
Get a grip. Obvious trolling is obvious.
You show up, the 1 single match in the last 3 months that Bonucci performs poorly, and say he is crap again, like always after a couple decent performances...
THIS IS TROLLING.
He's been a top 5 defender in the world in 2014/15 season, both in league and CL. He's been by far our best defender, immense in contributing to a team that has allowed 17 goals in 32 matches in Serie A, and 5 goals in 10 CL matches.
You never show up to compliment his good performances. You never mention them. The only time you ever comment on Bonucci is to troll his bad performances and call him a lousy player.
Get a grip. Obvious trolling is obvious.
Shut up Völler. It's obvious trolling and you know it. If Cronios once showed up after Bonucci's amazing run of performances for the last 3 months to compliment him, and say how immense he had been for us, than saying he was crap today is just fine. I'll say it, he was crap today. In a meaningless match. He only shows up when the opportunity is there to troll.
And you know what... I'm perfectly happy to be infracted for my reply to Cronios.
And you know what... I'm perfectly happy to be infracted for my reply to Cronios.
Why do you feel like you own the forum and everyone dares having his opinion should explain himself to you?
Did you ever asked your self how provocative i see anyone who praises the player, i believe constantly harms the most, my beloved team?
However why do i not go ahead and attack anyone with personal insults, while i know that some intentionally do that to troll the ones who like Juventus?
Why can i gnore you and tolrete your opinion and you cant? Your opnion could be as trolling to me as mine is for yours, why am i not attacking?
Why do you consume yr self with such hate?
I am stating my opinion on the player and you are stating your opnion on me, how is that rellevant?
This is exactly what a troll does, he derails the discussion from the thread's subject and make it personal and the mod team, sadly goes along with it...
You could always ask me with a pm, if you cared so much and i would be happy to explain to you where i was and what exactly i meant whith what i said and why i said it.
We dont have to derail threads and you dont have to put your buddies to ban me...
I try to watch as many JUVE matches as i can,i get to see 80% of them, sometimes work or bad streams dont allow it, i cant have an opinion for the matches i dont see.
Some Bonucci lovers, praise him for his looks despite his performances,did anyone got an infarction for that?
In a CL, when he was great, i was the first to praise him and say in his forum that it was one of his best of the season.
It is in my interest too, to watch him do well.
I missed a game due to work and today he was yet again our worst player, in my opinion his double failure to clear the ball, reflects upon his general inability to do defensive work and yet again he was the main reason for our defeat. I can go as far as you want about his positioning there and then, generally etc you could just ask, but you never asked, never argued, just insulted...
I dont hate Bonucci, i didnt wish him death or smth, i dont hate you and i respect yr right to love for whatever reason that may be, even if it is for his looks or nationality, or whatever,
but i do love Juventus and i hate to see her down because of his mistakes again and again. As long as his does these mistakes, we concede goals and lose points and titles, i will criticise him, just like it happened today, i dont do it, to hurt your feelings, as i am not aware of them and i dont want to know them, frankly i dont have the time for them, i have no motive for trolling or any impact that my have in yr mode, as you dont have for mines.
I do it to defend my beloved Juve, for Juve and Juve alone.
I dont post my opinion for you, this is not your blog, or Bonucci's fansite, this is Juventus's forum!
And we call it, as we see it. Both of us should.
Frankly i dont have time to troll and hold grudges to anyone, the only thing that brings me here is Juventus, i state my on topic opinion on the matter, without insulting anyone
and i get infractions because some happen to have a different opinion?
Seriously?
Did you ever asked your self how provocative i see anyone who praises the player, i believe constantly harms the most, my beloved team?
However why do i not go ahead and attack anyone with personal insults, while i know that some intentionally do that to troll the ones who like Juventus?
Why can i gnore you and tolrete your opinion and you cant? Your opnion could be as trolling to me as mine is for yours, why am i not attacking?
Why do you consume yr self with such hate?
I am stating my opinion on the player and you are stating your opnion on me, how is that rellevant?
This is exactly what a troll does, he derails the discussion from the thread's subject and make it personal and the mod team, sadly goes along with it...
You could always ask me with a pm, if you cared so much and i would be happy to explain to you where i was and what exactly i meant whith what i said and why i said it.
We dont have to derail threads and you dont have to put your buddies to ban me...
I try to watch as many JUVE matches as i can,i get to see 80% of them, sometimes work or bad streams dont allow it, i cant have an opinion for the matches i dont see.
Some Bonucci lovers, praise him for his looks despite his performances,did anyone got an infarction for that?
In a CL, when he was great, i was the first to praise him and say in his forum that it was one of his best of the season.
It is in my interest too, to watch him do well.
I missed a game due to work and today he was yet again our worst player, in my opinion his double failure to clear the ball, reflects upon his general inability to do defensive work and yet again he was the main reason for our defeat. I can go as far as you want about his positioning there and then, generally etc you could just ask, but you never asked, never argued, just insulted...
I dont hate Bonucci, i didnt wish him death or smth, i dont hate you and i respect yr right to love for whatever reason that may be, even if it is for his looks or nationality, or whatever,
but i do love Juventus and i hate to see her down because of his mistakes again and again. As long as his does these mistakes, we concede goals and lose points and titles, i will criticise him, just like it happened today, i dont do it, to hurt your feelings, as i am not aware of them and i dont want to know them, frankly i dont have the time for them, i have no motive for trolling or any impact that my have in yr mode, as you dont have for mines.
I do it to defend my beloved Juve, for Juve and Juve alone.
I dont post my opinion for you, this is not your blog, or Bonucci's fansite, this is Juventus's forum!
And we call it, as we see it. Both of us should.
Frankly i dont have time to troll and hold grudges to anyone, the only thing that brings me here is Juventus, i state my on topic opinion on the matter, without insulting anyone
and i get infractions because some happen to have a different opinion?
Seriously?
Cronios obviously hates Bonucci and takes advantage of every opportunity to criticize him. The question is if he's posting his genuine opinions or if he's posting to annoy the easily annoyed members of the forum. If he's isn't a miserable, old, stubborn fool, but instead using his persona to troll, then he deserves a special made tuz medal, and not infractions, for a decade of excellent trolling.
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