The Captain's armband (20 Viewers)

Aug 1, 2003
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#42
I would absolutely love seeing Zambrotta wearing that captain's armband. I dont see why Buffon shouldnt, though. He is extremely determined in games (esp. the big games; it shows) and he has always commanded his defence. A deserved candidate.
 

delp_07

Junior Member
Jan 31, 2005
454
#43
I think the way they work it is who has the most cpas at the moment. SO if del piero was being subbed and pessotto was in and so was thuram. Pessotto would still get the armband. Its like the italian national team. LEts say Canna gets injured"knock on wood" and needs to be taken off than dp if on would get the armband.
 

Adrian

Senior Member
Jan 31, 2003
6,872
#46
so many captains and leaders in del piero, cannavaro, vieira, emerson, nedved, thuram...

i would give it to zambrotta or buffon.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,974
#47
++ [ originally posted by TonyMontana ] ++

In soccer... Its just for ****ing show!! what is so hard to undurstand about that.
Sure you could give some crappy player the armband and perhaps nothing would change, however if you give that armband to someone special he could help elevate your team and spur them on to greater heights. When your team is seemingly down and out the captain's job is to motivate the team vocally and lead by example....if you just have some average player as captain he will not give your side encouragment and the match will be forever lost. The captain can become the heart and soul of the team if you are down and think the match is already over. Again, this something you would only understand having actually played the sport.

The captaincy is overrated just because our captain gets subbed frequently? That's one of the biggest bullshit arguments I've ever heard. The captaincy is not overrated when you have a capable captain wearing the armband.

Yeah, the captaincy is so overrated. I wonder what Scirea would say about that. :rolleyes:
 

The Arif

Senior Member
Jan 31, 2004
12,564
#48
++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


Sure you could give some crappy player the armband and perhaps nothing would change, however if you give that armband to someone special he could help elevate your team and spur them on to greater heights. When your team is seemingly down and out the captain's job is to motivate the team vocally and lead by example....if you just have some average player as captain he will not give your side encouragment and the match will be forever lost. The captain can become the heart and soul of the team if you are down and think the match is already over. Again, this something you would only understand having actually played the sport.


The best example: Liverpool 3-3 Milan.
 

The Arif

Senior Member
Jan 31, 2004
12,564
#50
++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


You can think up thousands of examples. Stating the captaincy is overrated just shows lack of knowledge about the sport.


Captaincy is one of the most important things in football.
 

Shoryuken

Senior Member
Jan 7, 2005
1,418
#52
++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


Sure you could give some crappy player the armband and perhaps nothing would change, however if you give that armband to someone special he could help elevate your team and spur them on to greater heights. When your team is seemingly down and out the captain's job is to motivate the team vocally and lead by example....if you just have some average player as captain he will not give your side encouragment and the match will be forever lost. The captain can become the heart and soul of the team if you are down and think the match is already over. Again, this something you would only understand having actually played the sport.

The captaincy is overrated just because our captain gets subbed frequently? That's one of the biggest bullshit arguments I've ever heard. The captaincy is not overrated when you have a capable captain wearing the armband.

Yeah, the captaincy is so overrated. I wonder what Scirea would say about that. :rolleyes:

Hahahaha, my argument is weak?, Funny, since youre saying the same shit all over again. Whatsdamatter? Didnt think of anything fresh to say?

Sad that you can see or admit the brilliance of my argument.

Well at least try to answer the question then.

If the captain is so important why does he get subed in every game he plays? Not just juve, all over the world in every league.


I played soccer as a kid, thinking i didnt just because i have the shocking opinion that hurts all the neverwas-captains out there is just stupid.

It was a long time since i saw a man who actually rolled his eyes, are u a woman?
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,974
#53
The reason why I didn't answer the question is because it's one of those things that are too idiotic to answer.

Even if the captain is subbed every single match, he leads the club out on the pitch in the team line and leads by examples and actions. Del Piero is one of the classiest players to ever wear our shirt, and even though he might not be one of the most inspirational players ever he still shows our club how to behave as professionals. However, he certainly is not the best leader the football world has ever seen.

As I have said before if you have a capable captain the role suddenly becomes incredibly important. If you do not have a capable captain, there is no hope for inspiration coming from any of the players on the team. The captaincy is only for show when you DONT have a capable player wearing the armband and just give to some world star. However, when an inspirational player is wearing the armband, anything could be possible. Just look at Gerrard in Istanbul, look at Keane's performances for Manure over the years, look at Scirea in our troubled times in the 80's. You can go on and on with examples of how a capable captain can make a HUGE difference in football. Just for show? That's something a tourist would think.
 

- vOnAm -

Senior Member
Jul 22, 2004
3,779
#56
Captianless Juve = Inter

I think TonyMontana and Andy have a point they're just not speakin the same language.

TonyMontana is more saying that DP is no longer a good captain, instead of saying a captain is not significant.

While Andy is saying that a captain is very significant.

A team captain is very important, at most times the heart of the team, but DP IMO is no more capable of bieng our captain simple because he doesn't perform and lacks the extra confidance that players who perform have. He is still very proffesional, but I don't see him as bieng a team leader on the pitch anymore.

I think A Players performance on the pitch is very significant in making the captain role effective. Thus a player who continuosly underperforms will not make a good captain. A captain doesn't always have to be the best players, but they have to be consistant enough to be able to morally and mentaly push his teamates.
 

Zlatan

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2003
23,049
#57
IMO Thuram showed how a Captain is supposed to play against Chievo. He played with great confidence and authority, imposing his presence both on his teammates and on the opposition. IMO Thuram should be captain.


BTW, and I've said this before, if you want to see an example of a REAL captain, watch Sergej Barbarez play for the Bosnian NT. Because of his attitude towards the NT jersey, his performances and commitment he's looked upon as a footballing God here, and he can truly do no wrong.

Hell, he can walk up to me and ask for a blowjob and I'd do it :D




(no, not really, but you get my point ;) )
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
#58
++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++

BTW, and I've said this before, if you want to see an example of a REAL captain, watch Sergej Barbarez play for the Bosnian NT. Because of his attitude towards the NT jersey, his performances and commitment he's looked upon as a footballing God here, and he can truly do now rong.
I thought he is Hamburg's captain as well.but when I watched Hamburg-Hanover this week,I saw Van Buyten with the arm band.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,325
#60
++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
The reason why I didn't answer the question is because it's one of those things that are too idiotic to answer.

Even if the captain is subbed every single match, he leads the club out on the pitch in the team line and leads by examples and actions. Del Piero is one of the classiest players to ever wear our shirt, and even though he might not be one of the most inspirational players ever he still shows our club how to behave as professionals. However, he certainly is not the best leader the football world has ever seen.

As I have said before if you have a capable captain the role suddenly becomes incredibly important. If you do not have a capable captain, there is no hope for inspiration coming from any of the players on the team. The captaincy is only for show when you DONT have a capable player wearing the armband and just give to some world star. However, when an inspirational player is wearing the armband, anything could be possible. Just look at Gerrard in Istanbul, look at Keane's performances for Manure over the years, look at Scirea in our troubled times in the 80's. You can go on and on with examples of how a capable captain can make a HUGE difference in football. Just for show? That's something a tourist would think.
IMHO you don't need to be a natural born leader to be captain. A team certainly does need leaders, but they don't have to captain the team. Del Piero's the prime example of this. While he may not be a real leader, he represent Juventus on and off the pitch. Rather than being a leader, your captain should make clear what your team stands for.

This is exactly why Del Piero should leave. He isn't representative to this Juventus. This is about Ibrahimovic, Emerson and Mutu. Less class, more brutality. Give it to Ibra I say. That's by far more representative. And exactly how Capello wants Juve to be.
 

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