The King is dead!!! (28 Viewers)

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
Fred, Fred, Fred! You'd been quiet in the game until I got jailed. I want to know why? In fact I know why. Last time I called you out on the same bullshit play and you were a G so you waited until I couldn't say squat to make your move! And again you're trying to fool everyone. I see right through you. Seriously folks, why would the D announce himself to everyone? And if you read a few pages back Klin (who is a confirmed G) was saying that the BG should protect Fred so he can get the benefit of the doubt. Trying to play us again?

Thanks for the tip G:




If I die Fred killed me for outing him!!!
Darling, do not overestimate yourself. The time where i was "quiet" i wasn't even on the forums, you can check if i had any posts at that time.

and the biggest mistake is letting past games affect you.

also, lets try out my hypothesis, think about it, we have 4 G's left + 2 possible recruits. We have 10 regular civilians plus one of them has now become the jailer, we have a BG and a lawyer.

for me to be right about Deneb, he has to not be any one of the 4 G's, he has to not be the BG, the lawyer or the jailer and if you want to assume i'm not the detective, then he has to not be the detective either. That means the chances for me being wrong about him being a regular civilian with no other role are about 30-40%. That is a huuuuuuuuuuuge risk, so lets test my claim by lynching Deneb. You can really bust me if i'm wrong, right?
 

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Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
41,113
Then again, Deneb might have been assigned the jailer role today, that will make things awkward :D

So unless i am extremely unlucky, Deneb is a sure C, regular, he is not the lawyer, he's not the BG, not the detective, and not one from any of the G families.

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Or all that crap is just another way for you to kill another innocent C...
Lets assume thats true, the minute i get caught for lying about someones role, you lynch me, time is on the C's side anyway. You can afford my BS for the time being, the cost of you being wrong about me, and getting my lynched then i turn out to be the D is too big.

So, assume i'm BSing, i will declare who i will investigate today before i pm Jasper, and then i will make the result of my investigation public.
 

Lilith

Immortelle
May 19, 2006
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See the thing is DARLING, if you're a G then you know your other G brother/sister...then the odds are just 2 out of the remaining persons are G's. So I'd say that puts the odds in your favour...And if you want to add that possible recruit on the other team, 3 out of the remaining bunch still isn't too bad risk to take either. I am not following anyone blindly in this game and getting myself killed!
 

LowLife

Senior Member
Jan 7, 2011
4,967
Hmmm, at least one person that voted for Sheik was a G. did any one switch votes late?
I did, Because i trusted Klin. And as someone quoted klin saying we will just waste one day if we don't lynch anyone. And i saw that sheik had two votes, and i went for him, he wasn't suspicious, he was just being himself.
Read my post people! Fred is trying to distract!
:agree:
Or all that crap is just another way for you to kill another innocent C...
Exactly!
 

Salvo

J
Moderator
Dec 17, 2007
62,794
Im not sure if I trust Fred to be honest but I think it will be King Seb for me, if you are a C it will give more answers.
 

Lilith

Immortelle
May 19, 2006
6,719
One last thing, if Fred is indeed the D, odd that neither of the rival gangs tried to put a hit on him. He is way too good at lying. I don't trust him one bit.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
See the thing is DARLING, if you're a G then you know your other G brother/sister...then the odds are just 2 out of the remaining persons are G's. So I'd say that puts the odds in your favour...And if you want to add that possible recruit on the other team, 3 out of the remaining bunch still isn't too bad risk to take either. I am not following anyone blindly in this game and getting myself killed!
Ok lets break this down.

Lets assume now that i am a big bad G, and all this is a huge bluff, or whatever you want to call it. This is the scenario, please tell me if i get anything wrong.

I am a G. The only certain thing i know now, is my other G partner, and possibly a recruit. So the only certain thing i know, are the 1(+1) G's that are on my team.

Ok, now i have claimed that Deneb was one of the regular 11 C's(which means there is a possibility that he's been assigned the jailer role too).

By claiming that, Deneb has to be one of the 11 regular C's and cannot be one of the other G family, which are 2 people + 1 possible recruit. He also cannot have the detective role, the BG role or the lawyer role. That is 3 other possibilities where my claim that Deneb is a regular C with no special role can go wrong.

So, we lynch Deneb today, what if he turns out to be one of the other G family, or one of the 3 aforementioned special roles? Then i'm done, you lynch me the next day, and you get rid of yet another G, time is on the C's side, you can afford that.

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One last thing, if Fred is indeed the D, odd that neither of the rival gangs tried to put a hit on him. He is way too good at lying. I don't trust him one bit.
They probably assumed that the BG is protecting me, and i hope to God that he is. Wasting a whacking on me, especially when few people actually believe me might not have been very prudent.
 

Salvo

J
Moderator
Dec 17, 2007
62,794
The g's could have recruited, it is still really hard to tell right now. We got lucky with the two g's killing each other. I highly doubt the g's would recruit the obvious more experienced players as well.
 
Jan 5, 2011
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1. Honestly I don't think Fred is lying. There is no point in doing that because the G not only have to eliminate all the C but the rival G. So if he is a G trying to lynch a C, the opponent G family get the benefit as well.

2. Is Deneb X? I got confused a bit. Why didn't he say anything so far, does that mean he is a C? or worse used to be a C but now a G and hope people think he was still a C.

3. Who are we going to lynched today? and who should Fred investigate assumed he is a D?
 

Dadi-SK

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Jan 30, 2011
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1. Honestly I don't think Fred is lying. There is no point in doing that because the G not only have to eliminate all the C but the rival G. So if he is a G trying to lynch a C, the opponent G family get the benefit as well.

2. Is Deneb X? I got confused a bit. Why didn't he say anything so far, does that mean he is a C? or worse used to be a C but now a G and hope people think he was still a C.

3. Who are we going to lynched today? and who should Fred investigate assumed he is a D?
Yes, Deneb is X. I got confused a little bit too but was told that X is Deneb.
 
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Ford Prefect

Ford Prefect

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May 28, 2009
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    Why doesn't Sam announce the results of the investigation? I think it would be more fair that way.

    Feel free to investigate me though.
    Few things.

    1. New Jailer has been selected after Hodor was beheaded.
    2. The G's can only recruit using their Knight, after their lord has been killed. That clause is to balance the power the gs have over the cs.
    3. The deadline from now on is 23:00 CET.
    4. You guys know I can't confirm or deny anyone's role, pm's, investigations, protections etc. Only me and the individuals will know.
     

    Fred

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    Oct 2, 2003
    41,113
    1. Honestly I don't think Fred is lying. There is no point in doing that because the G not only have to eliminate all the C but the rival G. So if he is a G trying to lynch a C, the opponent G family get the benefit as well.

    2. Is Deneb X? I got confused a bit. Why didn't he say anything so far, does that mean he is a C? or worse used to be a C but now a G and hope people think he was still a C.

    3. Who are we going to lynched today? and who should Fred investigate assumed he is a D?
    Deneb is according to the investigation result, a regular C. He could be the jailer, as that has now be reassigned. According to Sam, recruiting cannot happen until the lord has been killed, so for the time being we can at least be sure that Deneb has not and cannot be recruited yet, so ya, Deneb for now is the only confirmed C.

    and yes, Deneb is X.
     

    Fred

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    Oct 2, 2003
    41,113
    Klin Murdered Day 1 - Spy (Clearwaters)
    2. ALC
    3. Dadi-SK
    4. DVS
    5. Sheik Yerbouti - Beheaded Day 1 - Jailer
    6. X
    7. Quetzalcoatl - Murdered Day 1 - Spy (Tanglewoods)
    8. Janna
    9. King Antonio (Melo)
    10. Gabriel
    11. Gordon Bombay
    12. SABSAB
    13. King Sebastian (Lowlife)
    14. j0ker
    15. Salvo
    16. King Arturo (Kyle)
    17. Kate
    18. Fred
    19. Khunglongkhelua
    . Risa/Lilith
    . Nzoric


    This is the list of players, interesting how a lot of them have been inactive. Kyle, Kate, Nzoric, Gabriel and a few others have been too quiet for my liking, would really suck if any of them were G's. I want to take this opportunity to applaud Klin, even if he was whacked on the first day, he was the most active person yesterday despite being a G. Thats how the game should be played, if we had more people like him, the game would be absolutely amazing:tup:
     

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