In the case of Turkey, it's taking secularism so far that you ban harmless religious practices of a religion that is practiced by the vast majority of the population.
No problem mate, it's my pleasure
Not saying he's not an Islamist, but ISIS is just a foreign policy tool for him, and he is the same to them mind you. Believe me sooner or later, they will turn against each other, because ideologically they are so far apart from each other, and because in the eyes of militant salafists like ISIS, Erodogan is considered a secular infidel, that should be taken by the sword sooner or later.
How does it feel knowing that you don't have the capability to actually engage in any sort of meaningful debate with me, and that all you can do is throw in a cynical one liner here and there?
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Go back to my posts, you'll see that I said two things:
1. When held against western standards, obviously Turkey hasn't reached that stage of freedom of expression amongst other things.
2. However, that has always been the case, it's just that the media pay more attention to it, now that it's Erdogan. What I said in my posts, is that Turkey did not get worse in freedom of expression/human rights after the AKP, you would have gotten into a lot more trouble prior to 2002, if you did the same with Kemal Ataturk.