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Seven

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ßömßäяdîëя;1432136 said:
I just happened to talk to him when he got a call, what's the point?
I made a joke of him talking to you while holding a police siren. Never mind. The thing with Vinman is, if Vinman is real because I don't believe anyone can be like that, he's fucking dangerous. That is, if there are lots lof people like him. You can only begin to imagine the mass hysteria and the cry for blood. He's a warmonger.
 

Seven

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He might be good at his job, but his political views are incredible. He has no understanding of the world outside the US whatsoever. He even thinks he's an actual Italian FFS.
 

Seven

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I don't diss his job. I diss him. The image he's trying to build here is just ridiculous. 'I'm a big mean cop'. Come on Bürke, you know he tries to win arguments by telling us the size of his biceps.

Besides, it's great there are cops, no doubt. I have a certain respect for guys who are, or should be, making the streets safe. But that doesn't mean I have to bow down in awe every time the Great Vinman says something on an internet forum. Because for all we know, he isn't even a cop. It's intelligence and arguments that matter here.

I don't have Skype BTW.
 
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I feel some of this, but his bull-headedness is not because of his job.... it's because of how he was raised, and if you want to get into that, why not rip on Muslims that hate jews just because of Isreal?

And cops to you are different than they are to me...cope here are like military, cops over there are like hall monitors in middle school.

Well you need to get it...it would actually be fun talking to my man heck up on the low.

But yo, I'm out for the night.

But keep it real, I'll holla at you in the morning.
 
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Gill_juve

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    Vinni is a good guy. Many here do not like him very much because of the way he harshly criticizes Juventus when we do not light up the pitch with amazing football, and that's when people start to insult or castigate him. Perhaps some of these people state that Vinni knows nothing about football after blasting the manager and players, but he usually has a point, even if it's sometimes a hardline stance. Then once Vinni responds with an insult or counter-insult, things start becoming messy.

    People love to exploit the fact that he's an officer in their insults, but that is rather idiotic to do such a thing repeatedly in my opinion. A person's profession has no bearing on football knoweldge.
    fair enough, but neither does my age or my name have anything to do with it.
     

    Badass J Elkann

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    I'm not saying it's right. It's just why people have hated Jews since the dawn of time.
    like i said it probably because of either because jews are perceived as the devil, especially to those who were religiously christian or catholic, bloody ironic that it would mean that jesus was not the son of god, but the son of satin. if not that it was because of the stereotypes envy for their intelligence and how well off they are, or its actually because they make the perfect scapegoat to everyone's problems like hitler who started off as some rejected artist and used the jews as an excuse to gain power.
     

    Seven

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    like i said it probably because of either because jews are perceived as the devil, especially to those who were religiously christian or catholic, bloody ironic that it would mean that jesus was not the son of god, but the son of satin. if not that it was because of the stereotypes envy for their intelligence and how well off they are, or its actually because they make the perfect scapegoat to everyone's problems like hitler who started off as some rejected artist and used the jews as an excuse to gain power.
    You seem to miss some historical background here. I don't know if you remember it, but millions of Germans actually supported Hitler. Millions of Germans hated the Jews. And they hated them long before Hitler's evil scheme of becoming one of the world's most horrid dictators.

    They hated them because Jews were.. well.. succesful. They were good at the select few jobs they were allowed to do. Germany obviously wasn't recovering too well from WWI and it was hard for a lof people to see Jews becoming rich. So they were not a true scapegoat in the beginning. People just disliked them.

    As for the part about Jesus. You quite obviously know shit about christianity. Jesus was the son of God. He was not created by his father, but by God. So his father was Jewish, but Jesus was not. Before you say you become Jewish if your mother is Jewish: she hardly had a part in the whole thing as well really. She did not contribute besides giving birth.

    Furthermore the whole point about Jesus is that he rejects the Jews. He tells us it's not the true faith and Jews are corrupting what ought to be a religion. Therefore he opposes the Jews. As you see, it is fairly obvious why christians don't like Jews. I mean, it would be insane to assume otherwise. Christians did kind of base their religion on opposing the Jews after all.
     

    Badass J Elkann

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    You seem to miss some historical background here. I don't know if you remember it, but millions of Germans actually supported Hitler. Millions of Germans hated the Jews. And they hated them long before Hitler's evil scheme of becoming one of the world's most horrid dictators.

    They hated them because Jews were.. well.. succesful. They were good at the select few jobs they were allowed to do. Germany obviously wasn't recovering too well from WWI and it was hard for a lof people to see Jews becoming rich. So they were not a true scapegoat in the beginning. People just disliked them.

    As for the part about Jesus. You quite obviously know shit about christianity. Jesus was the son of God. He was not created by his father, but by God. So his father was Jewish, but Jesus was not. Before you say you become Jewish if your mother is Jewish: she hardly had a part in the whole thing as well really. She did not contribute besides giving birth.

    Furthermore the whole point about Jesus is that he rejects the Jews. He tells us it's not the true faith and Jews are corrupting what ought to be a religion. Therefore he opposes the Jews. As you see, it is fairly obvious why christians don't like Jews. I mean, it would be insane to assume otherwise. Christians did kind of base their religion on opposing the Jews after all.

    thats what im saying, is that hitler used the jews as his scapegoat to gain popularity amongst and nationalist party, as hitler promised the germans about dealing with them, which ofcourse worked in his favour, and to the favour of the people.

    as i said b4, no1 actually knows for sure that jesus ever existed, could be one big fairy tale myth as an excuse to hate the jews. p.s without really offending anyone here i find it really hard to believe how the virgin mary could give birth to a baby that was God's son, i mean sorry it just makes no sense to me, and to resurrect after his own death? and to walk on water? sorry i just simply dont buy that.
     

    Seven

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    thats what im saying, is that hitler used the jews as his scapegoat to gain popularity amongst and nationalist party.

    as i said b4, no1 actually knows for sure that jesus ever existed, could be one big fairy tale myth as an excuse to hate the jews
    a) Germans hated Jews before Hitler told them to hate Jews.

    b) You really do know shit about christianity. Why would they even construct a fairy tale myth as an excuse to hate Jews? Do you even know who were in power around that time? That's right, the Romans. And do you think that Romans liked Jews? They didn't.

    So why on earth would anyone take the time to construct a myth to hate Jews? Furthermore, Romans burnt christians alive at one point and did try to erase them from the face of the earth.

    All of this teaches us two things:

    - Christianity did occur around the period Jesus could have lived.
    - There was no point in constructing an excuse to hate Jews. Authority was on your side if you did so anyway.
    - No chance in hell your organisation would be disliked by the Romans if the only point of it was hating Jews. Hell, they probably would have given you tax advantages.

    Conclusion: you know fuck about it all. You're incredibly biased. And don't think for a minute I'm christian or anything. I'm agnostic, but seriously, you're talking bullshit.

    PS: the whole thing about miracles is about believing. If you don't believe in them, you're not christian. It's not about whether they make any sense or not. If you think like that, you'd have to be agnostic like me. But no, you're a Jew. So yes, I am feeling a bit offended here. You actually think that anyone who believes in something can claim reason. I'm offended by that, because I'm a very rational person and will not have it that people say religions are reasonable.
     

    Badass J Elkann

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    a) Germans hated Jews before Hitler told them to hate Jews.

    b) You really do know shit about christianity. Why would they even construct a fairy tale myth as an excuse to hate Jews? Do you even know who were in power around that time? That's right, the Romans. And do you think that Romans liked Jews? They didn't.

    So why on earth would anyone take the time to construct a myth to hate Jews? Furthermore, Romans burnt christians alive at one point and did try to erase them from the face of the earth.

    All of this teaches us two things:

    - Christianity did occur around the period Jesus could have lived.
    - There was no point in constructing an excuse to hate Jews. Authority was on your side if you did so anyway.
    - No chance in hell your organisation would be disliked by the Romans if the only point of it was hating Jews. Hell, they probably would have given you tax advantages.

    Conclusion: you know fuck about it all.
    god i know germans hated the jews b4 hitler, what im bloody saying is that hitler took that 1 step further, took advantage of that hatred, integrated it into many of his policies in order for the popularity gain of the people. hitler would never of been where he was without the hatred is what im saying.

    p.s what makes you so 110% sure jesus even existed? you only know from what has been written in books, common what 1 hard piece of evidence PROVES jesus existed, and no mel gibson's passion of the christ film does not count and neither does the bible.
     

    Badass J Elkann

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    to hell im going to write a religious book of my own and preach it around and in about 100 years time it will be a major following, and everything i write in it will be made up crap for the world to believe.
     

    Seven

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    p.s what makes you so 110% sure jesus even existed? you only know from what has been written in books, common what 1 hard piece of evidence PROVES jesus existed, and no mel gibson's passion of the christ film does not count and neither does the bible.
    Where did I say Jesus existed? Hell, I don't even care about Jesus. What IS certain though, is that Christianity was not invented to annoy Jews. Which I gave a lot of arguments for above, which you simply ignored.

    I know it's tough to read, but please, if you don't read just don't respond.
     

    Badass J Elkann

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    Where did I say Jesus existed? Hell, I don't even care about Jesus. What IS certain though, is that Christianity was not invented to annoy Jews. Which I gave a lot of arguments for above, which you simply ignored.

    I know it's tough to read, but please, if you don't read just don't respond.
    if you didnt happen to know christianity was later accepted as the main religion throughout the roman empire, so who's to say the books wern't re written then to hate the jews?
     

    Seven

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    if you didnt happen to know christianity was later accepted as the main religion throughout the roman empire, so who's to say the books wern't re written then to hate the jews?
    Trust me lad, I know more about the Roman Empire than you do. And I don't mean I know a bit more, I know A LOT more. Hell, if there's anything I know something about, it's the fucking Roman Empire.

    So if you're going to be all cocky, what was the Sexto-Licinian law again? Or what exactly did Tiberius Gracchus do? Dear god, you don't know anything about christianity and I'm pretty damn sure you know nothing about the Roman Empire either.

    Let's run through the facts again. The "books" were written pretty much in the first century AC. The last great persecution of Christians happened in 303 AC by Diocletian. So something tells me the books weren't written when the Romans hated the Jews, but embraced the Christians. What you ask? Well, basic history.

    PS: I can't believe you actually turned cocky on me, minutes after you showed us all you didn't know the first thing about christianity.
     
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