The best Italian coach (15 Viewers)

[DAiDEViL]

Spalletti, Montella and fuck Prandelli.

D. Alves---Bonucci----Chiello---A. Sandro
-------Khedira--Marchisio--Pjanic
-----------------Montolivo
----------Dybala--------Higuain

@Mark

 

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[zizinho]

D. Alves---Bonucci----Chiello---A. Sandro
-------Khedira--Marchisio--Pjanic
-----------------Montolivo
----------Dybala--------Higuain

@Mark

replace Dybala with Juvetic and its perfect

 

[Gigiventus]

lol yeah, now i remember that he coached Valencia, completely forgot about it. didnt really pay attention to the details about him during his Italy stint. the things i remember him for is the very good Euro, a decent Confederations Cup and a mediocre WC. but according to what you say. he was a disaster. completely different from the image i had of him from his Fiorentina days

He was excellent with Fiore and great for Italy going into the Euro. It was after that final that he lost it and it all fell apart going into the world cup. Mediocre doesn't even begin to describe it.

This was the run-in to the WC

2-2 draw with denmark
2-2 draw with armenia
1-1 draw with germany
2-2 draw with nigeria
1-0 loss with spain
0-0 draw with ireland
1-1 draw with luxembourg

They even booked shit friendlies before the tournament and we failed to win any. He had no plan whatsoever going to Brazil. Every game he would change all the personnel.

Who can forget that Costa Rica game where we lost. Hot ass weather in the jungle against a physical team with stamina to spare? lets start Pirlo-Motta-De Rossi!! he literally picked the 3 slowest midfielders we had, obviously it didn't work.

Then we went down to ten men against Uruguay in the last game, who does Prandelli bring on as the sole striker? Cassano! fat and finished. He couldn't even run and he was supposed to be chasing balls up the field.

I've never such a sharp decline for a coach, so many absurd decisions.

Its the reason why its been 3 years and he hasn't gotten a decent job in Italy.

 

[DAiDEViL]

The worst thing he ever did was going back to 4312 in the final against Spain.

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To be fair - Italy usually gives a fuck about friendlies.

 

[zizinho]

Everything went downhill for him from that final onwards

 

[Mark]

D. Alves---Bonucci----Chiello---A. Sandro
-------Khedira--Marchisio--Pjanic
-----------------Montolivo
----------Dybala--------Higuain

@Mark

 

[Cerval]

not rating him as a coach or personal preference? (i havent followed him at all since leaving Azzurri bench but he did well at Fiorentina and had an Euro final with the NT)

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did Conte have a good Euro though? QF is not good enough for Italy, a nation that always has the goal to win

Looks like your agenda is showing there. With the players he had it's an achievement they made the QF (maybe even the group stage, but let's not go there). Italy had Eder, Pelle and the likes, they still succeeded in beating Spain, Belgium and lost due to PKs against Germany. Had they won they would have had a clear shot at winning the whole thing. The performances they put out considering the quality were very good. The drive they had was future champions caliber.

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It's not as if they choked in that tournament the way your statement makes it look like. Far from it

 

[zizinho]

Looks like your agenda is showing there. With the players he had it's an achievement they made the QF (maybe even the group stage, but let's not go there). Italy had Eder, Pelle and the likes, they still succeeded in beating Spain and lost due to PKs against Germany. Had they won they would have had a clear shot at winning the whole thing. The performances they put out considering the quality were very good. The drive they had was future champions caliber.

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It's not as if they choked in that tournament the way your statement makes it look like. Far from it

Eder, Pelle lol. lets not pretend like he didnt have El Sharaawy, Insigne, Bernardeschi, Immobile. the team featured Buffon, BBC, De Rossi, Motta, Florenzi, Candreva, Darmian, De Sciglio, as well as the ones mentioned above. lets not even go into the players that he didnt call up, who were having great seasons and were better than some of the ones he called, not to mention sticking with the 352 at any cost. even so, how many teams in the tournament do you rate above Italy?

 

[Bianconero81]

How am I delusional? By stating that Arnie is cooler than Stallone? Which like 75% of the world's population think so?

 

[Juvellino]

Prandelli never leaves on good terms and always burns bridges. He is pretty much black balled in Italy. He did solid with Viola and solid with the national team. But he crashed hard with the national team and has failed ever since.

 

[Marc]

You like and rate polls so much, don't you? then look at the poll above and

Honestly, I think most people are butthurt Conte left us. Therefore, they are biased.

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Allegri coached scudetto contenders for 4 seasons, winning 3 times (would have been 4 if not for a big injury crisis in 2012). Conte coached scudetto contenders for 3 seasons, won 3 times. Both are likely to win again this season. The difference is, Allegri had more success in Europe, even when he had a much inferior team (if ref didnt give non existent PKs in 2012, and Balo wasnt Cup tied in 2013, they would have kicked out fagca two years in a row, the 2nd time with an abysmal team). Conte has yet to prove himself internationally, while Allegri has already done so

The point is, Allegri had better teams than Conte. Conte won us Scudetti with non-world class players like Pepe, Matri, Vučinić, Quagliarella, Giovinco, Peluso, Padoin, Giaccherini, Krasić, Ogbonna, De Ceglie, Borriello, Caceres and so on...

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Man, I wanted Rocky to kill that son of a bitch!

 

[Raz]

Honestly, I think most people are butthurt Conte left us. Therefore, they are biased.

So basically you have your view and nothing will be true otherwise

 

[zizinho]

Honestly, I think most people are butthurt Conte left us. Therefore, they are biased.

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The point is, Allegri had better teams than Conte. Conte won us Scudetti with non-world class players like Pepe, Matri, Vučinić, Quagliarella, Giovinco, Peluso, Padoin, Giaccherini, Krasić, Ogbonna, De Ceglie, Borriello, Caceres and so on...

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Man, I wanted Rocky to kill that son of a bitch!

and Allegri won with non world class players like Abbiati, Antonelli, Abate, Mexes, Yepes, Bonera, Emanuelson, Nocerino, Flamini, Boateng, Robinho, Cassano and so on. your point is invalid

 

[Marc]

and Allegri won with non world class players like Abbiati, Antonelli, Abate, Mexes, Yepes, Bonera, Emanuelson, Nocerino, Flamini, Boateng, Robinho, Cassano and so on. your point is invalid

No, it's not invalid. Only in his 1st season he won the Scudetto with AC Milan. When he lost Thiago Siilva and Zlatan, things fell apart and he got fired. Like I said, Allegri had and has a better team/s. And Allegri hasn't proven himself on international level. When he wins something other than Serie A or Coppa Italia, then YOU will have a point. So far, you got NOTHING.

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So basically you have your view and nothing will be true otherwise

I just don't accept bullsh!t. Nobody so far came with a good explanation why is Allegri a better coach than Conte. Put a sock in it until then.

 

[zizinho]

No, it's not invalid. Like I said, Allegri had and has a better team/s. And Allegri hasn't proven himself on international level. When he wins something other than Serie A or Coppa Italia, then YOU will have a point. So far, you got NOTHING.

lets see if i understand. a team consisting of Abbiati, T. Silva, Bonera, Abate, Antonini, Ambrosini, van Bommel, Emanuelson, Nocerino, Robinho, Ibra is better than a team consisting of Buffon, BBC, Licht, Asa, Pirlo, Pogba, Vidal, Tevez, Llorente (lets not even mention the bench options). is that what youre saying? also, how is someone doing consistently well in CL proving nothing? hes passed the group stage every season, was in QF with an injury plagued Milan squad (and still should have progressed if it wasnt for laughtable penalties), passed the group with the worst Milan squad ever, AND managed to get a win vs fagca, the following season. took us to a CL final in his 1st year with 90% of the team Conte coached the previous year to a group stage exit, and then went out in Ro.16 against a very strong Bayern team. so far, he has proven MUCH more than Conte, so saying i have nothing is pretty stupid

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I just don't accept bullsh!t. Nobody so far came with a good explanation why is Allegri a better coach than Conte. Put a sock in it until then.

a lot of people have, youre just too blind to see it

 

[Raz]

I just don't accept bullsh!t. Nobody so far came with a good explanation why is Allegri a better coach than Conte. Put a sock in it until then.

Awesome answer Don't accept bullshit, you think conte is best then he is!

 

[DAiDEViL]

So basically you have your view and nothing will be true otherwise

 

[BayernFan]

Badstuber wasnt 1st choice for a while, atleast since 2012 (maybe even before, cant remember). Also, what exactly is your point? Licht played a lot, because Dani was injured, and he isnt a prefered choice as a starter. So what is it that you want to prove here?

I know its a little off topic to the thread, but im not sure Boateng will be a clear starter really. Martinez and Hummels has been rocksolid at the back and compensate each other really well. Offcourse Boatengs qualities can´t be denied, but for now I hope Carlo will just keep Martinez and Hummels together, they are great.

For the best Italian coach, thats a hard one. For now it would be Ancelotti, but IMO Allegri aint far behind him. Allegri is a super coach, and also a more underrated one compared to others. As an example Pep gets a lot of credit because he did good in Barca, but the past 2-3 years I think Allegri has surpassed him or its very close. Pep is a good coach, but also overrated.

Conte would also be in the top3 for best Italian coaches without a doubt. What he did with Chelsea just after he arrived is admirable - and at the same time Pep struggle in City

 

[lgorTudor]

I know its a little off topic to the thread, but im not sure Boateng will be a clear starter really. Martinez and Hummels has been rocksolid at the back and compensate each other really well. Offcourse Boatengs qualities can´t be denied, but for now I hope Carlo will just keep Martinez and Hummels together, they are great.

3-5-2

 

[DAiDEViL]

Hummels and Martinez are both slow as fuck.

Hummels - (fit) Boateng is the better combination.