The Financial Situation (25 Viewers)

lgorTudor

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Ocelot

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Why are matches with less than 40k visitors marked as sold out?
http://www.transfermarkt.com/juventus-turin/spielplan/verein/506/saison_id/2014


@Hydde probably "shiny new stadium" effect gone and ppl turn back to their sky receivers
It's usually season ticket holders who don't show up. Their seats are counted as sold, but the stadium still isn't full.

I think there's a system in place where the season ticket holders can make their seats available for individual games they can't/don't want to attend, but it's not working that well.
 

piotrr

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lgorTudor

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PedroFlu

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The ceilling is there. Commercial will improve as the team does well in Europe.

But yeah, I don't think that much can be done about it. But with a top 10 revenue in Europe we can contend if management do a great job.
 

Hydde

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damn....

hardcore

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The ceilling is there. Commercial will improve as the team does well in Europe.

But yeah, I don't think that much can be done about it. But with a top 10 revenue in Europe we can contend if management do a great job.
Yup. we need to be aware that we will never ever get top heavyweights standard in income as long as this league continue being pathetic. We will have to keep marota as long as possible because we will need him in the coming 10 years or so to continue finding pogbas and future stars.

Thats our only way,
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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The ceilling is there. Commercial will improve as the team does well in Europe.

But yeah, I don't think that much can be done about it. But with a top 10 revenue in Europe we can contend if management do a great job.
Not to sound pessimistic but i think staying in Top 8-10 could prove to be a challenge once the new PL TV deal kicks in.Not to mention PL teams are getting sponsors(and lucrative ones) at a faster rate than even the best Italian teams.
One thing is clear is that the economic disparity between PL and other leagues is gonna be enormous in a few yrs time.Inflation on transfer fees is going to be unprecedented.
And we cant say for sure if the PL's new homegrown rules is gonna ever limit the spending.If anything,English players would probably break records in transfer market lol.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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It's usually season ticket holders who don't show up. Their seats are counted as sold, but the stadium still isn't full.

I think there's a system in place where the season ticket holders can make their seats available for individual games they can't/don't want to attend, but it's not working that well.
yes, and i guess it's also viking buying a couple of hundreds of tickets that they're trying to resell for double or triple the original prices and won't sell eventually. (i hope it makes sense.)
 

PedroFlu

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Sep 20, 2011
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Yep. Even if the league improves, and I believe it will. I mean, with a strong Milan this is already a strong league IMO. There are a lot of traditional, well supported clubs with good teams.

A few years ago Napoli was on Serie C, Fiorentina was bankrupt, Genoa and Sampdoria were on Serie B, Torino was perennial at Serie B, Palermo and Udinese were sheat with only washed up old Italian players...

These teams improved a lot and made it a tough league IMO, very interesting to watch.

Milanese teams are the ones who fucked it up. But Shinter should go back to Roma status soon, and Milan sooner or later will receive huge foreing investment and be on par with Juve.

Roma will build a new stadium, Milan will do it later.. clubs will keep improving.

The biggest ceilling IMO is the poor economic condition of the country. England and Germany are miles away, and nowadays, economic situation is determinant to a league's quality, unlike 20 years ago. Spain is weird because of all the favours and privileges the big 2 have.

But I do believe in a few years Serie A will be on par with Bundesliga, and not far from EPL in terms of football quality.

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Not to sound pessimistic but i think staying in Top 8-10 could prove to be a challenge once the new PL TV deal kicks in.Not to mention PL teams are getting sponsors(and lucrative ones) at a faster rate than even the best Italian teams.
One thing is clear is that the economic disparity between PL and other leagues is gonna be enormous in a few yrs time.Inflation on transfer fees is going to be unprecedented.
And we cant say for sure if the PL's new homegrown rules is gonna ever limit the spending.If anything,English players would probably break records in transfer market lol.
That's probably truth. But I don't see them running away with their best players solely based on money. They are too British for that. Dat British pride. :)
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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Yep,this league needs another strong team,a strong Milan would be ideal(Sorry @Elvin)

Even if Milan somehow go oil club mode in the market and as a result bring a lot of attention to this league,lets just say Juventus would find it much easier to attract international sponsors being the best team in the country and all.Its all in Juve's best interests at the end of the day.
 

PedroFlu

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Sep 20, 2011
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Yep,this league needs another strong team,a strong Milan would be ideal(Sorry @Elvin)

Even if Milan somehow go oil club mode in the market and as a result bring a lot of attention to this league,lets just say Juventus would find it much easier to attract international sponsors being the best team in the country and all.Its all in Juve's best interests at the end of the day.

I really want things to remain as they are, I want Juve to dominate the next century.

But yes, an oil Milan would be great for the League. But it's almost dangeours, because they may have too much money for anyonse else to match, and they could dominate. So it could suck. And we will never go oil.

The most likely scenarium is Milan going oil and back to being good, but not dominant, though.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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Man United under SAF had to contend with two oil clubs and he did a damn fine job at it despite not spending anywhere to the levels of both those oil teams.
I'd envision Juve being somewhere close to that if Milan do go oil club mode that is.

Next year,there's a chance we can come close to that 400m revenue figure if we have another successful European season so its not like Juve would be left too far behind either.Juve just need smart investments like Bayern and they'll continue to remain competitive in any event Milan spend crazy.
 

Fr3sh

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Jul 12, 2011
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Man United under SAF had to contend with two oil clubs and he did a damn fine job at it despite not spending anywhere to the levels of both those oil teams.
I'd envision Juve being somewhere close to that if Milan do go oil club mode that is.

Next year,there's a chance we can come close to that 400m revenue figure if we have another successful European season so its not like Juve would be left too far behind either.Juve just need smart investments like Bayern and they'll continue to remain competitive in any event Milan spend crazy.
How would we hit 400million next year? We barely hit 300 this year.
 

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