The Financial Situation (192 Viewers)

[Espectro]

Juventus will have red numbers again

I'm confused about this... didn't Juventus receive a massive money boost form Exor to cover the looses?

 

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[s4tch]

Juventus will have red numbers again

I'm confused about this... didn't Juventus receive a massive money boost form Exor to cover the looses?

for the current financial year, that started in july

calcioefinanza posted about the previous financial year, which finished in june

 

[italiacalcio10]

Juventus will have red numbers again

I'm confused about this... didn't Juventus receive a massive money boost form Exor to cover the looses?

It doesn’t matter if you inject money or not. A loss is a loss. You can lose €500M, inject €500M, you still will have a loss because a capital injection isn’t revenue. But in terms of this loss, it’s backward looking. Next years numbers will be better - probably a slight loss. I and then perhaps a profit the following year. Of course, this depends on how well they do and how much they spend on transfers.


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[juve123]

It doesn’t matter if you inject money or not. A loss is a loss. You can lose €500M, inject €500M, you still will have a loss because a capital injection isn’t revenue. But in terms of this loss, it’s backward looking. Next years numbers will be better - probably a slight loss. I and then perhaps a profit the following year. Of course, this depends on how well they do and how much they spend on transfers.


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Don't tell me that our financial situation is as bad as Barcelona or inter

 

[.zero]

Barça is in >$1b in debt

Juve is less than $500m iirc and reporting those losses

 

[italiacalcio10]

Don't tell me that our financial situation is as bad as Barcelona or inter

Not even close. After the equity issuance, our net debt will be effectively 0. Barcelona doesn’t have a sugar daddy to plug the losses.


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[ilmetronome]

Not even close. After the equity issuance, our net debt will be effectively 0. Barcelona doesn’t have a sugar daddy to plug the losses.


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you mean we will pay all our debt with that 400m capital inject?

 

[spurdo]

Juve going to close the year with 190m in losses according to Calcio e Finanza.

 

[The Quazis]

Fans hate the mercato that has been carried out, saying that the management was unprepared etc. but IMO this was the goal: positive balance and reduction of costs, mostly salaries while refreshing the squad with younger players. I'd expect this trend to be continued in the following years but probably not so drastically/on such a big scale. We still have a lot of players to be offloaded though, so potential saving are still there.

As I said in the other thread: nobody said the cleanup process would be pretty (thanks Tici). On sporting level I just hope that Max figures the shit out quickly and tries a few approaches before settling for one. He won't be fired anyway, he's part of the cleanup process.

I read somewhere the plan is to have a core of top Italian talent aided by a few top foreign players.
It seems reasonable and our last few transfers confirm that approach. Basically it is something Juve has been doing its whole history.

 

[s4tch]

you mean we will pay all our debt with that 400m capital inject?

he meant that we could pay that. but we won't, and it's fine. a stronger team should be the priority.

 

[Siamak]

CIES : As they tend to do at the end of each transfer window, the CIES Football Observatory have drawn up a ranking of the most expensive squads assembled in Europe.

It is no surprise that the study (via MilanLive) has Manchester City as the club that has spent the most to compose their current squad with €1.08bn spent, while Manchester United are in second place with €961m spent. In third place is PSG whose squad cost €939m, and they are ahead of Real Madrid (€787m) and Chelsea (€780m).

Liverpool (€672m), Juventus (€657m), Arsenal (€630m), Barcelona (€578m) and Tottenham (€551m) also find themselves in the top four, and it is quite a way down before Milan come onto the list.

milan occupy 24th place in the raning with their squad having cost €287m. In terms of other Italian clubs, Napoli are behind Juve occupying 14th place with €417m spent, while Roma are 16th (€362m) and Inter are 19th (€341m). Atalanta – for comparison – spent just €189m.

 

[ilmetronome]

he meant that we could pay that. but we won't, and it's fine. a stronger team should be the priority.

Agree. We don't have to.pay all our debt instantly. We just need to make a plan of our cast forecasting regarding our debt payment over years.
I don't think our net current debt (current debt.minus current receivable) exceed 150M.
Afterall half capacity stadium should give us enough space to breath.
I think with proper plan we can build great team in 2 years.

 

[The Quazis]

First of all, they should open the stadiums in 100%.

 

[italiacalcio10]

he meant that we could pay that. but we won't, and it's fine. a stronger team should be the priority.

Exactly.


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[italiacalcio10]

Agree. We don't have to.pay all our debt instantly. We just need to make a plan of our cast forecasting regarding our debt payment over years.
I don't think our net current debt (current debt.minus current receivable) exceed 150M.
Afterall half capacity stadium should give us enough space to breath.
I think with proper plan we can build great team in 2 years.

Yeah, they def won’t. At minimum, they have a €175M bond due in 2024 that they literally can’t pay off until then. The rest are likely more discretionary as they’re credit facilities. But realistically they probably just refinance the bond then. That’s what most companies do.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

First of all, they should open the stadiums in 100%.

before that, they should build a proper stadium, so that we can come close to revenues of the clubs above us.

 

[Juventinoo]

before that, they should build a proper stadium, so that we can come close to revenues of the clubs above us.

We barely fill it ...

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

doesnt matter. most of the spaces are season ticket holders that didn't show up. each year we are losing millions by turning down the thousands of people who want to attend in big games.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

doesnt matter. most of the spaces are season ticket holders that didn't show up. each year we are losing millions by turning down the thousands of people who want to attend in big games.

You really don't have a clue, do you?

 

[Snobist]

No problem. We sell De Ligt and Chiesa and we make profit. We also let Dybala go for free in January. No need to panic.

p.s. as long as Berna is around no need to worry.