No. Because either you admit that it happened or not. There is no yes but I don't consider it a big deal option.
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Like "Just kill millions of our people and if you need any help, just tell us, we'll help you"?
If you want to make a better case you should say that there were certain powerful jewish individuals, or groups, who did see a benefit of a holocaust, and even though they weren't directly involved, they did exactly what was needed for Hitler to start the termination, knowing that Hitler will do it.
Even this is debatable though.
If you want to make a better case you should say that there were certain powerful jewish individuals, or groups, who did see a benefit of a holocaust, and even though they weren't directly involved, they did exactly what was needed for Hitler to start the termination, knowing that Hitler will do it.
Even this is debatable though.
No. It went like this.
Hitler: Hey fella's. I got this great idea. You know how you guys are always talking about having your own nation?
Zionists: Oh course Adolf. We want nothing more than to have a place of our own.
Hitler: I know how that feels. How's Palestine sound?
Zionists: Palestine? You mean the place with Jerusalem? Oi Ve, yes Adolf. Let's do it.
Hitler: Well I need a favor before this happens.
Zionists: Sure anything.
Hitler: Well I'm going to need to exterminate 7-10 million of your closest friends, low ball figures will show it as 3 million - 5 million.
Zionists: You mean if we let you kill almost all of us then the remaining few of us can have our own country?
Hitler: Basically?
Zionists: Sweet count us in.
Hitler: Hey fella's. I got this great idea. You know how you guys are always talking about having your own nation?
Zionists: Oh course Adolf. We want nothing more than to have a place of our own.
Hitler: I know how that feels. How's Palestine sound?
Zionists: Palestine? You mean the place with Jerusalem? Oi Ve, yes Adolf. Let's do it.
Hitler: Well I need a favor before this happens.
Zionists: Sure anything.
Hitler: Well I'm going to need to exterminate 7-10 million of your closest friends, low ball figures will show it as 3 million - 5 million.
Zionists: You mean if we let you kill almost all of us then the remaining few of us can have our own country?
Hitler: Basically?
Zionists: Sweet count us in.
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There are three opinions "beliefs" about the Holocaust
1-Denying it completely
2-Admitting its existence but refusing the 6 millions figure related to it
and beliefs that its an exaggerated one "I belong to this one BTW"
3-Admitting it completely "
First of all don't talk about it and sounded like Its me only who is denying it
because, and i am so sure that u know, a lot of PPL is doing the same as well
The story u have is saying it is 6 millions and i have 2 different stories "opinions"
the first is saying that they were 30.000 only while the other one is saying that it is 500.000-600.000
so its from 30.000-600.000
i know its a big range but with the evidences and justifications both teams applied
to support their thoughts i think its reasonable , and not to mention that even if it is 600.000 which represents the upper boarder "the maximum" its still too far from the Jews figure which is 6 millions
In the matter of fact the Jews themselves used a different figures
12 millions - 6 millions - 3.5 millions in a lot of their books, movies and reports etc
so I guess its OK for both both sides to have a quite big range
now, you r saying that SOMEONE is the only one who is denying it, or, at least ,trying to say so indirectly
tell me about those if you don't mind
Robert Faurisson
David Hoggan "The Myth of the Six Million"
Paul Rassinier
David Irving's "who obviously changed his mind and admit the holocaust to avoid himself from spending 10 years in the Jail
as he didn't change his mind before the trial.
and a lot more
Its quite weired and highly suspicious that a lot of the Holocaust denials did change their opinions after denying it for years!!!
Actually i didn't hear about that big number of writers and historians changing their mind about anything else
Holocaust denial is not something you r hearing for the first time, give it up and try to be rational
and before shifting to another Issue
Holocaust denial depends on 2 things:
1-the Number "6 millions" is an exaggerated one
2-There were no such a thing called gas chambers
to be continued
There are three opinions "beliefs" about the Holocaust
1-Denying it completely
2-Admitting its existence but refusing the 6 millions figure related to it
and beliefs that its an exaggerated one "I belong to this one BTW"
3-Admitting it completely "
First of all don't talk about it and sounded like Its me only who is denying it
because, and i am so sure that u know, a lot of PPL is doing the same as well
The story u have is saying it is 6 millions and i have 2 different stories "opinions"
the first is saying that they were 30.000 only while the other one is saying that it is 500.000-600.000
so its from 30.000-600.000
i know its a big range but with the evidences and justifications both teams applied
to support their thoughts i think its reasonable , and not to mention that even if it is 600.000 which represents the upper boarder "the maximum" its still too far from the Jews figure which is 6 millions
In the matter of fact the Jews themselves used a different figures
12 millions - 6 millions - 3.5 millions in a lot of their books, movies and reports etc
so I guess its OK for both both sides to have a quite big range
now, you r saying that SOMEONE is the only one who is denying it, or, at least ,trying to say so indirectly
tell me about those if you don't mind
Robert Faurisson
David Hoggan "The Myth of the Six Million"
Paul Rassinier
David Irving's "who obviously changed his mind and admit the holocaust to avoid himself from spending 10 years in the Jail
as he didn't change his mind before the trial.
and a lot more
Its quite weired and highly suspicious that a lot of the Holocaust denials did change their opinions after denying it for years!!!
Actually i didn't hear about that big number of writers and historians changing their mind about anything else
Holocaust denial is not something you r hearing for the first time, give it up and try to be rational
and before shifting to another Issue
Holocaust denial depends on 2 things:
1-the Number "6 millions" is an exaggerated one
2-There were no such a thing called gas chambers
to be continued
it could be true but order of exterminating jews is non-existent.it is hypothetical as people are quoting some phrases from Mein Kampf
as i said before zionists don't care about how many jews died.They want Palestine because of their absolute goal.it won't be just a secured home for jews. it will be first step for world domination.
as i said before zionists don't care about how many jews died.They want Palestine because of their absolute goal.it won't be just a secured home for jews. it will be first step for world domination.
6 million is the figure Eichmann mentioned. That's Adolf Eichmann, a Nazi colonel. The guy who came up with the Madagascar plan and the guy you may know better as the one who architected the holocaust. He said that they killed 6 million Jews. The world accepted this figure.
All those who seriously tried to find the number of Jews killed by the Nazi could never reach the 6 mil figure, and most of these people were Jews actually. Numbers were mostly around 5 mil or 5 and a half.
And even they, almost all of them, say that NOT ALL these 5mil victims died in concentration camps. Between 1 mil - 2 mil died from the same reasons many other non-Jews died. You know, when the Nazi were bombing from the air, those bombs didn't choose who to kill. They killed jews and non-Jews.
Many Jews were in the armies that were fighting the Nazi. Those Jews were dying just like the other soldiers. Many Jews died from ghettoization and the conditions there, some died of natural death.
But you still have the Nazi documentation about the murdered and deported Jews, and you know how pedantic the Germans are, and this gives a number of over 3 mil jews who were taken in concentration camps, with big majority of them never coming out of there. It's a Jewish historian who gives the number of 2 900 000 killed in concentration camp actually. So it's not like they say 6 mil were killed there.
All those who seriously tried to find the number of Jews killed by the Nazi could never reach the 6 mil figure, and most of these people were Jews actually. Numbers were mostly around 5 mil or 5 and a half.
And even they, almost all of them, say that NOT ALL these 5mil victims died in concentration camps. Between 1 mil - 2 mil died from the same reasons many other non-Jews died. You know, when the Nazi were bombing from the air, those bombs didn't choose who to kill. They killed jews and non-Jews.
Many Jews were in the armies that were fighting the Nazi. Those Jews were dying just like the other soldiers. Many Jews died from ghettoization and the conditions there, some died of natural death.
But you still have the Nazi documentation about the murdered and deported Jews, and you know how pedantic the Germans are, and this gives a number of over 3 mil jews who were taken in concentration camps, with big majority of them never coming out of there. It's a Jewish historian who gives the number of 2 900 000 killed in concentration camp actually. So it's not like they say 6 mil were killed there.
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Do you know what a zionist is? And how exactly do you intend to prove that they want world domination?
And do you have any proof whatsoever that they architected the Holocaust?
And let me get this straight, they intentionally killed millions of Jews who could have helped them in their quest for world dominaton?
And do you have any proof whatsoever that they architected the Holocaust?
And let me get this straight, they intentionally killed millions of Jews who could have helped them in their quest for world dominaton?
The poll... the poll.Good grief. Where's the "Is the earth round?" poll...
I was planning to say the same things without figures actually
Anyway thanx for the info.
So now we have a new numbers
3 millions out of that 6 millions were killed just like anyone else during that war
and part of that 3 millions were killed in the battle field as a soldgiers so they can't be considered as an innocents , and thats exactly what the Jews are trying to prove, that 6 millions got killed deliberately by Nazis just because they were Jews.
So what is the number of the innocents Jews got killed deliberately as a genocide by Nazis during WW2?
In addition to that
How many Jews out of that 2.9 million got killed in that camps were POW acctually?
I mean taken to that camps as a soldgeirs got cought during the battle?
and how many of that 2.9 millions involved in the conflict in away or another and were not completely innocents?
In the matter of fact
what was the the total population of the Jews were in the conflict area during that persiod?
I meant in theThe submissive areas for the Nazi control?
According to some sources they were 3110722 including those who were in germany itself
The American Jewish Year Book
September 22 ,1941 - September 11,1942
Vol.43
Philadelphia
The Jewish Publication Society of America
No.5702
In addition to that
the first official European Jews census was in 1948 (after the WW2) and the number was about 3 millions
So we have 2 different contraindications here
How r they saying that 6 millions of them got disappeared during that war while their total population was around 3 millions
second thing
according to what they r giving almost a precise numbers while their total population in Europe was unknown or at least highly debatable untill 1948?
to be continued
Anyway thanx for the info.
So now we have a new numbers
3 millions out of that 6 millions were killed just like anyone else during that war
and part of that 3 millions were killed in the battle field as a soldgiers so they can't be considered as an innocents , and thats exactly what the Jews are trying to prove, that 6 millions got killed deliberately by Nazis just because they were Jews.
So what is the number of the innocents Jews got killed deliberately as a genocide by Nazis during WW2?
In addition to that
How many Jews out of that 2.9 million got killed in that camps were POW acctually?
I mean taken to that camps as a soldgeirs got cought during the battle?
and how many of that 2.9 millions involved in the conflict in away or another and were not completely innocents?
In the matter of fact
what was the the total population of the Jews were in the conflict area during that persiod?
I meant in theThe submissive areas for the Nazi control?
According to some sources they were 3110722 including those who were in germany itself
The American Jewish Year Book
September 22 ,1941 - September 11,1942
Vol.43
Philadelphia
The Jewish Publication Society of America
No.5702
In addition to that
the first official European Jews census was in 1948 (after the WW2) and the number was about 3 millions
So we have 2 different contraindications here
How r they saying that 6 millions of them got disappeared during that war while their total population was around 3 millions
second thing
according to what they r giving almost a precise numbers while their total population in Europe was unknown or at least highly debatable untill 1948?
to be continued