'The Broken City' (5 Viewers)

Zé Tahir

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Dec 10, 2004
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I don't think you Gs did anything wrong, Alen figured Fred on day one, pure bad luck for you Gs even though Alen had his reasons to investigate him. If Fred had been around when I claimed to be the D, he could have played the game you played the day after; claiming that he is the D, etc etc. Alen would have always had the blazing gun option to use if the Cs had believed him though, but you would have still known the real detective.

I hid my lawyer role from Alen so that I could use it for you Gs in case I was recruited. As the lawyer, I could have always been recruited, it was why Alen wanted me out of the game as soon as possible :disagree: Not sure if it would have worked out any differently, but I'd have tried to recruit a sure but low profile C in Cheese. Osman was always going to be investigated.

Whacking Klin was the right thing to do, he clearly said that it was him who Alen investigated on day 3, you simply had to whack him. Whacking Blondu was wrong IMO, I'd have killed Osman on day 1.
But there was no reason to believe him on day 1. Also the detective can not gunz blaze on someone he has already investigated.

Ideally it would had been good if you got recruited. I wanted to recruit someone who could help the team because I was being lynched and unlike you and alen I don't break the rule about zombies taking to players still in the game (it's true :p) so it had to be osman.

Oh I meant TWW, not Klin.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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But there was no reason to believe him on day 1. Also the detective can not gunz blaze on someone he has already investigated.
Fred could have ruined Hoori's story on day 1 and save his ass, but if I survived that day (you were all gonna concentrate on Hoori "the detective") I was gonna blaze Fred on day 2 and prove that I am the detective.
The game was gonna be much more interesting that way and not a sure C win as it ended up to be, but I was still gonna find the BG and the jailer and play the game similarly to how it developed.

Ideally it would had been good if you got recruited. I wanted to recruit someone who could help the team because I was being lynched and unlike you and alen I don't break the rule about zombies taking to players still in the game (it's true :p) so it had to be osman.
It was Jasp who fucked you up with the recruiting. Or more precisely, it was your bad luck. You had 50% chance to get Hoori, not Osman (you couldn't get me since I was the D), but Jasper gave you Osman. I believe that Jasper played it fair here. If he wanted to make the game interesting he wasn't gonna do a hat pick and he was going to give you Hoori.

P.S: As for zombies talking to players, I know that it's not allowed but in this case it was harmless. I was simply informing Hoori what I think and what I will do. I also talked to Osman after he died but he can confirm that I wanted that discussion to be a general one, without Osman giving me any clues about the game.
 

king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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But there was no reason to believe him on day 1. Also the detective can not gunz blaze on someone he has already investigated.

Ideally it would had been good if you got recruited. I wanted to recruit someone who could help the team because I was being lynched and unlike you and alen I don't break the rule about zombies taking to players still in the game (it's true :p) so it had to be osman.

Oh I meant TWW, not Klin.
Gs can still cooperate with their teammates I guess. It's not like you are given information about players' roles the moment you are lynched. In the games where I was a G, our team continued making plans until the end, even those who were dead also took part. I could be wrong but I don't think it's against the rules.

As for myself, I thought everyone was allowed to have final words after their death so I made a comment after you whacked me, that people had to follow Alen. Only then did Osman tell me that it was against the rules because I had influenced other Cs :p I didn't intend to, though.

And you were the first one who broke a rule here by publicizing the (silly :andy2:) message Alen had sent to you :stuckup:
 

Zé Tahir

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Dec 10, 2004
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Gs can still cooperate with their teammates I guess. It's not like you are given information about players' roles the moment you are lynched. In the games where I was a G, our team continued making plans until the end, even those who were dead also took part. I could be wrong but I don't think it's against the rules.

As for myself, I thought everyone was allowed to have final words after their death so I made a comment after you whacked me, that people had to follow Alen. Only then did Osman tell me that it was against the rules because I had influenced other Cs :p I didn't intend to, though.

And you were the first one who broke a rule here by publicizing the (silly :andy2:) message Alen had sent to you :stuckup:
I'm pretty sure you are not supposed to.

I didn't know it was against the rules bc that time sheik did it I don't think I was playing + I wasn't dead at the time so I thought it was fair game to post it. Ma bad nonetheless.

Yeah, the final words aren't meant for that sort of thing.
 

king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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I'm pretty sure you are not supposed to.

I didn't know it was against the rules bc that time sheik did it I don't think I was playing + I wasn't dead at the time so I thought it was fair game to post it. Ma bad nonetheless.

Yeah, the final words aren't meant for that sort of thing.
True, now I know, even though noone believed me :lol:
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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All i can say is this, Gedaffi has fucked me over all my life, even after he died he fucked me over in the mafia game. So fuck him very much.

Also, the worst case scenario for me was always if Hoori or Alen was the detective, especially if it was the former, as soon as i was given my role by Jasper, i wished that the detective wasn't going to be Hoori, because i knew that she'd investigate me on the first day, we played together as G's before and she knows my game. Turns out Alen was the detective, not sure why he investigated me, maybe because i was covering for his arse, i did that before with him and it worked(he was even pming me at the time :D) But i guess you can't trick that sly fucker twice. :D

Still, i'm a little suspicious at the way Alen got all the G's right. I don't want to throw any accusations around, but you have to admit Alen, no matter how good anyone is, getting 4G's in 5 days is a little suspicious. Also, i kinda suspect that you knew about Janna and ALC as well. I can't for the life of me think what or how you did it, but if you did something illegal just admit it, the game is over anyway :D

In one of the games where me and Hoori were gangsters, Hoori got a PM from the G's by mistake, and we hunted them down one after the other. We didn't tell anyone about it, did the same happen to you? :D
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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Nope Fred, nothing suspicious about my investigations. And how could there be anything suspicious? The only way to know that is to know your passwords or to trick Janna into telling me who are the Gs, but none of that happened :D

Actually, it was gonna be 4/4 and maybe even 5/5 (depending who I'd have chosen between Janna and Cheese) but Hoori simply had to ask me to investigate Klin.
You and Tahir were my most suspicious players with your defending of me. After you were confirmed G, Tahir simply had to be investigated. Osman was gonna be my #3 after he became a whole different player that day. Kate was my sure #4 after a post she made (she knows which one, the one where I told her that her post was very helpful. She literally told me that she's a G with that post because what she said was so true and so logical that she had to be a G to come to the conclusion she came with).

Why don't you people acknowledge my perceptive skills :stuckup:
 

Zé Tahir

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Dec 10, 2004
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Fred could have ruined Hoori's story on day 1 and save his ass, but if I survived that day (you were all gonna concentrate on Hoori "the detective") I was gonna blaze Fred on day 2 and prove that I am the detective.
The game was gonna be much more interesting that way and not a sure C win as it ended up to be, but I was still gonna find the BG and the jailer and play the game similarly to how it developed.


It was Jasp who fucked you up with the recruiting. Or more precisely, it was your bad luck. You had 50% chance to get Hoori, not Osman (you couldn't get me since I was the D), but Jasper gave you Osman. I believe that Jasper played it fair here. If he wanted to make the game interesting he wasn't gonna do a hat pick and he was going to give you Hoori.

P.S: As for zombies talking to players, I know that it's not allowed but in this case it was harmless. I was simply informing Hoori what I think and what I will do. I also talked to Osman after he died but he can confirm that I wanted that discussion to be a general one, without Osman giving me any clues about the game.
Didnt you investigate Fred on day 1? You wouldn't have been able to blaze him then. Those are the rules iirc andvif they're not then that's fucked up and a flaw in the game. Also the same day I got lynched iirc you had the most votes until you and hoori convinced everyone to vote for me so you could have been killed off...those first 2 days really screwed us up. Oh and btw at first we were totally confused when our deadline to tell Jasper our whack target was. Right before the game started sabet confused jasp into thinking it was before the lynching. for Kate, alc and I that was 11 am..I got up at 11 am lol.

Yeah, if Jasper hat picked osman then that was fair.
 

king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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All i can say is this, Gedaffi has fucked me over all my life, even after he died he fucked me over in the mafia game. So fuck him very much.

Also, the worst case scenario for me was always if Hoori or Alen was the detective, especially if it was the former, as soon as i was given my role by Jasper, i wished that the detective wasn't going to be Hoori, because i knew that she'd investigate me on the first day, we played together as G's before and she knows my game. Turns out Alen was the detective, not sure why he investigated me, maybe because i was covering for his arse, i did that before with him and it worked(he was even pming me at the time :D) But i guess you can't trick that sly fucker twice. :D

Still, i'm a little suspicious at the way Alen got all the G's right. I don't want to throw any accusations around, but you have to admit Alen, no matter how good anyone is, getting 4G's in 5 days is a little suspicious. Also, i kinda suspect that you knew about Janna and ALC as well. I can't for the life of me think what or how you did it, but if you did something illegal just admit it, the game is over anyway :D

In one of the games where me and Hoori were gangsters, Hoori got a PM from the G's by mistake, and we hunted them down one after the other. We didn't tell anyone about it, did the same happen to you? :D
I was certainly going to investigate you on day one :lol: Even in the game we got the Gs one by one (through that mistake), I still doubted you until the last moment of the game, feeling was mutual though :p
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
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The Kate part I'm talking about is this....


I investigate Klin, he's a civilian. With Hoori we decide to go after a possible G and vote him out. We go after Melo.
Everyone trusts Hoori and votes Melo.

Then Kate comes up with this during the voting, before we knew that Melo is a C:
"Maybe Hoori investigated someone who turned out to be a civilian and she decided to make a blind guess with Melo"

That was soooo true, but how can a normal civilian come with such a conclusion? Only somebody who knows that Melo is a C can come to that conclusion. And only a G could know that Melo is a C.

After that I knew that we're making a mistake with Melo, but I also knew that Kate is a G.
 

king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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Nope Fred, nothing suspicious about my investigations. And how could there be anything suspicious? The only way to know that is to know your passwords or to trick Janna into telling me who are the Gs, but none of that happened :D

Actually, it was gonna be 4/4 and maybe even 5/5 (depending who I'd have chosen between Janna and Cheese) but Hoori simply had to ask me to investigate Klin.
You and Tahir were my most suspicious players with your defending of me. After you were confirmed G, Tahir simply had to be investigated. Osman was gonna be my #3 after he became a whole different player that day. Kate was my sure #4 after a post she made (she knows which one, the one where I told her that her post was very helpful. She literally told me that she's a G with that post because what she said was so true and so logical that she had to be a G to come to the conclusion she came with).

Why don't you people acknowledge my perceptive skills :stuckup:
I do. You won the game for the Cs singlehandedly :agree:
 

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