That i can agree with.
I just don't understand how a lot of people are fooled by him
I just don't understand how a lot of people are fooled by him
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Yeah, I'm the real hypocrite
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Wow what an applicable analogy 
"Islam was not designed or produced or written for a medieval desert society". I just wanted to show how lame his concluding was for proving the line above.
And you judge me only by that?
In fact, beliefs are more likely to make someone be biased comparing to disbeliefs and this is why the most biased ones in religious threads happen to be the religious ones. They take everything opposed to their creeds as something disrespectful while nothing is able to disdain non-religious people' disbeliefs.
Reading this thread, I'd say Fred, Tahir, Ahmed and Eddy could have defended Islam much better if they hadn't been as biased and easily offended as what they really are.
One would have thought that a society with at least some Islamic values, such as Iran or Saudi Arabia, would work better than secular countries.
I suppose, according to you, that it has to do with personal freedom allowing more correct interpretations of Islam being taught and followed.
This leads me to my question: Do you believe that a society which followed the Koran to every word would be compatible with democracy, liberty and human rights (in all departments - no exceptions)? Don't consider this a dig at Islam in particular, I'd just like your unbiased opinion.
I suppose, according to you, that it has to do with personal freedom allowing more correct interpretations of Islam being taught and followed.
This leads me to my question: Do you believe that a society which followed the Koran to every word would be compatible with democracy, liberty and human rights (in all departments - no exceptions)? Don't consider this a dig at Islam in particular, I'd just like your unbiased opinion.
Now that's the problem. I won't go into deeper historic interpretations (you could argue that Mohammad did the very same thing, but I won't). What's more important is that the argument you put forward whenever something bad happens in the name of Islam is this: "that's not the real Islam".
But they might say the same thing, Fred. Hell, they might even be right up to a point. Like I said before, if you have a text that is written in the Middle Ages, I am sure that you can find references to a holy war in which you can kill infidels. This is not an Islamic problem per se, because obviously christianity has had to face it as well. The thing is though that christians can change their ideals, they can manipulate their religion so it might fit into today's world. I find that a comforting idea.
But they might say the same thing, Fred. Hell, they might even be right up to a point. Like I said before, if you have a text that is written in the Middle Ages, I am sure that you can find references to a holy war in which you can kill infidels. This is not an Islamic problem per se, because obviously christianity has had to face it as well. The thing is though that christians can change their ideals, they can manipulate their religion so it might fit into today's world. I find that a comforting idea.