Tactics and Formations (18 Viewers)

[alexjuventino]

@Zacheryah

If we assume the rumors turn out to be true and we sign Higuain,Jojo,Diamanti.the rest will not effect the formation or the way we play(Lodi,Berardi,CB back up...)

How do you think we'll play?with the forwards being:Higuain,Llorente,Jojo,Diamanti,Mirko and/or Gio.

many reports lately suggests Conte would like to use 4-3-3 more and maybe even a 4-2-3-1..
But i can't see us droping one of the MVP so i don't think we'll see the 4-2-3-1 alot...if at all
I don't think we'll play only 2 forwards as in the 3-5-2,becuase then 3 of 5(Jojo,Higuain,Llorente,Diamanti,Mirko/Gio) will be benched.

Higuain & Llorente can't play together in a 3 man attack imo in the 4-3-3.so Llorente will hit the bench?this one makes sense actually.
Jojo-Higuain-Diamanti
(Mirko,Gio-Llorente-Pepe/Isla)

Or maybe the 4-3-3 that will be more of a 4-3-1-2 with Jojo/Diamanti playing behind strikers:

Higuain-Llorente
---Jojo--------

or

Higuain-Jojo
---Diamanti---




The problem with the back 4 is the LB:
-Bonucci neing benched,hard to believe.
-If Bonucci plays->Chiello is the LB ..

It makes the most sense but with a 4-3-1-2 we lack width and Conte seems to like width. I see us trying a 4-3-3 with Llorente as the cf and higuain on the rw or something. Conte has to have an idea what he wants to do. If we do get Higuain and a Jojo/Diamanti player we will most likely play with an ss or trequartista. Maybe we will play a 4-3-1-2 for real but the width is the probably at least i think

 

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[Roman]

It makes the most sense but with a 4-3-1-2 we lack width and Conte seems to like width. I see us trying a 4-3-3 with Llorente as the cf and higuain on the rw or something. Conte has to have an idea what he wants to do. If we do get Higuain and a Jojo/Diamanti player we will most likely play with an ss or trequartista. Maybe we will play a 4-3-1-2 for real but the width is the probably at least i think

He for sure has an idea,otherwise he would not request those players

We're just playing the guess game...

Buffon
Licht-Barza-Chiellini-Kolarov/Peluso/LB
Pirlo
Vidal--------Marchisio
Diamanti/Jojo
Higuain-Jojo/Llorente​

looks great.

 

[alexjuventino]

He for sure has an idea,otherwise he would not request those players

We're just playing the guess game...

Buffon
Licht-Barza-Chiellini-Kolarov/Peluso/LB
Pirlo
Vidal--------Marchisio
Diamanti/Jojo
Higuain-Jojo/Llorente​

looks great.

It does but if say marchisio and vidal go wide then it leaves the center exposed

 

[Roman]

It does but if say marchisio and vidal go wide then it leaves the center exposed

Unless Diamanti will go back as well and do defence and help Pirlo when needed...i think he can do that.where Jojo,i'm not sure...
a dimond formation 4-4-2

Pirlo
Vidal-Marchisio
Diamanti​

Diamanti
Higuain-Jojo

is better from defensive view over
Jojo
Higuain-Llorente
this one can used when we need the goal badly or something...

 

[Zacheryah]

@Zacheryah

If we assume the rumors turn out to be true and we sign Higuain,Jojo,Diamanti.the rest will not effect the formation or the way we play(Lodi,Berardi,CB back up...)

How do you think we'll play?with the forwards being:Higuain,Llorente,Jojo,Diamanti,Mirko and/or Gio.

many reports lately suggests Conte would like to use 4-3-3 more and maybe even a 4-2-3-1..
But i can't see us droping one of the MVP so i don't think we'll see the 4-2-3-1 alot...if at all
I don't think we'll play only 2 forwards as in the 3-5-2,becuase then 3 of 5(Jojo,Higuain,Llorente,Diamanti,Mirko/Gio) will be benched.

Higuain & Llorente can't play together in a 3 man attack imo in the 4-3-3.so Llorente will hit the bench?this one makes sense actually.
Jojo-Higuain-Diamanti
(Mirko,Gio-Llorente-Pepe/Isla)

Or maybe the 4-3-3 that will be more of a 4-3-1-2 with Jojo/Diamanti playing behind strikers:

Higuain-Llorente
---Jojo--------

or

Higuain-Jojo
---Diamanti---




The problem with the back 4 is the LB:
-Bonucci neing benched,hard to believe.
-If Bonucci plays->Chiello is the LB ..

Dont believe reports, they are all false.

Try to base on what we have now. We are getting mostly forwards.
Thing is, Llorente, Higuain, jovetic, mostly center based players. Sure jojo and Higuain can play the wing, but i see that more as an added value.

As it stands, the defence is where the key lies imo. We arent looking for leftback. Nothing said about the left flank. this leads me to believe that we'll continue with 3 centrrebacks and 2 wingbacks.

Most importantly, we were playing 3-6-1 at the end. An ideal formation for Diamanti. And a very good formation for hard away games.


As i see it, we continue 3-5-2. with Higuain/Llorente/jojo batteling for the 2 starter spots. Diamanti seems like a speciality player, we introduce to go 3-6-1.

 

[Roman]

Dont believe reports, they are all false.

Try to base on what we have now. We are getting mostly forwards.
Thing is, Llorente, Higuain, jovetic, mostly center based players. Sure jojo and Higuain can play the wing, but i see that more as an added value.

As it stands, the defence is where the key lies imo. We arent looking for leftback. Nothing said about the left flank. this leads me to believe that we'll continue with 3 centrrebacks and 2 wingbacks.

Most importantly, we were playing 3-6-1 at the end. An ideal formation for Diamanti. And a very good formation for hard away games.


As i see it, we continue 3-5-2. with Higuain/Llorente/jojo batteling for the 2 starter spots. Diamanti seems like a speciality player, we introduce to go 3-6-1.

3-6-1 is really....

 

[ForzaJuve12]

I think that next season we're going for a 4-3-3. What we can try to do is trade Lichtsteiner + cash for Higuain and Coentrao. By doing that, we just got ourselves a good Chiellini replacement along with Caceres and a world class LB. To replace Licht we should get Pisczeck. I mean Pisczeck is IMO better than Licht as much as I love him and we'll have both Isla and Pisczeck in RB. You may think it's unrealistic that we get Pisczeck but he's only about 20m. The only reason he wouldn't come is because Dortmund are kind of in a crisis with selling its stars...

Maybe this is how it will look like next season:

Buffon

Pisczeck Barzagli Chiellini Coentrao

Vidal Pirlo Marchisio

Gio Higuain Vucinic

I put Gio there because he's amazing when he plays on the wing and I have a feeling next season is his season. Higuain beats Llorente hands down in everything so he's in the center and Mirko is Mirko and we need him for those beautiful chips and passes. I think this formation is very possible next season and it can get us far in the CL. As for Asamoah, I really don't know where he'd fit Maybe if Coentrao moves to center he can play in LB but Conte already put him as a winger and now he'd move him bback. I don't know about him but I wouldn't be happy if that happened...

 

[Trequartista]

Gio and Vucinic would not work on the wings, neither tracks back.

If we plan to use the 4-3-3, we need to purchase a natural winger like Nani or Di Maria. Also, I doubt we will bench Llorente. The only player we currently have who can make the 4-3-3 work is Pepe but he's not good enough if we want to win the CL.

 

[adRHCP]

Gio and Vucinic would not work on the wings, neither tracks back.

If we plan to use the 4-3-3, we need to purchase a natural winger like Nani or Di Maria. Also, I doubt we will bench Llorente. The only player we currently have who can make the 4-3-3 work is Pepe but he's not good enough if we want to win the CL.

 

[Bianconero81]

I think that next season we're going for a 4-3-3. What we can try to do is trade Lichtsteiner + cash for Higuain and Coentrao. By doing that, we just got ourselves a good Chiellini replacement along with Caceres and a world class LB. To replace Licht we should get Pisczeck. I mean Pisczeck is IMO better than Licht as much as I love him and we'll have both Isla and Pisczeck in RB. You may think it's unrealistic that we get Pisczeck but he's only about 20m. The only reason he wouldn't come is because Dortmund are kind of in a crisis with selling its stars...

Maybe this is how it will look like next season:

Buffon

Pisczeck Barzagli Chiellini Coentrao

Vidal Pirlo Marchisio

Gio Higuain Vucinic

I put Gio there because he's amazing when he plays on the wing and I have a feeling next season is his season. Higuain beats Llorente hands down in everything so he's in the center and Mirko is Mirko and we need him for those beautiful chips and passes. I think this formation is very possible next season and it can get us far in the CL. As for Asamoah, I really don't know where he'd fit Maybe if Coentrao moves to center he can play in LB but Conte already put him as a winger and now he'd move him bback. I don't know about him but I wouldn't be happy if that happened...

 

[Lion]

giovinco deserves another chance.....especially if coach plans 4-3-3. sadli i think coach not very flexible.

until bonucci injured, formation not changing.

 

[ForzaJuve12]

Gio and Vucinic would not work on the wings, neither tracks back.

If we plan to use the 4-3-3, we need to purchase a natural winger like Nani or Di Maria. Also, I doubt we will bench Llorente. The only player we currently have who can make the 4-3-3 work is Pepe but he's not good enough if we want to win the CL.

Vucinic does track back if you watched him play two seasons ago when we would play 4-3-3. Conte only plays players who track back and help the defense and if he didn't then Conte wouldn't have played him.

Gio, on the other hand, barely tracks back and he would be considered our "selfish" winger. Think about it, whenever he had the ball in the wing he would cut through and get a half chance. You remember all the corners Pirlo would play short to him and he would cut through into the box and pass to the center? He had like a 70% success rate with that. Imagine him being on the wing for the whole game...

Llorente IMO is not going to find a place to play. If we get Higuain or any other "top" striker then they would be better than him. The only reason we would need him is for the aerial threat. I've watched him play multiple times and from what I've seen he isn't fast and is kind of lazy. When he played every game for Bilbao two seasons ago he only scored 15 goals in the league, and that's the La Liga...

 

[Red]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/may/28/tactical-trends-2012-13

 

[Lion]

i cant wait until pre season training.

would like to see what conte has in mind for formations.

if he is switching from 3--5-2 to something else it could be an indication of who else juve might sign

 

[Catenaccio]

Conte won't and should not totally abandon the 352 which worked well last season. Tevez and Llorente will easily fit in to that formation without any issues.

We still don't have the players to play a 4231 or 433 formation unless Pepe recovers or we purchase another player. I could however, see a formation like a 4321 with Vucinic and Tevez behind Llorente.

 

[alexjuventino]

Conte won't and should not totally abandon the 352 which worked well last season. Tevez and Llorente will easily fit in to that formation without any issues.

We still don't have the players to play a 4231 or 433 formation unless Pepe recovers or we purchase another player. I could however, see a formation like a 4321 with Vucinic and Tevez behind Llorente.

Doesnt provide any width

 

[ZoSo]

3-5-2/3-5-1-1

Buffon
Barza-Bonucci-Chiellini
Licht-Vidal-Pirlo-Marchisio-Asamoah
Tevez
Llorente​

3-4-3

Buffon
Barza-Bonucci-Chiellini
Licht-Vidal-Marchisio-Asamoah
Tevez-Llorente-Jovetic*​

3-4-1-2

Buffon
Barza-Bonucci-Chiellini
Licht-Vidal-Marchisio-Asamoah
Jovetic*
Tevez-Llorente​

4-3-3

Buffon
Licht-Barza-Chiello-Kolarov*
Vidal-Pirlo-Marchisio
Tevez-Llorente-Jovetic*​

4-3-1-2

Buffon
Licht-Barza-Chiello-Kolarov*
Vidal-Pirlo-Marchisio
Jovetic*
Tevez-Llorente​

4-2-3-1

Buffon
Licht-Barza-Chiello-Kolarov*
Vidal-Marchisio
Tevez-Jovetic*-Vucinic
Llorente​

4-3-2-1

Buffon
Licht-Barza-Chiellini-Kolarov*
Vidal-Pirlo-Marchisio
Tevez-Jovetic*
Llorente
​

some options..

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

3-5-2/3-5-1-1

Buffon
Barza-Bonucci-Chiellini
Licht-Vidal-Pirlo-Marchisio-Asamoah
Tevez
Llorente​

3-4-3

Buffon
Barza-Bonucci-Chiellini
Licht-Vidal-Marchisio-Asamoah
Tevez-Llorente-Jovetic*​

3-4-1-2

Buffon
Barza-Bonucci-Chiellini
Licht-Vidal-Marchisio-Asamoah
Jovetic*
Tevez-Llorente​

4-3-3

Buffon
Licht-Barza-Chiello-Kolarov*
Vidal-Pirlo-Marchisio
Tevez-Llorente-Jovetic*​

4-3-1-2

Buffon
Licht-Barza-Chiello-Kolarov*
Vidal-Pirlo-Marchisio
Jovetic*
Tevez-Llorente​

4-2-3-1

Buffon
Licht-Barza-Chiello-Kolarov*
Vidal-Marchisio
Tevez-Jovetic*-Vucinic
Llorente​

4-3-2-1

Buffon
Licht-Barza-Chiellini-Kolarov*
Vidal-Pirlo-Marchisio
Tevez-Jovetic*
Llorente
​

some options..

I can't even imagine how you feel right now

 

[ZoSo]

you have no idea... man it's going to feel like ages before we get to see them play

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I hope we get group of death in CL, because we will rape everyone

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Yeah I seriously cannot wait to see how we fare in he CL next season with such a massive improvement upfront. Exciting times ahead boys. Lets savour it.