'The Broken City' (1 Viewer)

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[Osman]

Tell us what you think.

Wait, so you think its more likely that, Fred, is busy rejoicing for the mad Muamars death, and decided oh hey, I cant play this game right now, I will pm hoori what my role is, so she can pretend to be the detective? The part of you saying he told her his role, implies she is a civilian, who somehow decided to play the D, which is highly stupid and dangerous for a C to do, even if she gets a G who confessed to her lynched. Now you think THIS is more likely then her being the detective, fearing she is as usual one of the most likely civilians to get lynched, and making her identity and finding public before it might be too late.

I mean FFS, atleast Deneb, who's notion I find weak/unrealistic too, atleast bothered to say she is a G who sacrificed one her own, but you? You come with Fred just randomly told her his role, and she decided to do this, both ludicrously unlikely scenarios. Why are you refusing to acknowledge the obvious and likely scenario of she is the D who got a G?

 

[Osman]

It's possible.

How? Explain, I mean explain how its likely, not just possible. Explain what would make it so possible.

 

[Osman]

No, Hoori should tell the jailer who to jail. The jailer MUST NOT act on his own without asking Hoori who to jail. The jailed person will be protected and Hoori will know who needs to be protected tomorrow.

That works too, but I mainly just to get the jailer to prove himself to her, wether he/she tells her who to jail or vice versa isnt the most vital bit, when its to get a trusted confidant.

 

[Klin]

Wait, so you think its more likely that, Fred, is busy rejoicing for the mad Muamars death, and decided oh hey, I cant play this game right now, I will pm hoori what my role is, so she can pretend to be the detective? The part of you saying he told her his role, implies she is a civilian, who somehow decided to play the D, which is highly stupid and dangerous for a C to do, even if she gets a G who confessed to her lynched. Now you think THIS is more likely then her being the detective, fearing she is as usual one of the most likely civilians to get lynched, and making her identity and finding public before it might be too late.

I mean FFS, atleast Deneb, who's notion I find weak/unrealistic too, atleast bothered to say she is a G who sacrificed one her own, but you? You come with Fred just randomly told her his role, and she decided to do this, both ludicrously unlikely scenarios. Why are you refusing to acknowledge the obvious and likely scenario of she is the D who got a G?

I'm just thinking about all the possibilities. Don't over react for a simple statement.

 

[Alen]

Hoori should be free now! Damn it Jasper.

If you keep her in jail until 7 pm, when will the jailer put someone else in jail?

 

[Osman]

The BG should NOT reveal his role to Hoori. That's not even debatable. He should work from the dark, at least until his position is safe.

If the BG is about to be whacked, then Hoori won't help him at all. Hoori will say everything publicly from now on, so no need to talk with the BG via PM.

Haha, sounds like you dont want Hoori to know the BG, so you can semi-allude to being BG in the thread like you have been, and not get suspected for it. Hoori is 100% the detective, and the BG should contact her and work with her. ONLY her. I understand why you dont want the most important civilians working together

 

[Alen]

That works too, but I mainly just to get the jailer to prove himself to her, wether he/she tells her who to jail or vice versa isnt the most vital bit, when its to get a trusted confidant.

The jailer might be recruited later and then fuck up things from the inside. The jailer is not an important role so he should simply follow what a special role tells him to do, without acting on his own.

 

[Osman]

And oh Alen, you ignored it last time I quoted this like 10 pages back, but even if Fred made some posts to appear normal and like he is trying to rationalize who's who and what might be possible, I find this might be slightly telling in a way, what do you think?

Everyone is agreeing on lynching Alen, that is just too suspicious. The people who started it probably are C's, but the ones who ride the wave are probably G's trying to take advantage of the situation. Alen might be a G, but for now i'll go for someone else.

 

[Alen]

Haha, sounds like you dont want Hoori to know the BG, so you can semi-allude to being BG in the thread like you have been, and not get suspected for it. Hoori is 100% the detective, and the BG should contact her and work with her. ONLY her. I understand why you dont want the most important civilians working together

Tell me the point of them knowing each other? If it stays between them two, then fine, but if a third person finds out then that person can be recruited.

And seriously, what is the point of them working together? What can they do in secret that can't be done publicly?

 

[Osman]

The jailer might be recruited later and then fuck up things from the inside. The jailer is not an important role so he should simply follow what a special role tells him to do, without acting on his own.

Jailer gets recruited and tells Gs what everyone knows, that Hoori is G? Because I dont mean she should tell him/her about the BGs identity, just work with the jailer when he/she proves their status to Hoori.

 

[Alen]

And oh Alen, you ignored it last time I quoted this like 10 pages back, but even if Fred made some posts to appear normal and like he is trying to rationalize who's who and what might be possible, I find this might be slightly telling in a way, what do you thin?

Yup, it's telling a lot. It got poor Fred killed. He revealed his role again, like he did when he was the detective. But very few (only 2 people) noticed that he revealed his role as a G.

 

[Osman]

Tell me the point of them knowing each other? If it stays between them two, then fine, but if a third person finds out then that person can be recruited.

And seriously, what is the point of them working together? What can they do in secret that can't be done publicly?

Stays between them two, until they find someone else they for some reason really trust, or simply until the recruiter dies amongst the Gs, then dont need to fire an ally being turned against them. But defenitely at the very least should contact eachother and work together. I fnd it irrational/suspicious you seem to be against BG and D having basic communication line between them, and work down the list of suspects a bit in pms and make some plans. Because thats not something they can share here (not all of it atleast)...

 

[Osman]

Yup, it's telling a lot. It got poor Fred killed. He revealed his role again, like he did when he was the detective. But very few (only 2 people) noticed that he revealed his role as a G.

I agree, but why did he steer attention away from you of all people?

 

[Alen]

Jailer gets recruited and tells Gs what everyone knows, that Hoori is G? Because I dont mean she should tell him/her about the BGs identity, just work with the jailer when he/she proves their status to Hoori.

If the jailer is recruited and acts as a C, then he won't be targeted by the sure Cs and in the decisive moments he can do incredible damage by putting in jail a G, putting the special roles in risk of being whacked.
It's better if the jailer stays quiet and simply follows what Hoori asks him to do.

 

[Fred]

Fuck you all. You had to kill me at the same day as Gedaffi huh? Bastards.

 

[Alen]

I agree, but why did he steer attention away from you of all people?

Because he's an amateur. If he didn't try to steer attention away from me he would have been alive now.

 

[Alen]

Stays between them two, until they find someone else they for some reason really trust, or simply until the recruiter dies amongst the Gs, then dont need to fire an ally being turned against them. But defenitely at the very least should contact eachother and work together. I fnd it irrational/suspicious you seem to be against BG and D having basic communication line between them, and work down the list of suspects a bit in pms and make some plans. Because thats not something they can share here (not all of it atleast)...

What if the BG is Janna? How long will she keep it a secret?

 

[Osman]

What if the BG is Janna? How long will she keep it a secret?

As I said, I dont get how you as a C, would argue against this, pretty odd IMO. If some inexperienced player has such an important role, its a risk either way, but better odds for Cs and that player, if they contact a ASSURED civilian like the detective is in this case, and when its an experienced player like Hoori, and gets help from her. I dont see any negatives, only positives, I'm not sure why you fail to see that.


And you didnt exactly answer my Fred bit, dont think he is an amateaur, but him being one or not doesnt answer why he was covering for you of all people. Yes a G can back up a C randomly just to fit in, but the timing of it, and how it seemed convenient, can be more to it. Add that to how suspicious as heck you have been in general, it looks quite fishy.

 

[Alen]

As I said, I dont get how you as a C, would argue against this, pretty odd IMO. If some inexperienced player has such an important role, its a risk either way, but better odds for Cs and that player, if they contact a ASSURED civilian like the detective is in this case, and when its an experienced player like Hoori, and gets help from her. I dont see any negatives, only positives, I'm not sure why you fail to see that.


And you didnt exactly answer my Fred bit, dont think he is an amateaur, but him being one or not doesnt answer why he was covering for you of all people. Yes a G can back up a C randomly just to fit in, but the timing of it, and how it seemed convenient, can be more to it. Add that to how suspicious as heck you have been in general, it looks quite fishy.

The BG should not reveal his role to Hoori and if Jasper finally allows her to post, she will probably tell you the same thing.

As for Fred, I can't explain it to you right now. I know that if I was a G I'd have told him and the others not to defend the experienced players that early in the game, with like 10 hours left for voting and especially since the players who voted for me were Melo, Cheese and Janna. Hoori would have caught them right away, like she did today and like I did today.