I like the lineup in your sig. the only problem i have with it is just that its too basic . I don't see a more suitable lineup right now with the players we have .
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you can't expect Nedved to keep running up and down his flank like when he was in his twenties for an entire season
too offensive that is just a misconception that is apparently very common on this forum
we inevitably dominate 90% of our games in serie A, if we play higher our flanks don't have to run all these distances, that is just the point, if let's say Nedved plays left midfield like he normally does he will have to get rid of his direct opponent and then the left back before he can give a center of pass to a teammate. In a 4-3-3 there is only the left back or cb to worry about. If their cb comes out then the center is wide open cuz our cf is still there to occupy our cf.
Defensively we have a man like Tiago who is excellent breaking down any counter attack and we can choose to let our defence stay around 10meters below the midfield line. Don't think of Barcelona or Ajax when I talk about a 4-3-3 as we have different kind of wingers but think of Chelsea who have an excellent defensive record or Lyon. Like I said Tiago already is used to this system and proved he is great at disrupting any possible attack. In attack we have plenty of choices , our midfielders can get the ball to at least three players in front of them as in the 4-4-2 we have two. three man upfront will also oreder their defence to stay back as no one in A will ever play man to man defence.
too offensive that is just a misconception that is apparently very common on this forum
we inevitably dominate 90% of our games in serie A, if we play higher our flanks don't have to run all these distances, that is just the point, if let's say Nedved plays left midfield like he normally does he will have to get rid of his direct opponent and then the left back before he can give a center of pass to a teammate. In a 4-3-3 there is only the left back or cb to worry about. If their cb comes out then the center is wide open cuz our cf is still there to occupy our cf.
Defensively we have a man like Tiago who is excellent breaking down any counter attack and we can choose to let our defence stay around 10meters below the midfield line. Don't think of Barcelona or Ajax when I talk about a 4-3-3 as we have different kind of wingers but think of Chelsea who have an excellent defensive record or Lyon. Like I said Tiago already is used to this system and proved he is great at disrupting any possible attack. In attack we have plenty of choices , our midfielders can get the ball to at least three players in front of them as in the 4-4-2 we have two. three man upfront will also oreder their defence to stay back as no one in A will ever play man to man defence.
Excellent post, I agree entirely. Furthermore, many people here say our midfield will be strained because of only having three in midfield, but that's not the case at all. What we lose on the flanks we gain in the center of the pitch, plus we have wingers in the top three to come back when needed. The 4-3-3 is in my opinion the formation that provides the optimal levels of attack and defense shared between the two, but apparently many here don't think it will work in Serie A. The facts state otherwise though. From Sacchi's Milan to Capello's and Spalletti's Roma, they have worked. The fact of the matter is, the way the 4-3-3 does work is if you have the right players, and I think we do.
The burden for the whole team to attack and the whole team to defend can be seen with almost any formation. Rinus Michels, the godfather of total football, used the 4-3-3 to perfection where the whole team attacked and the whole side defended. And in all actuality, the 4-3-3 allows more players to attack and defend considering the two players on the sides of the main striker can come back and help on the flank if needed. In the straight 4-4-2 the strikers always get caught up pitch, trotting back to midfield. In my opinion, the 4-4-2 is just too lethargic and predictable.
-----------------Buffon
----Grygera - Andrade - Criscito
------------ Nico --- Tiago
----Camo --- Almiron --- Neddy
---------------Trez -- DP
or:
-----------------Buffon
----Grygera - Andrade - Criscito
--Sali --------- Tiago--------Chellini
----------Almiron--- Neddy
---------------Trez -- DP
I see 352 is suitable as we are short of a defender and we have more than enough midfielders
----Grygera - Andrade - Criscito
------------ Nico --- Tiago
----Camo --- Almiron --- Neddy
---------------Trez -- DP
or:
-----------------Buffon
----Grygera - Andrade - Criscito
--Sali --------- Tiago--------Chellini
----------Almiron--- Neddy
---------------Trez -- DP
I see 352 is suitable as we are short of a defender and we have more than enough midfielders
----------------------Buffon---------------------------
Grygera--------CB--------Andrade--------Chiellini
----------------Zanettt/Nocerino---------------------
----Tiago/Almiron---------------Nedved------------
Camo---------------------------------------Del Piero
------------------------Trez---------------------------
Grygera--------CB--------Andrade--------Chiellini
----------------Zanettt/Nocerino---------------------
----Tiago/Almiron---------------Nedved------------
Camo---------------------------------------Del Piero
------------------------Trez---------------------------
it is just a bunch of crap to say that we don't have the players to go for a 4-3-3.
we dislike Inter but take a look at them for once they played with three man upfront against ManU while they hardly have a history at playing like that before. I'm not saying we should because Inter did it but do not tell me we can't
if we play 4-4-2 against Inter, they will overrun us mark my words
we dislike Inter but take a look at them for once they played with three man upfront against ManU while they hardly have a history at playing like that before. I'm not saying we should because Inter did it but do not tell me we can't
if we play 4-4-2 against Inter, they will overrun us mark my words
it has been seen last year. if you want to beat inter you have to attack all the way. they dont counter very well.
see roma- inter matches. roma always attack at the biginning and score one or two goals. but as soon as they hold back inter scores. roma didnt do that in the copa final. they attacked for the whole match and the result was that inter were crushed.
IMO we have a very strong attack (at least on paper). we should exploit that and score as much as possible.
with our formation now we must play as of we were real madrid of del bousqe.
attack is the best defense.
its simple. we have a strong attack and a very good midfield. lets use them instead of relying on the quistionable defence
see roma- inter matches. roma always attack at the biginning and score one or two goals. but as soon as they hold back inter scores. roma didnt do that in the copa final. they attacked for the whole match and the result was that inter were crushed.
IMO we have a very strong attack (at least on paper). we should exploit that and score as much as possible.
with our formation now we must play as of we were real madrid of del bousqe.
attack is the best defense.
its simple. we have a strong attack and a very good midfield. lets use them instead of relying on the quistionable defence
thanx white rabbit, at last I have found a member who isn't scared to take the game onto our opponents half. We do have a strong attack and for now a shaky defence, it would be very wrong to sit back and let our defenders be put under pressure. Nobody can score from their own half, as for counter football for that we have Tiago who is used to these tactics and is excellent in disrupting our opponents play. We are likely to controll 75% of our games, most of the time we are looking for a way to crack down their defence, you'll find that easier when you have 3 up front.
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