Summer mercato thread 2022-23 season (56 Viewers)

[Orgut]

Say we get Raspadori/Depay/Berardi, you can argue that they'll be more effective for our system going forward but you'll get to CL and see that they're well short of what Dybala is capable of. As for Zaniolo with our J Medical butchers, we'd never see him play.

If they can make us more effective the team will be better hence all the players of our team will probably play better which means a better team.
As for individual brilliance - It might matter if we get past the first or second knockout stage but we havent been there to even understand how important it is.
We had Ronaldo who is MR. CL but still failed. I`d take team over player anyday and then when the time is right we also take players who can suit our team and provide individual brilliance.

Berardi and Depay can make things happen by the way but Raspadori is more for the future than the present..

 

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[Orgut]

I don't think it was a case of not being able to afford it. The management probably just thought that his performances and lack of availability didn't warrant a pay rise, and rightly so.

FI just reported a few days ago that we need to sell in order to sign so maybe its a combination of both..

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Some attacking players that have a year left on their contracts this summer: Salah, Mane, Gnabry, Sterling, Jesus, Mahrez, Lemar, Asensio and Firmino

Then you have prospects like Adeyemi, Zaniolo and Raspadori who could be available this summer.

There are options. Not sure how many of them are realistic or make sense financially though.

These trio - No chance though..

 

[iosono.bianconero]

You want three new attacking players?

What about the rest of the team? What about the midfield?

If we don’t renew berna, and Morata and Kean are also questionable, we’ll need three players in the attack because only Chiesa and Vlahovic will remain.

 

[.zero]

not sure about his grinta or mentality. just remember when he preferred to stay with sassuolo instead of coming to juve just because he's a guaranteed started there. he was a player who seriously lacked ambition. i do rate berardi, but not because of his mentality. i'd still take him of course, twice the player kulu is.

One could also say SMS lacks ambition. Lotito might gatekeep from Juventus but that doesn’t prevent foreign buyers who would easily meet his asking price. Just a thought.

 

[s4tch]

One could also say SMS lacks ambition. Lotito might gatekeep from Juventus but that doesn’t prevent foreign buyers who would easily meet his asking price. Just a thought.

didn't real madrid have an agreement with sergej a few years ago, then the whole transfer collapsed over lotito's extreme demands?

 

[Bianconero81]

Some attacking players that have a year left on their contracts this summer: Salah, Mane, Gnabry, Sterling, Jesus, Mahrez, Lemar, Asensio and Firmino

Then you have prospects like Adeyemi, Zaniolo and Raspadori who could be available this summer.

There are options. Not sure how many of them are realistic or make sense financially though.

Salah, Mane and Firmino are all approaching 30 (in Firmino's case 31), but I'd definitely take either of Salah or Mane. I don't think they'd want to come here though. Jesus is interesting, Mahrez is no spring chicken, and Lemar and Asensio are nothing special. Gnabry is probably the most interesting one out of that group because of his age and potential wages. Fuck Sterling - meme player.

Adeyemi and Zaniolo are very interesting, but Rusty Doris is nothing to get hard for.

 

[kappa96]

Say we get Raspadori/Depay/Berardi, you can argue that they'll be more effective for our system going forward but you'll get to CL and see that they're well short of what Dybala is capable of. As for Zaniolo with our J Medical butchers, we'd never see him play.

Ohhh we saw what dybala is capable in the cl.
1 goal and 0 assists in 18 cl knockout games.
He's practically carrying Juve all by himself, in that competition.

 

[Xperd]

One could also say SMS lacks ambition. Lotito might gatekeep from Juventus but that doesn’t prevent foreign buyers who would easily meet his asking price. Just a thought.

Pretty much. Foreign buyers dont believe he's worth the fuss.

He's 27 years old now and guy is still at a mid-table Serie A team. Clearly Lotito's fault that he signed a long term contract extension.

2x the player Pogba is indeed

 

[Osman]

One could also say SMS lacks ambition. Lotito might gatekeep from Juventus but that doesn’t prevent foreign buyers who would easily meet his asking price. Just a thought.

Lotito is on record saying won't sell for less then 100m. Haven't entertained any bids less for years.


While Sassuolo is a small selling club who willingly loan out their players with delayed payments.


They not holding anyone hostage, if anything eager to move on players, even if its the best player in club history.



Only thing you can hold against SMS is why he renewed with Lazio. Alot more salary and were strong pretenders for couple season as good incentives. But now time to leave.

 

[Xperd]

Ohhh we saw what dybala is capable in the cl.
1 goal and 0 assists in 18 cl knockout games.
He's practically carrying Juve all by himself, in that competition.

Is this stat made up?

Did we play 18 CL knockout games post 2018? Because I can literally count all the knockout goals he's scored before 2018

1 against Bayern in 2016
1 against Porto in 2017
2 against Barca in 2017
1 against Spurs in 2018

Post 2018, he's been pretty much non-existent in CL knockout games.

 

[kappa96]

Is this stat made up?

Did we play 18 CL knockout games post 2018? Because I can literally count all the knockout goals he's scored before 2018

1 against Bayern in 2016
1 against Porto in 2017
2 against Barca in 2017
1 against Spurs in 2018

Post 2018, he's been pretty much non-existent in CL knockout games.

So he has 1 goal post Barca in 2017, in the cl knockouts. The one against spurs.

 

[Mokku]

Ohhh we saw what dybala is capable in the cl.
1 goal and 0 assists in 18 cl knockout games.
He's practically carrying Juve all by himself, in that competition.

Don't just look at the stats, look at the performances as well. When he was ruled out against Villarreal, I knew we were out.

Anyway, Salah will only leave Liverpool for Barcelona or Madrid, he ain't slumming it with us. Attack has become a problem but we need new midfield and defense across the line. We could do with a keeper too.

 

[kappa96]

Don't just look at the stats, look at the performances as well. When he was ruled out against Villarreal, I knew we were out.

Anyway, Salah will only leave Liverpool for Barcelona or Madrid, he ain't slumming it with us. Attack has become a problem but we need new midfield and defense across the line. We could do with a keeper too.

I can play that game. When I saw that rugano and rabiot were starting I know we were out.

 

[Mokku]

The probability of winning a game with Dybala playing is greater than when he's out, even when handicapped by Rugani/Rabiot/Arthur etc.

With Dybala we can end the season on a high if we win Coppa Italia, without him we'll lose to a Milan for sure.

 

[Orgut]

The probability of winning a game with Dybala playing is greater than when he's out, even when handicapped by Rugani/Rabiot/Arthur etc.

With Dybala we can end the season on a high if we win Coppa Italia, without him we'll lose to a Milan for sure.

We can win draw or lose against Milan Dybala or no Dybala.
Milan are not Bayern Munich.. We can definitely beat them. Due to us being incomplete - I think odds are 50/50

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Pretty much. Foreign buyers dont believe he's worth the fuss.

He's 27 years old now and guy is still at a mid-table Serie A team. Clearly Lotito's fault that he signed a long term contract extension.

2x the player Pogba is indeed

I dont what people say
Attacking wise and linking our mid to attack - Pogba over SMS for me
Defensive abilities - Clearly SMS
Overall - For the same price - SMS is younger and has less ego in him.

That being said - one is free and one isnt.
Level wise - Both are on the same level overall. I just hope we get our (and France`s) Pogba and not that lazy Man Utd player..

 

[BayernFan]

Is Gnabry not renewing with Bayern? Why? Wages? How much?

@DAiDEViL @BayernFan

Seems him and the club can’t agree about the salary. Gnabry wants the same as Coman and Sané, but he dipped too much in form for that to be reasonable imo.

Coman and Sané are definitely our best wingers as things stand.

 

[DAiDEViL]

Is Gnabry not renewing with Bayern? Why? Wages? How much?

@DAiDEViL @BayernFan

He is a bit of a victim of the system they are playing.

 

[.zero]

At least we cannot be considered a selling club unlike 4-5 years ago

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didn't real madrid have an agreement with sergej a few years ago, then the whole transfer collapsed over lotito's extreme demands?

I was unaware of this

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Lotito is on record saying won't sell for less then 100m. Haven't entertained any bids less for years.


While Sassuolo is a small selling club who willingly loan out their players with delayed payments.


They not holding anyone hostage, if anything eager to move on players, even if its the best player in club history.



Only thing you can hold against SMS is why he renewed with Lazio. Alot more salary and were strong pretenders for couple season as good incentives. But now time to leave.

I’m not following your post

So if it’s not Lotito then it’s the players own ambition which was my point

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Also, I’m not correlating ability/talent with ambition. I still rate SMS.

 

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