The Manchester City invasion (13 Viewers)

Zaim

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Dec 1, 2007
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According to German and Dutch reports, City is close to signing Nigel de Jong (HSV) for 20m euro's :eek:. He's a decent player, but that price is way too high for him especially since his contract is expiring next year. HSV doing a good job to get as much money as possible, not that it's that difficult though.

Aside from the prestige and all, what will the profit be for the owners? If they'll spend like 200 million every year and pay sky high salaries, will they ever make a profit? I dont see them winning anything important in the next 10 years. The owners could easily be bored with it after a few years and sell the club. I feel sorry for the real fans of the club.
 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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According to German and Dutch reports, City is close to signing Nigel de Jong (HSV) for 20m euro's :eek:. He's a decent player, but that price is way too high for him especially since his contract is expiring next year. HSV doing a good job to get as much money as possible, not that it's that difficult though.

Aside from the prestige and all, what will the profit be for the owners? If they'll spend like 200 million every year and pay sky high salaries, will they ever make a profit? I dont see them winning anything important in the next 10 years. The owners could easily be bored with it after a few years and sell the club. I feel sorry for the real fans of the club.
20 MILL FOR DE JONG! OMFG he's not even worth half that on face value, hes certainly not what i consider 20 mill worth of talent. jees for 20 mill we could buy diego for that money

p.s galliani says his reason in considering the bid is because of the credit crunch, but didnt he say a couple of months ago that the credit crunch was not going to affect Milan or serie A for the matter?
 
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    Real Madrid match Kaka offer?

    Real Madrid are reportedly ready to match Manchester City’s offer for Kaka, so he could force Milan to wait until the summer.

    Rossoneri general manager Adriano Galliani had refused to part with the Ballon d’Or winner when Real made a reported £80m bid last year, but times have changed.

    “The world is now worth half of what it was a year ago,” he warned after last night’s 1-0 win over Fiorentina.

    “I have the same feelings as the fans and love this club, but as general manager I have to keep sentiment and reasoning together.”

    Milan are eager to cash in on Kaka, but Manchester City do not provide a draw for the player, as they are unlikely to qualify for the Champions League for at least another year.

    The News of the World now claims that Real Madrid have told Kaka’s father and advisor Bosco Leite that they would match the £100m transfer fee.

    The real difference would be the wages, as they could not hope to equal the £500,000 per week proposed by City, but that would be cancelled out by the prospect of football at the highest level.

    However, as Real Madrid are without a President right now after Ramon Calderon resigned this week, the deal could not be done until the summer.

    There could be one sticking point, as it is reported in Italy that Milan are only ready to sell to Manchester City because they are seen as 'harmless’ in the race for top European honours.

    channel 4

    Former Manchester City man Bernardo Corradi has advised Kaka not to join the Eastlands side. “It always rains in Manchester!”
     

    Badass J Elkann

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    Feb 12, 2006
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    Real Madrid match Kaka offer?

    Real Madrid are reportedly ready to match Manchester City’s offer for Kaka, so he could force Milan to wait until the summer.

    Rossoneri general manager Adriano Galliani had refused to part with the Ballon d’Or winner when Real made a reported £80m bid last year, but times have changed.

    “The world is now worth half of what it was a year ago,” he warned after last night’s 1-0 win over Fiorentina.

    “I have the same feelings as the fans and love this club, but as general manager I have to keep sentiment and reasoning together.”

    Milan are eager to cash in on Kaka, but Manchester City do not provide a draw for the player, as they are unlikely to qualify for the Champions League for at least another year.

    The News of the World now claims that Real Madrid have told Kaka’s father and advisor Bosco Leite that they would match the £100m transfer fee.

    The real difference would be the wages, as they could not hope to equal the £500,000 per week proposed by City, but that would be cancelled out by the prospect of football at the highest level.

    However, as Real Madrid are without a President right now after Ramon Calderon resigned this week, the deal could not be done until the summer.

    There could be one sticking point, as it is reported in Italy that Milan are only ready to sell to Manchester City because they are seen as 'harmless’ in the race for top European honours.

    channel 4

    Former Manchester City man Bernardo Corradi has advised Kaka not to join the Eastlands side. “It always rains in Manchester!”

    rain? rain would be improved weather in manchester, its like a hurricane every day with people speaking a completly different dialect of english to the rest of the country other than liverpool, it is like Torino but with english people and more rain


    Did Galliani ever NOT contradict himself?
    as does berlusconi, you do know hes a massive inter fan despite saying he is a devout milanista, but a milanista wouldn't try a buy inter back in the 80s
     

    Badass J Elkann

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    Feb 12, 2006
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    I feel quite nobish not having heard this. Source?
    as strange as it seems i read it in the book 'calcio' by john foot, apparently

    "it had been a myth for a long time and wasnt confirmed till 2004... but many journalists will point out that he had even tried to buy inter in the 80s, only an inter fan could possibly want to buy inter"
     

    Alen

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    Apr 2, 2007
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    as strange as it seems i read it in the book 'calcio' by john foot, apparently

    "it had been a myth for a long time and wasnt confirmed till 2004... but many journalists will point out that he had even tried to buy inter in the 80s, only an inter fan could possibly want to buy inter"
    I doubt this. First of all, buying Milan was a much better business because they were just as popular as Inter, but they were at least 10 times cheaper than Inter and it was much easier to buy them. The Moratti's were never going to sell Inter anyway.

    And if only an Inter fan could possibly want to buy Inter, does it mean that only a Milan fan could possibly want to buy Milan? Do you see any sense in Inter fan buying Milan and making it the most successful team in international club level?

    Berlusconi is primarly a businessman and he used Milan in his political career. But if he is a football fan then he's a Milan fan for sure. And everywhere i read about his childhood it's mentioned that he was a big Milan fan as a kid, just like his father who had taken him regularly to Milan matches on Sundays.
     

    Byrone

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    Dec 19, 2005
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    Seriously I dont know why some people are bitching about Kaka & its negative effects on Serie A if it happens.Serie A & La Liga have lost ground on the EPL due to poor marketing,sub standard broadcast quality(as to epl),pathetic commentators & the biggest factor is the language issue.

    If one visits Juventuz.com you could see its riddled with numerous spelling errors & way too much focus on Italian speaking fans.Most fans abroad cant speak the language of their favourite foreign team & thats why the EPL does well to an extent as English is a universally spoken language..The english commentary on Serie A games is like bloody cricket test commentators.No excitement & terrible knowledge of the clubs,players,stats & records.

    The EPL has done extremely well over the last couple of years to create a very strong brand,hence tycoons wanting a piece of the action.Lega Calcio needs to get back to basics if it wants to compete with the EPL IMO.
     

    Badass J Elkann

    It's time to go!!
    Feb 12, 2006
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    I doubt this. First of all, buying Milan was a much better business because they were just as popular as Inter, but they were at least 10 times cheaper than Inter and it was much easier to buy them. The Moratti's were never going to sell Inter anyway.

    And if only an Inter fan could possibly want to buy Inter, does it mean that only a Milan fan could possibly want to buy Milan? Do you see any sense in Inter fan buying Milan and making it the most successful team in international club level?

    Berlusconi is primarly a businessman and he used Milan in his political career. But if he is a football fan then he's a Milan fan for sure. And everywhere i read about his childhood it's mentioned that he was a big Milan fan as a kid, just like his father who had taken him regularly to Milan matches on Sundays.
    but if he was a true milanista why would he try to buy inter in the first place?
    I think he's one confused milanista who changed his 'religion' cant you see milan are now adopting the inter south american approach? must be a berlusconi interista thing :p
     

    Badass J Elkann

    It's time to go!!
    Feb 12, 2006
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    Seriously I dont know why some people are bitching about Kaka & its negative effects on Serie A if it happens.Serie A & La Liga have lost ground on the EPL due to poor marketing,sub standard broadcast quality(as to epl),pathetic commentators & the biggest factor is the language issue.

    If one visits Juventuz.com you could see its riddled with numerous spelling errors & way too much focus on Italian speaking fans.Most fans abroad cant speak the language of their favourite foreign team & thats why the EPL does well to an extent as English is a universally spoken language..The english commentary on Serie A games is like bloody cricket test commentators.No excitement & terrible knowledge of the clubs,players,stats & records.

    The EPL has done extremely well over the last couple of years to create a very strong brand,hence tycoons wanting a piece of the action.Lega Calcio needs to get back to basics if it wants to compete with the EPL IMO.
    i blame john barnes for that, then again bergomi's commentating is nearly as bad
     

    Mark

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    Dec 19, 2003
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    So the offer is only 55m € now? I doubt it. Maybe that will be the :gsol:official:gsol: number and the other 55 under the table.
     

    Bozi

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    Oct 18, 2005
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    You mean they will stay where they are? Because that's where they belong.


    Btw guys, i'm surprised how stunned you are. People say that Man City, previously Chelsea, and in the future all EPL teams are killing the game with these transfers.
    Are you forgetting how did serie A become by far the best league in the world? Are you forgetting that all the best players in the world played in serie A in the period from 1984-1998? Don't you wonder how come the Italian teams played in CL finals in 1989,1990,1992,1993,1994,1995,1996,1997 and 1998 (that's 9 out of 10) and the uefa cup finals in 1989,1990,1991,1992, 1993,1994,1995,1997,1998 and 1999 (that's 10 out of 11) ?

    You think it's because they produced the best talents or because they were financially superior to the other teams?

    Did you forget that it was Berlusconi the first guy who started messing up with the transfer market and inflated the prices?

    These are the football transfer records from 1984 till today

    # 1984 Diego Maradona - Barcelona to SSC Napoli for £5,000,000
    # 1987 Ruud Gullit - PSV Eindhoven to A.C. Milan for £6,000,000
    # 1990 Roberto Baggio - Fiorentina to Juventus for £8,000,000
    # 1992 Jean-Pierre Papin - Marseille to A.C. Milan for £10,000,000
    # 1992 Gianluca Vialli - Sampdoria to Juventus for £12,000,000
    # 1992 Gianluigi Lentini - Torino to A.C. Milan for £13,000,000
    # 1995 Roberto Baggio - Juventus to A.C. Milan for £13,200,000
    # 1996 Alan Shearer - Blackburn Rovers to Newcastle United for £15,000,000
    # 1997 Ronaldo - Barcelona to Inter Milan for £19,500,000
    # 1998 Denílson de Oliveira Araújo - São Paulo to Real Betis for £23,000,000
    # 1999 Christian Vieri - Lazio to Inter Milan for £31,000,000
    # 2000 Hernán Crespo - Parma to Lazio for £36,000,000
    # 2000 Luís Figo - Barcelona to Real Madrid for £37,000,000
    # 2001 Zinedine Zidane - Juventus to Real Madrid for £46,000,000

    The numbers may seem low looking from today's perspective, but the money Berlusconi and Juve were paying for Gullit, Baggio, Lentini, Papin and Vialli were just as amazing back then as 70m or 100m are today.

    What goes around comes around. Juve fans, and especially Milan fans, shouldn't be so disgusted from what's happening today. Milan fans should be the last ones to accuse City for anything because they built their success exactly by shamelessly overpaying for top players and not leaving the others a chance to buy these top players.
    :tup: top post there alen, people here have very short memories and go on about buying up players "not being Juve" bollocks! we were always a wealthy club,w e always bought up the best talent in serie a and i see no reason why we won't do that in the future. buffon,thuram,nedved,zebina,emerson,etc were ALL bought from rival clubs as have a lot of our legendary players

    hell not even delpie is a product of our youth system,but these folk have some romanticised version of history where we use the talented youngsters in our first team and din;t sue them as make-weights to get rival clubs best players
     

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