The dark side of Dubai (6 Viewers)

[Turk_Bianconero]

agreed, actually i'll stop when turk admits that it is against his religion to hate, and therefore, he doesnt really hate inter or moratti or telecom italia

Hate is against my religion. I hate inter and moratti and telecom italia because i am not representing any perfection. ok?

This is your (plural) biggest problem. If you try to idolize somebody as a monument of a religion, you can criticize that religion because of their faults. But this is laughable because you can't bash a religion because of the wrong deeds of a mere follower.

for example
this educated,sophisticated western man called seven is trying to bash Islam because of some article about slavery and some other problems in dubai. But he doesn't know that Islam taught us that every single human (sultan or slave,black or blond or slant eye) is equal. No need to mention that the same western world (world of freedom and illumination) was discussing about african people (are they chimp or low kind of human race) in recent past. This well educated western man is pointing at Dubai ,which is a completely un-Islamic place, as reference for his smelling opinion.And he is moaning about why those ''uneducated warmongerers'' are talking bad about him and his opinion.
Same guy keeps talking about human rights and freedom while he is insulting more than 1 billion people because of their religion,because they are not sharing same thoughts with him,because they are believing something he doesn't believe and showing us greatest example of hypocrisy of the highest order.

That's why you should keep bashing Muslims until you solve some problems about yourself, Seven. If one day such a vile person like you starts praising us that would be our biggest sorrow.

 

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[JCK]

.But he doesn't know that Islam taught us that every single human (sultan or slave,black or blond or slant eye) is equal

If you say you're a muslim and that's what your religion has taught you then deep down you know that Moggi is equal to Moratti.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

i was just gonna ask that

 

[Zé Tahir]

Funny you should use the word barking. It's funny coming from a guy with a highly ritualistic religion in which shouting is one of the most important aspects. The ability to be offended is simply too huge in muslims.

What's also very funny is that we wouldn't have this discussion if we were talking about Scientology. Because everyone thinks Scientologists are idiots. Just like everyone thinks Jainism is for morons.

But because your sect is more succesful I have to respect it. That's the difference you know. There are more muslims than there are scientologists, but you're all the same. You're as much of a nutter as Tom Cruise is.

Shouting is one of the most important aspects?? What are you talking about? If you're going to be trying to offend people, at least do it right. Get your fucking facts straight.

I don't think Jainism is for morons but I do think you are a moron.


edit: I find it funny that you think you're immune from being made fun of. Surely you don't really don't believe this do you? I mean you're sad, pathetic, ignorant (probably as much as a trailer-trash redneck from middle America), you get a kick out of insulting others and making rash comments (there was a time for that and it was called Elementary School and most people grow out of it), you have invisible brothers, you have a superiority complex (which everyone knows stems from an inferiority complex), you spend most of your personal time mulling over others religious beliefs (not many people spend their time in leisure thinking of such) and I'm pretty sure you were raped at some point in your life.

Hey maybe you're right, these things are nothing to joke about, it's serious shit.

 

[Snoop]

Let's make a thread about the dark side of Turkey

 

[Seven]

Funny you should use the word barking. It's funny coming from a guy with a highly ritualistic religion in which shouting is one of the most important aspects. The ability to be offended is simply too huge in muslims.

What's also very funny is that we wouldn't have this discussion if we were talking about Scientology. Because everyone thinks Scientologists are idiots. Just like everyone thinks Jainism is for morons.

But because your sect is more succesful I have to respect it. That's the difference you know. There are more muslims than there are scientologists, but you're all the same. You're as much of a nutter as Tom Cruise is.

Shouting is one of the most important aspects?? What are you talking about? If you're going to be trying to offend people, at least do it right. Get your fucking facts straight.

I don't think Jainism is for morons but I do think you are a moron.


edit: I find it funny that you think you're immune from being made fun of. Surely you don't really don't believe this do you? I mean you're sad, pathetic, ignorant (probably as much as a trailer-trash redneck from middle America), you get a kick out of insulting others and making rash comments (there was a time for that and it was called Elementary School and most people grow out of it), you have invisible brothers, you have a superiority complex (which everyone knows stems from an inferiority complex), you spend most of your personal time mulling over others religious beliefs (not many people spend their time in leisure thinking of such) and I'm pretty sure you were raped at some point in your life.

Hey maybe you're right, these things are nothing to joke about, it's serious shit.

Who was the mod again?

You really don't think Jainism is idiotic? And I see you conveniently left out Scientology. How about that..

And yes, shouting IS an important aspect in Islam. Like I said, it's ritualistic.

 

[Zé Tahir]

Who was the mod again?

You really don't think Jainism is idiotic? And I see you conveniently left out Scientology. How about that..

And yes, shouting IS an important aspect in Islam. Like I said, it's ritualistic.

No, I don't think Jainism is idiotic but I don't believe in it. Even if I did think it was idiotic I wouldn't run around saying that it is and same goes for Scientology.

Again, please explain how shouting is an important aspect of Islam. And please don't tell me you're not referring to the call to prayer.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

Even if I did think it was idiotic I wouldn't run around saying that it is and same goes for Scientology.

why not? that's the problem for religion. they are too "sacred" to stand scrutiny

 

[Zé Tahir]

why not? that's the problem for religion. they are too "sacred" to stand scrutiny

This is what you don't comprehend or refuse to. I have no problems discussing or arguing my religion or any religion for that matter. I invite anyone to discuss it with me and feel free to disagree all you want!

But you don't want to do that. You resort to insult. I don't consider you saying "blank prophet or God is a [insert insult/four letter word]" an argument.

It's common sense really, and it has very little to do with religion being "sacred" I wouldn't like it if someone came up to me and said "hey your car is a piece of shit" and my car is far from being sacred.

 

[Alen]

This is what you don't comprehend or refuse to. I have no problems discussing or arguing my religion or any religion for that matter. I invite anyone to discuss it with me and feel free to disagree all you want!

But you don't want to do that. You resort to insult. I don't consider you saying "blank prophet or God is a [insert insult/four letter word]" an argument.

It's common sense really, and it has very little to do with religion being "sacred" I wouldn't like it if someone came up to me and said "hey your car is a piece of shit" and my car is far from being sacred.

You did tell me that you don't want to talk about your religion with "someone who has no clue about it" when i tried to talk about it with you.
Later you did talk about it with me but it was obvious that you're taking a different opinion way to emotionally and personally, even though i never had an intention to make fun of your religion, nor did i do it unintentionally.
I noticed this same behaviour in many other religious people, mostly muslims, so personally i stopped going deeper into these religious discussions/arguments. But i can't say that religious people have no problem discussing or arguing religion with people who hold different opinion.

@ Seven,
Tahir is right though. You always resort to insult.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

some of the best discussions i have had were with my supervisor, a devoted muslim who, according to him, has spent the last 18 years of his life studying religion. he didnt see a problem with me "not knowing" i made my point, he made his point, we corrected each other as necessary and we moved on.

 

[Seven]

No, I don't think Jainism is idiotic but I don't believe in it. Even if I did think it was idiotic I wouldn't run around saying that it is and same goes for Scientology.

Again, please explain how shouting is an important aspect of Islam. And please don't tell me you're not referring to the call to prayer.

"The call of prayer" Shouting is shouting. And don't lie. Makes you look bad. You think scientology is stupid.

why not? that's the problem for religion. they are too "sacred" to stand scrutiny

You did tell me that you don't want to talk about your religion with "someone who has no clue about it" when i tried to talk about it with you.
Later you did talk about it with me but it was obvious that you're taking a different opinion way to emotionally and personally, even though i never had an intention to make fun of your religion, nor did i do it unintentionally.
I noticed this same behaviour in many other religious people, mostly muslims, so personally i stopped going deeper into these religious discussions/arguments. But i can't say that religious people have no problem discussing or arguing religion with people who hold different opinion.

@ Seven,
Tahir is right though. You always resort to insult.

I think that after 1400 years of being called an infidel I have my rights to do so.

 

[Seven]

This is what you don't comprehend or refuse to. I have no problems discussing or arguing my religion or any religion for that matter. I invite anyone to discuss it with me and feel free to disagree all you want!

But you don't want to do that. You resort to insult. I don't consider you saying "blank prophet or God is a [insert insult/four letter word]" an argument.

It's common sense really, and it has very little to do with religion being "sacred" I wouldn't like it if someone came up to me and said "hey your car is a piece of shit" and my car is far from being sacred.

Well then, perhaps I don't consider the prophet is holy an argument either .

Just for the record: I believe in turtles. I think that somewhere in the universe there is a turtle king who pulls all the strings. Please respect my faith.

 

[Seven]

Hate is against my religion. I hate inter and moratti and telecom italia because i am not representing any perfection. ok?

This is your (plural) biggest problem. If you try to idolize somebody as a monument of a religion, you can criticize that religion because of their faults. But this is laughable because you can't bash a religion because of the wrong deeds of a mere follower.

for example
this educated,sophisticated western man called seven is trying to bash Islam because of some article about slavery and some other problems in dubai. But he doesn't know that Islam taught us that every single human (sultan or slave,black or blond or slant eye) is equal. No need to mention that the same western world (world of freedom and illumination) was discussing about african people (are they chimp or low kind of human race) in recent past. This well educated western man is pointing at Dubai ,which is a completely un-Islamic place, as reference for his smelling opinion.And he is moaning about why those ''uneducated warmongerers'' are talking bad about him and his opinion.
Same guy keeps talking about human rights and freedom while he is insulting more than 1 billion people because of their religion,because they are not sharing same thoughts with him,because they are believing something he doesn't believe and showing us greatest example of hypocrisy of the highest order.

That's why you should keep bashing Muslims until you solve some problems about yourself, Seven. If one day such a vile person like you starts praising us that would be our biggest sorrow.

That's funny because all religions make a very distinct difference between people who believe in them and people who don't. But you're actually saying that I get to bang my fair share of virings in heaven as well?

 

[Azzurri7]

Andries

I don't want to start with the you know I like you and you're one my fav because you know all this by now, but seriously, it's like you ask for these type of replies/posts.


Juve_curr posts an article to discuss something, all you do is say Allah Akbar and throw a sentence or two to provoke a big part of our members here. I'm sorry but I've never heard anyone [muslim member] trying to show off and enlighten others about his sects/religion but rather you're the one asking them and since you're asking them in this way, you're not going to get the reply you expect at times.


Some of the posters replying back at you, don't believe in Religion themselves, but they have a point when they say that you're asking for these type of heated arguments. It's like this always.


Another thing that amazes me and it always comes across my mind when I hear you insulting the prophet for example is that once you made a big drama and had to comment back at me when I called Zlatan Zingaro. Saying that it's a racist thing to call him that. But on the other hand, you insult the Prophet and Jesus most of the times just to make your point when discussing religion/sensitive topics.

I don't see the logic in your way, really.

 

[Seven]

Andries

I don't want to start with the you know I like you and you're one my fav because you know all this by now, but seriously, it's like you ask for these type of replies/posts.


Juve_curr posts an article to discuss something, all you do is say Allah Akbar and throw a sentence or two to provoke a big part of our members here. I'm sorry but I've never heard anyone [muslim member] trying to show off and enlighten others about his sects/religion but rather you're the one asking them and since you're asking them in this way, you're not going to get the reply you expect at times.


Some of the posters replying back at you, don't believe in Religion themselves, but they have a point when they say that you're asking for these type of heated arguments. It's like this always.


Another thing that amazes me and it always comes across my mind when I hear you insulting the prophet for example is that once you made a big drama and had to comment back on me when I called Zlatan Zingaro. Saying that it's a racist thing to call him that. But on the other hand, you insult the Prophet and Jesus most of the times just to make your point when discussing religion/sensitive topics.

I don't see the logic in your way, really.

Racism is aimed at something you cannot change. You cannot stop being a zingaro. And let's not act as if there is no real risk involved with Islam. Puhlease. It is not the most peaceful religion out there. In fact I'd say the opposite. But hey, we know the arguments. They aren't real muslims. That's not true Islam. Maybe real Nazism was decent as well.

But hey, perhaps I'm wrong and it's just coincidence that the muslim world is "the poorest, the most illiterate, the most backward, the most unhealthy, the most un-enlightened, the most deprived, and the weakest of all the human race"

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Who knows?

note: most posters replying back at me who don't believe in religion always reply. In casu Lion.

 

[Bjerknes]

ALLAH AHKBAR ZINGARO!!!!!

 

[The Curr]

ALLAH AHKBAR ZINGARO!!!!!

:rofl2: Post of the month

 

[Zé Tahir]

You did tell me that you don't want to talk about your religion with "someone who has no clue about it" when i tried to talk about it with you.
Later you did talk about it with me but it was obvious that you're taking a different opinion way to emotionally and personally, even though i never had an intention to make fun of your religion, nor did i do it unintentionally.
I noticed this same behaviour in many other religious people, mostly muslims, so personally i stopped going deeper into these religious discussions/arguments. But i can't say that religious people have no problem discussing or arguing religion with people who hold different opinion.

@ Seven,
Tahir is right though. You always resort to insult.

You're obviously taking something out of context here. I wouldn't say that for no reason.

"I noticed this behaviour in many other religious people"

lol thank you for bunching us all up, I've noticed a behaviour in atheists as well: most of them are pompous, conceited, and filled with extreme hubris.

"The call of prayer" Shouting is shouting. And don't lie. Makes you look bad. You think scientology is stupid.

Are you mentally stable? How is that shouting? That's like saying Belgians are involved in shouting rituals: Every Saturday/Sunday they gather in an arena wearing team shirts and shout slogans. Does that make any sense??

It doesn't matter what I think about Scientology, it's what I say. Racism wouldn't be a problem if people only "thought" that way and refrained from acting or speaking out.

I think that after 1400 years of being called an infidel I have my rights to do so.

Even if that was true, why are you offended by a "non-existent" term? I wouldn't be offended if I was called an infidel by a group of people that believed in the tooth ferry. And by your understanding, we're the same.

Well then, perhaps I don't consider the prophet is holy an argument either .

Fine. Good for you

 

[Il Re]

i have to say that the article is spot on, i have no love for dubai