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If we let the numbers talk:
players bought even counting the backup keeper: about 38m €
players sold not even counting the possible sells of Almiron and Tiago: about 22m €
Total spent in transfer budget: 16m €
We spent double the amount last season if not more.
players bought even counting the backup keeper: about 38m €
players sold not even counting the possible sells of Almiron and Tiago: about 22m €
Total spent in transfer budget: 16m €
We spent double the amount last season if not more.
If we let the numbers talk:
players bought even counting the backup keeper: about 38m €
players sold not even counting the possible sells of Almiron and Tiago: about 22m €
Total spent in transfer budget: 16m €
We spent double the amount last season if not more.
players bought even counting the backup keeper: about 38m €
players sold not even counting the possible sells of Almiron and Tiago: about 22m €
Total spent in transfer budget: 16m €
We spent double the amount last season if not more.
I don't think they ever said that + I counted the backup keeper and even if they did say that we can get a couple mil out for Tiago and Almiron.
anyway,
«Per il mercato abbiamo monitorato Xabi Alonso, Senna, Stankovic e Poulsen, così come Aquilani, un giocatore fuori dalla media, ma quando la Roma ha detto che lui non era sul mercato ci siamo ritirati. E guardato altrove... A un certo punto il cerchio si è ristretto a Xabi Alonso e Poulsen e il danese è stato più facile da acquistare. Ma non ditemi che l'abbiamo preso perchè era quello che costava di meno...
We monitored Xabi Alonso, Senna, Stankovic and Poulsen, Aquilani also, a player out of range, when Roma said he was off the market we backed off and looked elsewhere...At one point we were down to Xabi and Poulsen and the Dane was easier to get(NO SHIT!)...
anyway,
«Per il mercato abbiamo monitorato Xabi Alonso, Senna, Stankovic e Poulsen, così come Aquilani, un giocatore fuori dalla media, ma quando la Roma ha detto che lui non era sul mercato ci siamo ritirati. E guardato altrove... A un certo punto il cerchio si è ristretto a Xabi Alonso e Poulsen e il danese è stato più facile da acquistare. Ma non ditemi che l'abbiamo preso perchè era quello che costava di meno...
We monitored Xabi Alonso, Senna, Stankovic and Poulsen, Aquilani also, a player out of range, when Roma said he was off the market we backed off and looked elsewhere...At one point we were down to Xabi and Poulsen and the Dane was easier to get(NO SHIT!)...
If we let the numbers talk:
players bought even counting the backup keeper: about 38m €
players sold not even counting the possible sells of Almiron and Tiago: about 22m €
Total spent in transfer budget: 16m €
We spent double the amount last season if not more.
players bought even counting the backup keeper: about 38m €
players sold not even counting the possible sells of Almiron and Tiago: about 22m €
Total spent in transfer budget: 16m €
We spent double the amount last season if not more.
If we let the numbers talk:
players bought even counting the backup keeper: about 38m €
players sold not even counting the possible sells of Almiron and Tiago: about 22m €
Total spent in transfer budget: 16m €
We spent double the amount last season if not more.
players bought even counting the backup keeper: about 38m €
players sold not even counting the possible sells of Almiron and Tiago: about 22m €
Total spent in transfer budget: 16m €
We spent double the amount last season if not more.
= €22.6m
In:
Amauri (€22.8m), De Ceglie (€3.5), Knezevic (loan €0.7m), Poulsen (€9.75m) = €36.75m
Total spent: €14.15m (actually alot less since the money is paid in installments over 3 years)
Using installments:
Out:
- Nocerino (€7.5m paid in 3 annual installments)
- Blasi (€2.6m paid in 3 annual installments)
- Paro (€2m, no press release on Juventus.com regarding the structuring of the deal, but it's most likely 3 annual installments as well)
- Rossi (€1m, paid in 3 annual installments)
- Mirante (co-own €1m, like Paro, no official press release regarding the structuring of the deal, but 3 annual installments is the norm)
- Lanzafame (€2.5m paid in 3 annual installments. Technically, Palermo are paying Juve €5m in 3 annual installements, but at the same time we will be paying Palermo €2.5m in 3 annual installments to co-own him, so really it's just €2.5m.)
- Palladino (co-own €5m, paid in 3 annual installments. Same idea as Lanzafame. Genoa are paying Juve €10m over 3 years but were paying them €5m over 3 years at the same time.)
- Criscito (loan €1m, paid in 2 annual installments)
Total sale money upfront = €7.7m
In:
- Amauri (€22.8m paid in 3 annual installments)
- De Ceglie (€3.5 paid all at once)
- Knezevic (loan €0.7m paid all at once)
- Poulsen (€9.75m, paid in 3 installments - €4.75m paid by July 19th 2008, €2.5m paid within July 11th 2009, €2.5m paid withing July 11th 2010)
Total transfer fee's upfront = €16.55m
Total spent this transfer period = €8.85m
As for our signings, I do see the logic behind them even if I would have taken a different route.
Poulsen has already developed into a good defensive midfielder, and carries alot more experience than Nocerino, so thats 1 upgrade.
Giovinco means we wont be stuck playing Palladino as a left or right sided attacking mid, so thats another upgrade.
De Ceglie gives us cover at lb we didn't have last season, meaning we wont have to play Grygera or Brazzo at lb if Molinaro gets injured. Not to mention De Ceglie looks very promising so he may turn out to be Ranieri's 1st choice as the season goes on. Even if he is no better than Molinaro (which I doubt), at least that means we wont be left fielding less effective players at lb. It's an upgrade either way
Tiago and Almiron have set the bar pretty low, so Marchisio wont have a difficult time proving his worth to the team.
If either of our cb's get injured, we wont be left moving Grygera to cb, and instead of Boumsong, we now have Mellberg. Thats another upgrade.
Amauri is quality, and gives us 4 attackers upfront with different attributes. Plus we can pair him alongside any1.
Objectively, I see the logic behind our transfer plan this season, even if I dont agree with it. It builds on the tactics we used last season, which saw us beat all the big teams and finish 3rd.
Furthermore, as shown above, this summer's mercato will hardly put a dent in our finances, and the sale of Tiago and/or Almiron will make it look even better. After all, Juventus are a business, and the board's job is to see us run effectively. I find it funny when I see ppl constantly slating our board for everything that happens, when alot of them are past/present executives at many other companies and have little to no experience with football. All the tactical choices on the transfer market are made by the technical team at Juve (coaches, scouts, etc), and the board just make sure ends meet, like pretty much every other company in the world.
@shyne
i understand u too but what r we going to do? do we want to win something over the next years or do we want to do good business... i know we can not spend like shit (like rm manu and co) but i just thought that our transfer budget was around 40 mil without sales... so just imagine one of our stars will have a bad season there is noone who can step up... and they r also not the youngest anymore..... yes we did beat milan inter and roma... but with mourinho and mancini and maybe another player inter will be much stronger (and mancini was a bad coach against big teams) milan will also have some new players and i think pirlo and co to have an better season than last year
i understand u too but what r we going to do? do we want to win something over the next years or do we want to do good business... i know we can not spend like shit (like rm manu and co) but i just thought that our transfer budget was around 40 mil without sales... so just imagine one of our stars will have a bad season there is noone who can step up... and they r also not the youngest anymore..... yes we did beat milan inter and roma... but with mourinho and mancini and maybe another player inter will be much stronger (and mancini was a bad coach against big teams) milan will also have some new players and i think pirlo and co to have an better season than last year
Don't know wtf this means but it doesn't look good. We can't even get freakin' Manninger for GK backup. I guess this article says he might join Udinese but I'm not sure. Udinese huh? Chimenti back to Juve? 
Don't they have Handanovic? Maybe he's our guy. BOH!
14.07.2008, 18:55 Uhr
Endlich fix: Manninger wechselt zu Udinese
Teamgoalie Alexander Manninger fängt
die Bälle künftig für Udinese
Wien – Nach langen Verhandlungsrunden ist die Zukunft von Alexander Manninger endlich geklärt.
Der Team-Goalie wechselt von Red Bull Salzburg zu Udinese Calcio.
Das bestätigt Heinz Hochhauser, Sportdirektor des österreichischen Vizemeisters, im Gespräch mit LAOLA1.
Nur mehr das Fax fehlt
„Die Entscheidung ist gefallen. Ich habe zwar die endgültige Rückmeldung per Fax noch nicht erhalten, aber ich gehe davon aus, dass der Transfer über die Bühne geht."
Im Laufe des Dienstags soll dann auch das Bestätigungs-Fax aus Italien eintreffen.
Verwirrungen um Manningers Zukunft
Um die Zukunft von Manninger gab es zuletzt einige Verwirrungen.
Klar schien eigentlich nur, dass der 31-Jährige Salzburg verlassen will und wird.
Doch selbst eine Rückkehr in die Mozartstadt war am Ende nicht mehr ausgeschlossen.
Kein Kontakt zu Juve
Aktuell ranken sich sogar Gerüchte um einen Wechsel zu Juventus Turin.
Der Rekordmeister wollte laut „Gazzetta" den Österreicher als Backup für Buffon verpflichten.
Hochhauser hat aber nie mit Verantwortlichen der „Alten Dame" verhandelt, wie er LAOLA1 verrät.
„Ich weiß nicht, woher die Gerüchte mit Juventus gekommen sind. Aber da war nie etwas dran."
Aufstieg innerhalb der Serie A
Manninger kann mit dem aktuellen Transfer jedoch zufrieden sein, immerhin hat sein künftiger Klub die Serie A auf Platz sieben beendet.
Österreichs Nummer zwei musste dagegen mit Siena, die ihn von Salzburg ausgeliehen haben, gegen den Abstieg kämpfen.
Der gebürtige Salzburger hatte mit seinen zahlreichen Glanzspielen großen Anteil daran, dass die Toskaner die Klasse hielten.
Teamgoalie unterschreibt für 3 Jahre
Das blieb in Italien natürlich nicht unbemerkt. Und trotz Zuschauer-Rolle bei der EURO war „The Cat" heiß begehrt.
Den Zuschlag hat schließlich Udinese bekommen, die Manninger gleich langfristig gebunden haben.
„Meines Wissens nach hat er für drei Jahre unterschrieben. Aber genauere Informationen sind bei Manninger selbst einzuholen", so Hochhauser.
Über die Ablösesumme will der Salzburg-Manager nichts sagen.
„Das haben wir bei Ivanschitz nicht gemacht und werden wir auch bei Manninger nicht tun."
Kurt Vierthaler
LAOLA1.at
Don't they have Handanovic? Maybe he's our guy. BOH!14.07.2008, 18:55 Uhr
Endlich fix: Manninger wechselt zu Udinese
Teamgoalie Alexander Manninger fängt
die Bälle künftig für Udinese
Wien – Nach langen Verhandlungsrunden ist die Zukunft von Alexander Manninger endlich geklärt.
Der Team-Goalie wechselt von Red Bull Salzburg zu Udinese Calcio.
Das bestätigt Heinz Hochhauser, Sportdirektor des österreichischen Vizemeisters, im Gespräch mit LAOLA1.
Nur mehr das Fax fehlt
„Die Entscheidung ist gefallen. Ich habe zwar die endgültige Rückmeldung per Fax noch nicht erhalten, aber ich gehe davon aus, dass der Transfer über die Bühne geht."
Im Laufe des Dienstags soll dann auch das Bestätigungs-Fax aus Italien eintreffen.
Verwirrungen um Manningers Zukunft
Um die Zukunft von Manninger gab es zuletzt einige Verwirrungen.
Klar schien eigentlich nur, dass der 31-Jährige Salzburg verlassen will und wird.
Doch selbst eine Rückkehr in die Mozartstadt war am Ende nicht mehr ausgeschlossen.
Kein Kontakt zu Juve
Aktuell ranken sich sogar Gerüchte um einen Wechsel zu Juventus Turin.
Der Rekordmeister wollte laut „Gazzetta" den Österreicher als Backup für Buffon verpflichten.
Hochhauser hat aber nie mit Verantwortlichen der „Alten Dame" verhandelt, wie er LAOLA1 verrät.
„Ich weiß nicht, woher die Gerüchte mit Juventus gekommen sind. Aber da war nie etwas dran."
Aufstieg innerhalb der Serie A
Manninger kann mit dem aktuellen Transfer jedoch zufrieden sein, immerhin hat sein künftiger Klub die Serie A auf Platz sieben beendet.
Österreichs Nummer zwei musste dagegen mit Siena, die ihn von Salzburg ausgeliehen haben, gegen den Abstieg kämpfen.
Der gebürtige Salzburger hatte mit seinen zahlreichen Glanzspielen großen Anteil daran, dass die Toskaner die Klasse hielten.
Teamgoalie unterschreibt für 3 Jahre
Das blieb in Italien natürlich nicht unbemerkt. Und trotz Zuschauer-Rolle bei der EURO war „The Cat" heiß begehrt.
Den Zuschlag hat schließlich Udinese bekommen, die Manninger gleich langfristig gebunden haben.
„Meines Wissens nach hat er für drei Jahre unterschrieben. Aber genauere Informationen sind bei Manninger selbst einzuholen", so Hochhauser.
Über die Ablösesumme will der Salzburg-Manager nichts sagen.
„Das haben wir bei Ivanschitz nicht gemacht und werden wir auch bei Manninger nicht tun."
Kurt Vierthaler
LAOLA1.at
thx for that link. interesting to see all of the 'not-so important' signings.
@MARK:
Yes, Manninger said he'll go to udinese. He said he's waiting for the response-fax, but everything should be a done deal. He goes on and says that he was NEVER in contact with juve. In fact, he doesn't know where those talks were coming from, but he knows nothing about it.
@MARK:
Yes, Manninger said he'll go to udinese. He said he's waiting for the response-fax, but everything should be a done deal. He goes on and says that he was NEVER in contact with juve. In fact, he doesn't know where those talks were coming from, but he knows nothing about it.
thanks vimo, that sucks!
btw, why that link to this other forum for transfers? Have you looked closely OUR site?
http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24678
btw, why that link to this other forum for transfers? Have you looked closely OUR site?
http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24678
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