"The Arabic Juve Thread... Reloaded!!" (11 Viewers)

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Asma

Doctor Asma
Oct 21, 2003
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    That's right, you rest your case because you can't answer for it. And I am living somewhere else, so we're far beyond that. ;)

    Edit: No disrespect intended of course Asma. Like I said, I have great respect for the ruler of Dubai but it is a young city after all. Perhaps that's why I am annoyed with it.
    No worries. This is your opinion and i respect it.
     

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    Omair

    Herticity
    Sep 27, 2006
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    First I'd like to congratulate my Emarati brothers and sisters on their achievement. Something to be proud of indeed. and about the money? it's their money and their entitled to do whatever they do with it as long as it's within "7agg allah" since they're Muslims.

    And about all the give it to the poor thing? Look, Saudi Arabia and UAE have NEVER ever not donated when needed. Even some months, here in Saudi at least, the money spent abroad is more than the money spent inside and I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case in the UAE.

    Again, you didn't get the point. You seem to be adding random comments in every post you write. I am not talking about your backyard...:sergio: We are talking about the UAE government, stay on topic.

    Yes, I am obsessed with Art, Khalid. And since you are speaking with such an open mind, then I will too and we will end this conversation once and for all. Art is something the Khaleejis will never understand save for a few until they open education institutes for it like they have around the world. Have a good day, sir.
    Art? for all I know in Jeddah it's more appreciated than anywhere else in Saudi and I'm happy for the progress that's happening there. I attended at least 5 photogallaries and 2 paintings galaries. Music? I know personally in my close circle of friends two guitarists in two different bands (though some might not consider rock as music) and 3-4 pianists and a violinist. Just wait for the government to unban concerts and you'll see what's gonna happen there. If a concerto not assembled within 3-5 years call me an idiot.

    Imagine for a moment if Saudi Arabia was as open minded as the States. Would you say that more people would be envious of Saudi Arabia now ? Especially the other Arab countries ?
    see, any Saudi who'd read my previous part of the post would call me crazy!!

    Open-mindset in Saudi? dude hell would freeze over first!! I can't even imagine it!!!!! sad to say though :(

    Really, what do people envy "Arab Khaleeji's" for?

    Superior education, superior health care systems, superior universities, superior infrastructure, etc?

    Ya, exactly, the things that really matter we don't really have them. But we do have high buildings, big fountains and a couple of man made islands.


    I think we should be more realistic about ourselves, the only difference between gulf countries and other third world countries, is that somebody dug a hole here and found a liquid they call oil.

    Also, the fact that you're better off than other Arab countries is not really much of an achievment is it? Its not like the other Arabs are any good. As sad as i am to admit this.
    I guess only few picked cities in the gulf!! Dubai, AbuDhabi and Riyadh to start with. You've seen what happened in Jeddah two months ago :cry: :cry: .. And the only three cities in Saudi that are better off are (Riyadh, Dhahran-Dammam-Khobar multicity and Madina) Allahomma 9alli o sallim 3ala 9a7ibha.

    I know Khalid, that adds insult to injury.. Sad but true :(

    First of all, I'm talking about how Khaleejis are envied by other countries in the Middle-East not the West.

    As I replied to Fred, I'm not talking about all Arabs. I'm talking about Khaleejis, they are the ones who are envied by others for their money. Yes, Khaleeji governments, just like all other arab countries, are corrupted of course. However, Khaleejis live much better than most other Arab nations and for that, they're hated and stereotyped. It's so obvious. I'm not saying Khaleejis are angels and faultless, but envy, my friend, is a disgusting sin.


    But, again, I hate generalization. Not all arabs. I have a lot of arab friends from Lebanon, Jordan/Palestine, Egypt and Libya.
    With all due respect, but with the actions we see from our compatriots I shall say we wrought such envy on ourselves. I hate it .. I absolutely do but it doesn't take more than a walk in Knightsbridge in August to know what I'm talking about..

    The shame the brought to us!!

    Nevertheless though, I will try to fight these stereotypes whenever I can and I will be proud of my nation and religion all the time.

    بلادي و إن جارت علي عزيزة.. و أهلي و إن ضنوا علي كرام

    and that's the bottom line!

    I'm not really proud of everything that happens in Saudi or other Gulf countries, but I being judged by my nationality so often is what makes me conclude that those people are just envious.
    They're envious indeed and I don't contradict myself here. We're both at fault here. I hate it when someone shows up and tells come on you're Saudi you have all the money you want. Hey, all my family, friends and everyone in my social circle work hard for that money and nothing comes as a perk!! and Hell, there a lot of people who live under harsh conditions we can never imagine in an oil-rich country!!

    who's at fault? not me nor you indeed .. but let's just keep it at that!!

    Arabs uniting into one nation...that's when I would be envious. Nothing more, nothing less.
    If that happens.. I think, then and only then, people have the right to envy us!

    Just reading their constitutions makes me think of the Soviet Union, something which I do not agree with.

    They seem like good guys, too bad no one took the movement seriously.
    Baath party? good guys? would like to explain.. I fail to see how would they any good for us!
     

    Fred

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    Oct 2, 2003
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    They are good guys, The current Syrian regime is not Baathist in any sense of the word, they just claim they are Baathists.

    Read up on Michel Aflaq, Salah Bitar and Zaki al-Arsuzi to understand what the real Baath movement is about.

    I don't agree with them at all btw. I just think their ideology has been painted in a negative way by the likes of Saddam and Bashar El-Assad.
     

    Eddy

    The Maestro
    Aug 20, 2005
    12,645
    Art? for all I know in Jeddah it's more appreciated than anywhere else in Saudi and I'm happy for the progress that's happening there. I attended at least 5 photogallaries and 2 paintings galaries. Music? I know personally in my close circle of friends two guitarists in two different bands (though some might not consider rock as music) and 3-4 pianists and a violinist. Just wait for the government to unban concerts and you'll see what's gonna happen there. If a concerto not assembled within 3-5 years call me an idiot.
    That's what I would like to hear.

    see, any Saudi who'd read my previous part of the post would call me crazy!!

    Open-mindset in Saudi? dude hell would freeze over first!! I can't even imagine it!!!!! sad to say though :(
    Unfortunately.

    If that happens.. I think, then and only then, people have the right to envy us!
    Word.

    Baath party? good guys? would like to explain.. I fail to see how would they any good for us!
    Hey man, I just barely knew about these guys since yesterday :D
     

    Omair

    Herticity
    Sep 27, 2006
    3,254
    They are good guys, The current Syrian regime is not Baathist in any sense of the word, they just claim they are Baathists.

    Read up on Michel Aflaq, Salah Bitar and Zaki al-Arsuzi to understand what the real Baath movement is about.

    I don't agree with them at all btw. I just think their ideology has been painted in a negative way by the likes of Saddam and Bashar El-Assad.
    Lately, I coincidentally been reading about most Arab leaders at that era and read those names one time to many but never actually researched them :p

    but yeah I will do now :D
     

    K.O.

    Senior Member
    Nov 24, 2005
    13,883
    First I'd like to congratulate my Emarati brothers and sisters on their achievement. Something to be proud of indeed. and about the money? it's their money and their entitled to do whatever they do with it as long as it's within "7agg allah" since they're Muslims.

    And about all the give it to the poor thing? Look, Saudi Arabia and UAE have NEVER ever not donated when needed. Even some months, here in Saudi at least, the money spent abroad is more than the money spent inside and I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case in the UAE.
    I can't agree more.

    I guess only few picked cities in the gulf!! Dubai, AbuDhabi and Riyadh to start with. You've seen what happened in Jeddah two months ago :cry: :cry: .. And the only three cities in Saudi that are better off are (Riyadh, Dhahran-Dammam-Khobar multicity and Madina) Allahomma 9alli o sallim 3ala 9a7ibha.

    I know Khalid, that adds insult to injury.. Sad but true :(
    It was really sad what happened in Jeddah. I'm from Khobar, it isn't much better here! We know how all the money the country gets from oil goes straight to the capital :sergio:

    With all due respect, but with the actions we see from our compatriots I shall say we wrought such envy on ourselves. I hate it .. I absolutely do but it doesn't take more than a walk in Knightsbridge in August to know what I'm talking about..

    The shame the brought to us!!

    Nevertheless though, I will try to fight these stereotypes whenever I can and I will be proud of my nation and religion all the time.

    بلادي و إن جارت علي عزيزة.. و أهلي و إن ضنوا علي كرام

    and that's the bottom line!

    They're envious indeed and I don't contradict myself here. We're both at fault here. I hate it when someone shows up and tells come on you're Saudi you have all the money you want. Hey, all my family, friends and everyone in my social circle work hard for that money and nothing comes as a perk!! and Hell, there a lot of people who live under harsh conditions we can never imagine in an oil-rich country!!

    who's at fault? not me nor you indeed .. but let's just keep it at that!!
    Yes. That's exactly what I wanted to point out. People must understand that Saudi Arabia is very versatile. It's a very large country with different mindsets. People must avoid generalization.

    Nice post, Omair. I agree on everything you wrote. :tup:
     

    ReBeL

    The Jackal
    Jan 14, 2005
    22,871
    It was really sad what happened in Jeddah. I'm from Khobar, it isn't much better here! We know how all the money the country gets from oil goes straight to the capital :sergio:



    Yes. That's exactly what I wanted to point out. People must understand that Saudi Arabia is very versatile. It's a very large country with different mindsets. People must avoid generalization.
    I have to agree with both paragraphs as I was in Riyadh before two months and saw the big difference between it and the other cities, and as I know many Saudi guys with very nice minds.
     

    Omair

    Herticity
    Sep 27, 2006
    3,254
    I can't agree more.



    It was really sad what happened in Jeddah. I'm from Khobar, it isn't much better here! We know how all the money the country gets from oil goes straight to the capital :sergio:



    Yes. That's exactly what I wanted to point out. People must understand that Saudi Arabia is very versatile. It's a very large country with different mindsets. People must avoid generalization.

    Nice post, Omair. I agree on everything you wrote. :tup:
    I've been studying in UPM for the past 4.5 years so I pretty know Dhahran-Khobar inside out (not much Dammam for me though) .. and honestly, even suwaiket and thogba are more organized and less crowded than jeddah!!
     

    K.O.

    Senior Member
    Nov 24, 2005
    13,883
    I've been studying in UPM for the past 4.5 years so I pretty know Dhahran-Khobar inside out (not much Dammam for me though) .. and honestly, even suwaiket and thogba are more organized and less crowded than jeddah!!
    :shocked:

    Thogba! That is the most disorganized place I've ever seen, monkeys would do a better job planning such a thing!

    I've always wanted to ask a UPM student this: what's up with all the "Kafoor" stories students keep talking about? Is it for real or just BS? :D
     

    Omair

    Herticity
    Sep 27, 2006
    3,254
    :shocked:

    Thogba! That is the most disorganized place I've ever seen, monkeys would do a better job planning such a thing!

    I've always wanted to ask a UPM student this: what's up with all the "Kafoor" stories students keep talking about? Is it for real or just BS? :D
    Trust me, Thogba is way more organized than southern Jeddah! Been in both!

    and Kafoor? LOOOL .. that's something they've been telling me and it's smell can be recognized 100m away from the restaurant ..

    thankfully I never set a foot at that horrid place :p
     

    K.O.

    Senior Member
    Nov 24, 2005
    13,883
    Just wondering. Why do most people say things like that when they hear the name of Thogba?
    Have you ever been to Thogba? It's really messy.

    Although the worst planned place in Khobar is that traffic light near Al-Rashid shopping mall! That's the weirdest street I've seen. You take a left and after a while you realize you're only going straight! Strange :D
     

    Mohad

    The Ocean Star
    May 20, 2009
    6,685
    Have you ever been to Thogba? It's really messy.
    I live in Al-3agrabiah, and I have a lot of friends who lives there. It's getting much better now.

    Although the worst planned place in Khobar is that traffic light near Al-Rashid shopping mall! That's the weirdest street I've seen. You take a left and after a while you realize you're only going straight! Strange :D
    :lol2:

    Tell me about it.
     

    Omair

    Herticity
    Sep 27, 2006
    3,254
    Have you ever been to Thogba? It's really messy.

    Although the worst planned place in Khobar is that traffic light near Al-Rashid shopping mall! That's the weirdest street I've seen. You take a left and after a while you realize you're only going straight! Strange :D
    IMO, Thogba is much more bearable than Suwaiket! but both suck anyway :p

    and that red light! lol .. I lived on the 16th street for 3 years at the very end of that you have to turn left TWICE to go left .. whenever I try to explain to someone who wants to come over it goes REAL bad .. go double left!! huh? i mean go left left not just left.. whaaaaaaat? man, there are two lefts.. go to the leftmost? wtf r u talking about? until they end up on regular left and i have to explain a different route!!

    this sucks man!!
     

    K.O.

    Senior Member
    Nov 24, 2005
    13,883
    Khalid !

    I liked your previous username .. shu seven plus one mub 7iluu :p
    Well, I had to change it. It had way too many spaces :D but, don't worry, I'll make you like this one, too :eyebrows:

    IMO, Thogba is much more bearable than Suwaiket! but both suck anyway :p

    and that red light! lol .. I lived on the 16th street for 3 years at the very end of that you have to turn left TWICE to go left .. whenever I try to explain to someone who wants to come over it goes REAL bad .. go double left!! huh? i mean go left left not just left.. whaaaaaaat? man, there are two lefts.. go to the leftmost? wtf r u talking about? until they end up on regular left and i have to explain a different route!!

    this sucks man!!
    :lol2:

    There are some strange streets in khobar, but, in general, it's an organized city compared to Dammam. I don't know if it's more organized than Jeddah to be honest, you know better.

    Suwaiket is a bit messy, too. But I always manage to get myself out of it easier than Thogba.
     

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