Maybe because we're the only country that have democracy you see conflicts always taking place. But I'm still hoping It's just about time until new chapter will open in Lebanon's history.
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It's not just democracy . The fact that other major countries want to have a hand in who's the next president is also a main reason why this is happening . Many democratic countries have their presidential campaigns exactly as planned , we're just too corrupt .
I hope you're right , I hope things change once and for all in Lebanon .
I hope you're right , I hope things change once and for all in Lebanon .
And the people of this forum are still sticking to the name of this thread!! 
How about: "Lebanon-Watch: The never ending story." it's exciting and neutral.
Anyway, my two cents on the situation...as usual...I'm too busy at XT, but when this thread resurfaces, I suddenly pop up
Not gonna reply to anyone as u probably know what I have to say, if you flip previous pages...
Well... I was upset at the scenes of Lahoud's farewell. Yes, he was a Syrian puppet, yes he used to go swimming at his five-star country club (I used to go there coz my cousin was a member, seen him with my own eyes), and yes we feel he has contributed f*ck all to the welfare of our country. He is even linked to the murder of Rafic el Hariri, frequently accused of knowing about the plot in advance. His relationship with Hariri during the last 3-4 years of his tenure were very bad and the two couldn't stand each other's sight.
As Lahoud took his final steps outside of the Presidential Palace, he reiterated his hate to the March14 regime, exclaiming (Arabic) "They are an ILLEGAL parliament, that must be removed with immediate effect!"
What did Lahoud contribute then? Well, for your information, in 1998 the Lebanese army was chaotic multi-factioned, red-taped, corrupt institution where only people with connections benefitted. This, I credit the man with fixing up - the army is united now, as an institution. When it comes to each individual, the army is slightly divided...and this can be seen if/when riots break out a-la January 23rd (hopefully won't happen again!).
Lahoud is also credited in supporting the Islamic Resistance (Hezballah) in the face of occupation. Yes we were occupied by Israel, 10452 WAS OCCUPIED, Leb Army wasn't strong enough to support this- where was the USA to support us during that time?
I'll tell you where - it was the ex-American ambassador who - by the way handed me my high school diploma!! lol - was acting as an agent for the Mossad during his post. Yeah nice chap, Mr. Sutterfield (sp?) I'll admit. His Arabic was impeccable, too.
Some say good riddance...fine like I mentioned above, I understand how one can hate him. But there's nothing to celebrate. Fireworks? Dabka (drums), dancing? You've got to be shitting me, OUR COUNTRY IS WITHOUT A PRESIDENT. There is NOTHING to celebrate, for f*ck's sake.
We have a military rule now, and I'm glad the boys are all over the place. At least that's one institution which 90% of Lebanese respect.
Moving on to Aoun. Few days back, he reached out with a compromise to Mr. Saad Hariri requesting him to join him as a Prime Minister while Aoun nominated himself as president retaining the pact with Hezballah.
Saad probably has too much pride to simply say, "Oh. well thanks for the compromise, suits me."
Plus 14March supporters, understandably, will reject this.
Mr. Nasrallah, a few weeks back boldly declared that he will make sure to revolt against any government that is setup by the USA. *Watch this space* Riots anybody? *sigh*
So to sum it all up, the President's seat is vacant, the country is divided into several camps, the plot thickens, Phoenicia-Intercontinental Hotel is hosting meals for the elite March14 politicians, Hezballah are obsessed with Israel, the Lebanese youth are fleeing, unemployment gap increases, and the people starve.
But the irony of it all? Flights to Beirut are fully booked, hotels, night clubs, restaurants are all fully-booked for new year, and just about everybody I know is going there to party. Welcome to Lebanon!!
How about: "Lebanon-Watch: The never ending story." it's exciting and neutral.
Anyway, my two cents on the situation...as usual...I'm too busy at XT, but when this thread resurfaces, I suddenly pop up
Not gonna reply to anyone as u probably know what I have to say, if you flip previous pages...
Well... I was upset at the scenes of Lahoud's farewell. Yes, he was a Syrian puppet, yes he used to go swimming at his five-star country club (I used to go there coz my cousin was a member, seen him with my own eyes), and yes we feel he has contributed f*ck all to the welfare of our country. He is even linked to the murder of Rafic el Hariri, frequently accused of knowing about the plot in advance. His relationship with Hariri during the last 3-4 years of his tenure were very bad and the two couldn't stand each other's sight.
As Lahoud took his final steps outside of the Presidential Palace, he reiterated his hate to the March14 regime, exclaiming (Arabic) "They are an ILLEGAL parliament, that must be removed with immediate effect!"
What did Lahoud contribute then? Well, for your information, in 1998 the Lebanese army was chaotic multi-factioned, red-taped, corrupt institution where only people with connections benefitted. This, I credit the man with fixing up - the army is united now, as an institution. When it comes to each individual, the army is slightly divided...and this can be seen if/when riots break out a-la January 23rd (hopefully won't happen again!).
Lahoud is also credited in supporting the Islamic Resistance (Hezballah) in the face of occupation. Yes we were occupied by Israel, 10452 WAS OCCUPIED, Leb Army wasn't strong enough to support this- where was the USA to support us during that time?
I'll tell you where - it was the ex-American ambassador who - by the way handed me my high school diploma!! lol - was acting as an agent for the Mossad during his post. Yeah nice chap, Mr. Sutterfield (sp?) I'll admit. His Arabic was impeccable, too.
Some say good riddance...fine like I mentioned above, I understand how one can hate him. But there's nothing to celebrate. Fireworks? Dabka (drums), dancing? You've got to be shitting me, OUR COUNTRY IS WITHOUT A PRESIDENT. There is NOTHING to celebrate, for f*ck's sake.
We have a military rule now, and I'm glad the boys are all over the place. At least that's one institution which 90% of Lebanese respect.
Moving on to Aoun. Few days back, he reached out with a compromise to Mr. Saad Hariri requesting him to join him as a Prime Minister while Aoun nominated himself as president retaining the pact with Hezballah.
Saad probably has too much pride to simply say, "Oh. well thanks for the compromise, suits me."
Plus 14March supporters, understandably, will reject this.
Mr. Nasrallah, a few weeks back boldly declared that he will make sure to revolt against any government that is setup by the USA. *Watch this space* Riots anybody? *sigh*
So to sum it all up, the President's seat is vacant, the country is divided into several camps, the plot thickens, Phoenicia-Intercontinental Hotel is hosting meals for the elite March14 politicians, Hezballah are obsessed with Israel, the Lebanese youth are fleeing, unemployment gap increases, and the people starve.
But the irony of it all? Flights to Beirut are fully booked, hotels, night clubs, restaurants are all fully-booked for new year, and just about everybody I know is going there to party. Welcome to Lebanon!!
When I heard him saying that, I didn't know If I should smile, laugh, cry etc.... He's talking about Illegal things?? Isn't he ashamed of himself to talk about Illegal things? Or doesn't he know that the Syrians extended his chair by foce? Or maybe he consider that Legal.
Fixing what up? Fixing our army? How did he fix our army when he was WITH the syrian secret services allowing them to do whatever they want for our army? How is that fixing?
It's more like taking a prositute out of the street, and putting her home but still she has her clients coming over her place every single night. I wouldn't call that fixing to be honest.
Fixing is when he has the balls to stand up against that secret service and making our Lebanese Army strong in-order to get rid of the syrians. Because once we have a strong army there's no need for them.
Thats the only reason still very few of the Lebanese can stand him and that is for supporting Hezbollah.
Btw, why would USA support you?
I don't see a big deal TBH, with Emil Lahoud or without him It's the same thing. He never worked for Lebanon, he never did anything positive during his time. What diff would It make If he's there or not?
Being without a president for several days is better than having someone working against his own country just because he's benefiting from the syrians.
Aoun is an Idiot, and should stay away from politics, he's probably good as General in the army but other than that an old man with his zero knowledge in politics should take care of his family more rather than wasting his time.
Saad Hariri is still young to become a PM. Aoun is welling to do anything to become a president, even If that meant a new war in Lebanon. Or even a blowjob and I can bet on it. No kidding.
Yeah, I couldn't find a ticket for myself so far.
Fixing what up? Fixing our army? How did he fix our army when he was WITH the syrian secret services allowing them to do whatever they want for our army? How is that fixing?
It's more like taking a prositute out of the street, and putting her home but still she has her clients coming over her place every single night. I wouldn't call that fixing to be honest.
Fixing is when he has the balls to stand up against that secret service and making our Lebanese Army strong in-order to get rid of the syrians. Because once we have a strong army there's no need for them.
Thats the only reason still very few of the Lebanese can stand him and that is for supporting Hezbollah.
Btw, why would USA support you?
I don't see a big deal TBH, with Emil Lahoud or without him It's the same thing. He never worked for Lebanon, he never did anything positive during his time. What diff would It make If he's there or not?
Being without a president for several days is better than having someone working against his own country just because he's benefiting from the syrians.
Aoun is an Idiot, and should stay away from politics, he's probably good as General in the army but other than that an old man with his zero knowledge in politics should take care of his family more rather than wasting his time.
Saad Hariri is still young to become a PM. Aoun is welling to do anything to become a president, even If that meant a new war in Lebanon. Or even a blowjob and I can bet on it. No kidding.
Yeah, I couldn't find a ticket for myself so far.
14 February will be the 3rd anniversary year a great man called Rafik Hariri 
It's a sad day but a great day for us as Lebanese at the same time, reminding the syrian regime that the Tribunal will take place and invading Lebanon will never happen again and of course to salut the great Rafik Hariri.
I'll be there to light a candle and remember our great man
It's a sad day but a great day for us as Lebanese at the same time, reminding the syrian regime that the Tribunal will take place and invading Lebanon will never happen again and of course to salut the great Rafik Hariri.
I'll be there to light a candle and remember our great man
F*ck that. And change the bloody thread title to the "Official Lebanon crises thread!!"
Look I want to say this, whilst keeping in mind, that is retaining the respect for Hariri's death.
Martyrdom is dying for your country. Hundreds of thousands of Lebanese have done just that. But their relatives got nothing out of it. Our country is in shambles.
Hariri is indeed 100% a martyr, nobody will deny this fact. But how do you expect Lebanese of the south who over the decades have lost everything due to wars with Israel, the lack of support from Arab countries, to share such a "sympathetic" or emotional sentiment that people over in Ras Beirut have? Again, I'm not playing down Hariri's martyrdom. My point being, Lebanon has lost alot of martyrs who died for nothing, except for stupid wars in the name of regional instability or sectarianism. And look at the result now. Can you be happy with the status quo back home now? Did you go to Lebanon recently? The people are going on with their daily lives, but they're all depressed, frustrated, and pissed off - and this applies to every sect, every community....people are sick and tired of all the instability, the car bombs.....
Rafik Hariri himself said the words when he was still alive, "El dawle el Lebneniyye fiya hadirr" (the Leb government does indeed have financial mishaps" ). The word hadir in Arabic is just a soft or polite word for "Corruption".
I'm sick of hoping for a reconciliation between the March 8 and 14 parties, coz you know what? It's not gonna happen. I used to have hope, but I lost it.
We're still without a f*cking president, despite the miraculous fact that both parties agree on a person- Michel Sleiman.
The atmosphere is electric. I personally know someone that is selling machine guns and helping people stock up on weapons- it's actually scary. Many Lebanese, whether they have political affinity towards a party/ideology or just neutrals, are loading up on machines guns and bullets in order to protect themselves/families, in case a war breaks out.
The thought of normal people stocking up on guns really scary, since there is no official control over such an issue.
Tensions are rising...
Look I want to say this, whilst keeping in mind, that is retaining the respect for Hariri's death.
Martyrdom is dying for your country. Hundreds of thousands of Lebanese have done just that. But their relatives got nothing out of it. Our country is in shambles.
Hariri is indeed 100% a martyr, nobody will deny this fact. But how do you expect Lebanese of the south who over the decades have lost everything due to wars with Israel, the lack of support from Arab countries, to share such a "sympathetic" or emotional sentiment that people over in Ras Beirut have? Again, I'm not playing down Hariri's martyrdom. My point being, Lebanon has lost alot of martyrs who died for nothing, except for stupid wars in the name of regional instability or sectarianism. And look at the result now. Can you be happy with the status quo back home now? Did you go to Lebanon recently? The people are going on with their daily lives, but they're all depressed, frustrated, and pissed off - and this applies to every sect, every community....people are sick and tired of all the instability, the car bombs.....
Rafik Hariri himself said the words when he was still alive, "El dawle el Lebneniyye fiya hadirr" (the Leb government does indeed have financial mishaps" ). The word hadir in Arabic is just a soft or polite word for "Corruption".
I'm sick of hoping for a reconciliation between the March 8 and 14 parties, coz you know what? It's not gonna happen. I used to have hope, but I lost it.
We're still without a f*cking president, despite the miraculous fact that both parties agree on a person- Michel Sleiman.
The atmosphere is electric. I personally know someone that is selling machine guns and helping people stock up on weapons- it's actually scary. Many Lebanese, whether they have political affinity towards a party/ideology or just neutrals, are loading up on machines guns and bullets in order to protect themselves/families, in case a war breaks out.
The thought of normal people stocking up on guns really scary, since there is no official control over such an issue.
Tensions are rising...
