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What's so bad pretending in a court that you love and admire the bible and that you can swear on it day and night? I say nothing.
 
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    ميكائيل بيرك;2619351 said:
    In court you just take an oath, there no longer is a bible.

    You say something to the effect, "I will not lie to you and everything I say is truthful as far as I know, or to my best ability and recollection."
    That's another thing though. I was always astounded to see in tv series about police or lawyers how they would question suspects/witnesses about their memories. "Where were you on the night in question at 22?" Meanwhile the investigation drags on for weeks. I don't even remember what I did on Monday.
     
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    What's so bad pretending in a court that you love and admire the bible and that you can swear on it day and night? I say nothing.
    It's extremely ironic. Here are you promising to tell the truth about questions that will be asked to you shortly. Meanwhile here you are lying about this swearing stuff. If you're lying now, why would you tell the truth later? It's all backwards.
     

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    That's another thing though. I was always astounded to see in tv series about police or lawyers how they would question suspects/witnesses about their memories. "Where were you on the night in question at 22?" Meanwhile the investigation drags on for weeks. I don't even remember what I did on Monday.
    You familiar with depositions?
     

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    It's extremely ironic. Here are you promising to tell the truth about questions that will be asked to you shortly. Meanwhile here you are lying about this swearing stuff. If you're lying now, why would you tell the truth later? It's all backwards.
    Why would I waste my time and explain to bunch of people in a court plus the judge that a bible to me is a random book just like any other book that I don't really care about?
     
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    Why would I waste my time and explain to bunch of people in a court plus the judge that a bible to me is a random book just like any other book that I don't really care about?
    It's not about you, though. The reason they give you that book is based on the assumption that people believe in god and having sworn on the bible they will not lie, because lying will send them to hell. This is the assumption baked into a modern legal system, which doesn't exactly make it look good.

    Suppose that when police arrested you they would have to do a quick exorcism because they had just handled a suspect. Would you feel good in their hands or would you wonder what else these cooks are capable of?
     

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    Probably. Depositions are where a witness or expert or accused is asked questions about the case way before the trial. That way the attorneys have a record of what you said prior to asking you about it in court.

    Also if you're involved in a case that required a police report, you're generally asked what happened and its written in there usually a short period of time (minutes or hours) after the "whatever" occurred.

    Not being able to remember is ok too, so long as you say it before you go to court. A witness that can't remember Monday on Wednesday is not a good witness to call before a courtroom and is unlikely to be called.

    I saw a guy steal a car once, but I couldn't remember his face. It was early in the morning, dark and the guy had a jacket and hat on. So the police and the attorney elected to not even officially interview me.

    Attorneys very rarely ask questions that they don't already know the answer to or at least have a very good idea of what the answer will be.
     
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    Probably. Depositions are where a witness or expert or accused is asked questions about the case way before the trial. That way the attorneys have a record of what you said prior to asking you about it in court.

    Also if you're involved in a case that required a police report, you're generally asked what happened and its written in there usually a short period of time (minutes or hours) after the "whatever" occurred.

    Not being able to remember is ok too, so long as you say it before you go to court. A witness that can't remember Monday on Wednesday is not a good witness to call before a courtroom and is unlikely to be called.

    I saw a guy steal a car once, but I couldn't remember his face. It was early in the morning, dark and the guy had a jacket and hat on. So the police and the attorney elected to not even officially interview me.

    Attorneys very rarely ask questions that they don't already know the answer to or at least have a very good idea of what the answer will be.
    I was gonna ask if that's the case what is the point of asking people the same questions they've answered before, but then you said exactly that yourself. So the whole thing is not about getting information, but about trying to trap people on giving a different answer?
     

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    I was gonna ask if that's the case what is the point of asking people the same questions they've answered before, but then you said exactly that yourself. So the whole thing is not about getting information, but about trying to trap people on giving a different answer?
    It's about getting information. However, you'd be surprised at how versions of stories change between the time of a deposition and the trial. Some attorney's will attempt to trick you, but your attorney can coach you based on the depositions to be ready for the other attorney's questions. Both attorneys get the opportunity to question a witness during a trial and both can do it multiple times (rebuttals) if needed.

    In addition if you find out at a deposition that a witness isn't good for you or isn't as reliable as you thought, you can drop him or her. As an attorney, the more information you get before you go to trial, the better job you'll do serving your client.
     
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    It's about getting information. However, you'd be surprised at how versions of stories change between the time of a deposition and the trial. Some attorney's will attempt to trick you, but your attorney can coach you based on the depositions to be ready for the other attorney's questions. Both attorneys get the opportunity to question a witness during a trial and both can do it multiple times (rebuttals) if needed.

    In addition if you find out at a deposition that a witness isn't good for you or isn't as reliable as you thought, you can drop him or her. As an attorney, the more information you get before you go to trial, the better job you'll do serving your client.
    Sounds like you've been to court quite a bit. What's it like?
     
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    Very, very boring with small intervals of excitement.
    I've been there once with my junior high class (lol). We were sitting in on a trial of some guy who was charged with dozens of robberies. Breaking into a school to steal computers etc. Like you said it's really boring.
     

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    I've been there once with my junior high class (lol). We were sitting in on a trial of some guy who was charged with dozens of robberies. Breaking into a school to steal computers etc. Like you said it's really boring.
    I've been to mostly civil trials where the majority of the work is done behind closed doors.

    You very rarely get the Law and Order ending.
     
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    I've been to mostly civil trials where the majority of the work is done behind closed doors.

    You very rarely get the Law and Order ending.
    I don't even watch Law and Order, but I used to watch Matlock.
     

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