The Financial Situation (51 Viewers)

[Quetzalcoatl]

I think it's 133 yearly.
I think las year we got 98 or something.
I might be wrong . @s4tch @U Picciriddu

Yeah, I think it's over the whole period If you add all the clubs' deals up it's ~1.4 billion

And the article says:
"The clubs for their part await fresh resources, which in the first five years of the agreement should amount to a total of 1.4 billion euros ."

1.4 billion a year seems a bit much

 

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[Mark]

shouldn't Serie A get on their knees and thank us?

 

[kappa96]

Yeah, I think it's over the whole period If you add all the clubs' deals up it's ~1.4 billion

And the article says:
"The clubs for their part await fresh resources, which in the first five years of the agreement should amount to a total of 1.4 billion euros ."

1.4 billion a year seems a bit much

If it's over 5 years than it is very little.

In the season 2018/2019, Juventus FC was the Serie A football club registering the highest revenues from TV rights. Data reveal that Juventus' revenues from TV rights amounted to approximately 100 million euros. Moreover, AC Milan and FC Internazioanle Milano registered revenues for 87.3 and 87.2 million euros respectively in that year.
I found this here

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102210/tv-rights-revenues-of-serie-a-football-teams-italy/

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

If it's over 5 years than it is very little.

In the season 2018/2019, Juventus FC was the Serie A football club registering the highest revenues from TV rights. Data reveal that Juventus' revenues from TV rights amounted to approximately 100 million euros. Moreover, AC Milan and FC Internazioanle Milano registered revenues for 87.3 and 87.2 million euros respectively in that year.
I found this here

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102210/tv-rights-revenues-of-serie-a-football-teams-italy/

Okay maybe you're right. I wasn't familiar with how much we were getting before.

Then the article or the translation is misleading.

 

[U Picciriddu]

I think it's 133 yearly.
I think las year we got 98 or something.
I might be wrong . @s4tch @U Picciriddu

I think it are 2 separate things:

-traditional Serie A TV deal which is actually lower than the previous one
-money distribution of the 10% the Lega sold of the media company

 

[U Picciriddu]

Report: DAZN outbids Sky in race for Serie A rights with €850m offer


Italian soccer league seeking 18% uptick on its current contracts for 2021 to 2024 cycle.

• DAZN offers €100m more per season than Sky’s €750m bid, according to Reuters
• Serie A could combine bids to raise value
• Elsewhere, Sky confirms deal for Italy’s Champions League rights until 2024

DAZN has offered €850 million (US$1.02 billion) per season in the race to secure domestic rights to Italian soccer’s Serie A for the 2021 to 2024 cycle as it looks to oust pay-TV network Sky, according to Reuters.
The news agency reports that the digital sports media company’s offer would see it broadcast all matches from the Italian top flight on its streaming app. Sky, meanwhile, has purportedly offered €750 million (US$902 million) per season to show games on its various platforms.
However, with Serie A seeking an 18 per cent increase on its current domestic TV deal, neither bid matched the league’s minimum target of €1.15 billion ($1.38 billion) per season.
While DAZN’s larger financial offer would appear to put it in the driving seat, the Reuters report added that the size of the bid might not be the only criteria for valuing the offers. Serie A clubs are reportedly set to discuss the bids on 8th February.
Last month, Lega Serie A chief executive Luigi De Siervo confirmed that DAZN and Sky, as well as Mediapro and Discovery, had made bids for the league’s pay-TV rights for the 2021 to 2024 cycle.
Since then, Serie A has begun private talks with the broadcasters to try and increase the offers.

• Amazon out of Serie A rights race as DAZN bids to usurp Sky

Under the existing three-year contract, which expires at the end of the current campaign, Serie A receives €973 million (US$1.17 billion) per year from DAZN and Sky, the latter of which has the bulk of games.
While DAZN is keen to wrestle the lion’s share of rights from Sky, Reuters reports that Serie A could raise slightly more than €900 million (US$1.08 billion) by combining DAZN's bid and an offer by Sky to screen some matches on its streaming platform.
Though Sky is yet to secure a Serie A package from next season, the network has acquired rights in Italy to the Uefa Champions League for three years until the end of the 2023/2024 campaign.
Under the terms of the contract, Sky will show 121 of the 137 matches per season from European soccer’s elite club competition. The deal also covers all 282 matches per season from the Uefa Europa League and the new Uefa Europa Conference League.
The remaining 16 Champions League games per season were snapped up by Amazon in December for its Prime Video streaming platform.
The value of Sky’s deal with Uefa, European soccer’s governing body, was not disclosed. Reuters reported in October that Amazon bid between €80 million (US$96.2 million) and €90 million (US$108 million) per season to secure its rights package.

 

[JuveJay]

Report: DAZN outbids Sky in race for Serie A rights with €850m offer


Italian soccer league seeking 18% uptick on its current contracts for 2021 to 2024 cycle.

• DAZN offers €100m more per season than Sky’s €750m bid, according to Reuters
• Serie A could combine bids to raise value
• Elsewhere, Sky confirms deal for Italy’s Champions League rights until 2024

DAZN has offered €850 million (US$1.02 billion) per season in the race to secure domestic rights to Italian soccer’s Serie A for the 2021 to 2024 cycle as it looks to oust pay-TV network Sky, according to Reuters.
The news agency reports that the digital sports media company’s offer would see it broadcast all matches from the Italian top flight on its streaming app. Sky, meanwhile, has purportedly offered €750 million (US$902 million) per season to show games on its various platforms.
However, with Serie A seeking an 18 per cent increase on its current domestic TV deal, neither bid matched the league’s minimum target of €1.15 billion ($1.38 billion) per season.
While DAZN’s larger financial offer would appear to put it in the driving seat, the Reuters report added that the size of the bid might not be the only criteria for valuing the offers. Serie A clubs are reportedly set to discuss the bids on 8th February.
Last month, Lega Serie A chief executive Luigi De Siervo confirmed that DAZN and Sky, as well as Mediapro and Discovery, had made bids for the league’s pay-TV rights for the 2021 to 2024 cycle.
Since then, Serie A has begun private talks with the broadcasters to try and increase the offers.

• Amazon out of Serie A rights race as DAZN bids to usurp Sky

Under the existing three-year contract, which expires at the end of the current campaign, Serie A receives €973 million (US$1.17 billion) per year from DAZN and Sky, the latter of which has the bulk of games.
While DAZN is keen to wrestle the lion’s share of rights from Sky, Reuters reports that Serie A could raise slightly more than €900 million (US$1.08 billion) by combining DAZN's bid and an offer by Sky to screen some matches on its streaming platform.
Though Sky is yet to secure a Serie A package from next season, the network has acquired rights in Italy to the Uefa Champions League for three years until the end of the 2023/2024 campaign.
Under the terms of the contract, Sky will show 121 of the 137 matches per season from European soccer’s elite club competition. The deal also covers all 282 matches per season from the Uefa Europa League and the new Uefa Europa Conference League.
The remaining 16 Champions League games per season were snapped up by Amazon in December for its Prime Video streaming platform.
The value of Sky’s deal with Uefa, European soccer’s governing body, was not disclosed. Reuters reported in October that Amazon bid between €80 million (US$96.2 million) and €90 million (US$108 million) per season to secure its rights package.

Trying to read this in dark mode like

 

[Paid-off-Ref]

What a shit deal. Am I missing something or isn't this a decrease from the current deal? I know we are in a middle of a pandemic but the next deal is until 2024.

 

[Valerio.]

What a shit deal. Am I missing something or isn't this a decrease from the current deal? I know we are in a middle of a pandemic but the next deal is until 2024.

ye slightly less... but compared to other leagues Serie A isn't losing much

 

[s4tch]

What a shit deal. Am I missing something or isn't this a decrease from the current deal? I know we are in a middle of a pandemic but the next deal is until 2024.

unfortunately it's normal and expected with corona. next period will be much better

 

[U Picciriddu]

ye slightly less... but compared to other leagues Serie A isn't losing much

What did the other leagues get?

 

[Cerval]

unfortunately it's normal and expected with corona. next period will be much better

Amazon pulled out somehow but they obviously overwhelmingly have the means in addition to growth during the pandemic. They just don't think serie A is even worth the latest rumored price lol

 

[juve123]

unfortunately it's normal and expected with corona. next period will be much better

How much difference will it make with distribution of TV revenue in Italy it is better when clubs negotiate individually for TV rights especially with Ronaldo in our team

 

[s4tch]

How much difference will it make with distribution of TV revenue in Italy it is better when clubs negotiate individually for TV rights especially with Ronaldo in our team

haha, not necessary. i'll try to find the last tv deal distribution numbers compared to the previous one, it was a bad joke

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here it is:


as far as i know, this is the last time they changed the distribution percentages. just look at the two blue lines: from '17/18 to '18/19, they changed the numbers so that the last season matters a bit more, but the last 5 seasons and the historical contribution's share decreased. back in the days, i compared it to the previous years' numbers, and juve was literally the only team that lost some money, despite giving this shitty league an overall better deal and the cr effect for free.

yeah, inda have apparently more fans than juve

 

[kappa96]

haha, not necessary. i'll try to find the last tv deal distribution numbers compared to the previous one, it was a bad joke

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here it is:


as far as i know, this is the last time they changed the distribution percentages. just look at the two blue lines: from '17/18 to '18/19, they changed the numbers so that the last season matters a bit more, but the last 5 seasons and the historical contribution's share decreased. back in the days, i compared it to the previous years' numbers, and juve was literally the only team that lost some money, despite giving this shitty league an overall better deal and the cr effect for free.

yeah, inda have apparently more fans than juve

Who made the poll, Moratti?

 

[s4tch]

Who made the poll, Moratti?

it's not public

seriously, the tv money is distributed using a methodology which is not completely transparent.

just for comparison's sake, the supporters column (not the numbers, but the proportions) looked totally different for '12/13:

but inda gained a lot of fans since then

also notice the proportions: in 2013, juve received 103,8 out of 950, which was 10,9% of the total amount. in '19, we only got 7,4%, while lifting this shitty league and making it visible around the globe.

but but but rubentus

 

[U Picciriddu]

haha, not necessary. i'll try to find the last tv deal distribution numbers compared to the previous one, it was a bad joke

- - - Updated - - -

here it is:


as far as i know, this is the last time they changed the distribution percentages. just look at the two blue lines: from '17/18 to '18/19, they changed the numbers so that the last season matters a bit more, but the last 5 seasons and the historical contribution's share decreased. back in the days, i compared it to the previous years' numbers, and juve was literally the only team that lost some money, despite giving this shitty league an overall better deal and the cr effect for free.

yeah, inda have apparently more fans than juve

I remember that we got ~10m less.
So we are probably the only team that wants to compete for CL without a good increase in income in 2 consecutive TV deals.

But I think it’s the tv deal and the share of the 10% that’s sold of the media company, so hopefully in the end a (small) increase.

Im really happy that our focus has been on increasing the commercial revenues since we signed Ronaldo, i remember that those incomes were disappointing in the past.

Read this one btw: https://www.calcioefinanza.it/2021/02/04/serie-a-ricavi-diritti-tv-2-mld/

 

[s4tch]

I remember that we got ~10m less.
So we are probably the only team that wants to compete for CL without a good increase in income in 2 consecutive TV deals.

yeah, i remembered something similar but wasn't sure.

and some wonder why agnelli supports the super league

 

[U Picciriddu]

yeah, i remembered something similar but wasn't sure.

and some wonder why agnelli supports the super league

It sucks, hopefully some good news, tomorrow should be a decisive day for all these deals.

I think that the board realized just at the right time that we had to change the financial structures at the club, im so curious to see what our financial position is at the end of next summer mercato. We need to continue lowering the salaries, and stop underperforming in CL like last 2 years. And of course some new sponsors like every summer, but we’re so dependent on the whole covid situation that effects the world economy massively. Difficult position to be in, but the most difficult part regarding the salaries is already done imo.

Previous seasons I didnt care to much about winning the Coppa for example, now every euro counts.

 

[juve123]

It sucks, hopefully some good news, tomorrow should be a decisive day for all these deals.

I think that the board realized just at the right time that we had to change the financial structures at the club, im so curious to see what our financial position is at the end of next summer mercato. We need to continue lowering the salaries, and stop underperforming in CL like last 2 years. And of course some new sponsors like every summer, but we’re so dependent on the whole covid situation that effects the world economy massively. Difficult position to be in, but the most difficult part regarding the salaries is already done imo.

Previous seasons I don’t care to much about winning the Coppa for example, now every euro counts.

The world is heading for a financial crisis so football will be no different