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Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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So, are we going to bench Dybala or play him out of position to accommodate an outsider, an intruder, a massive shitcunt? I am not in favor of that at all.

Dybala should be the focal point of our attack once Ronaldo leaves.
Dybala is not a prima punta. Why do you keep insisting getting a CF would bench Dybala? For instance the 4-2-3-1 in which we were awesome, would accomodate Dybala, Cristiano and a prima punta. And it would need only one wide player, which is perfect for us, since we're probably selling DC & Berna.
 

Juventinoo

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Oct 20, 2004
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I can't think of a striker that is less suitable to Sarri and CR7/Dybala than Icardi. I see him as a poacher who is not good in the build-up play at all. I rate Higuain much higher than Icardi
I think so too.... if we are ditching 433 to 4312 better no for Icardi also we have Kulu the 45m gamble ... can help in 433....

Icardi was one the players i wanted here last year .... but now He has no place and better fix the mid...

maybe if he get involved in some swap deals to get rid of some players like Pjanic .... i think it is good solution....

i like halaand but that boy will demand immediate 12m at least + 75m+ Riola candies

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So, are we going to bench Dybala or play him out of position to accommodate an outsider, an intruder, a massive shitcunt? I am not in favor of that at all.

Dybala should be the focal point of our attack once Ronaldo leaves.
Thats why no for Icardi ....

but i believe in his talent ...
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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I would like arthur for his level and age, but I see nothing of Iniesta in him. That's not a comparison that comes to mind.
barca fans call him the new xavi, and the comparison makes sense until you only check his movement on the ball. his style of play is similar too, but xavi was a generational talent, arthur's vision is way off that mark. pjanic's time is most probably over at juve, i'm not sure arthur would be the adequate replacement.
 

Boksic

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May 11, 2005
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Dybala is not a prima punta. Why do you keep insisting getting a CF would bench Dybala? For instance the 4-2-3-1 in which we were awesome, would accomodate Dybala, Cristiano and a prima punta. And it would need only one wide player, which is perfect for us, since we're probably selling DC & Berna.
Sarri is not going to play 4-2-3-1 for an extended period. It worked so well under Allegri because we had Mandzukic playing LW who would put in the work, plus a proper RW in Cuadrado. Not to mention Higuain who would put in a shift up front.

4-2-3-1 with Ronaldo as your LW puts a lot more pressure on your left side and midfield. You would need to find a CF who will do the hard work and we haven't been linked to any.
 

Lancelot

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Oct 24, 2011
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So, in that theory we also have to sell Dybala (and a lot more players btw) because he hasn't won anything outside of Juve...
So in theory we have to keep Dybala because he is younger, has won almost everything with Juve and plays regularly for Argentina. All in all he is a proven player.

And more importantly he is not a cunt

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you could have just stopped after the fifth word.

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Btw I bet tevez was a bigger cunt than Icardi
I could have . . .
But you should have just stopped after your first word
 

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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So in theory we have to keep Dybala because he is younger, has won almost everything with Juve and plays regularly for Argentina. All in all he is a proven player.

And more importantly he is not a cunt

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I could have . . .
But you should have just stopped after your first word
He's a bench player for Argentina, dude. Get real.

And in your logic, pal... He won everything with Juve. Just like Padoin did. Let's get him back.

Icardi is as proven as they get... Funny you're sort of denying that. If anyone doesn't want him because he's an ass, I understand. All the rest is bullocks.
 

Gigiventus

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Mar 3, 2017
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Its hilarious to read that Icardi isn't a proven player. He hasn't won trophies because he is with Inter, but his performances are absolutely top class.

He has scored 9 goals in 12 CL games including top opposition. He had a 29 goal season in Serie A. He had 100 goals in Serie A by 25 iirc. Even as a kid in Sampdoria he scored a lot.

His terrible personality really drives people to ignore his football.
 

pavluska

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Apr 25, 2013
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I'm liking seeing more and more Tuzini understanding and coming to terms with the inevitable boon in us signing Icardi

So, are we going to bench Dybala or play him out of position to accommodate an outsider, an intruder, a massive shitcunt? I am not in favor of that at all.

Dybala should be the focal point of our attack once Ronaldo leaves.
He'll be most welcome :baus: :b81:
 

JuveJay

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Well, first of all. That is an assumption, not a fact. A fact that easily is wiped away by his period at an abysmal inter without service. He still kept them afloat...

And secondly, I'd love for the 'way we play' to actually evolve into something not so fucking predictable and Ronaldo-dependent.

I'd say we definitely need a new striker. And it needs to be a killer. I'd even try Jovic at the right price...
Jovic seems like an atypical modern airhead footballer, perhaps even dumber than Icardi, so let's avoid him.

If you watch Icardi play it's pretty obvious that he doesn't contribute to play in the way that Higuain has for us and did for Sarri at Napoli. When he was at Empoli he had two strikers in Maccarone and Tavano who could play and assist, the fluidity being key. He wanted to play one striker there too but like he has had to with a legendary striker in Ronaldo and a talent like Dybala in the team, he found a way to incorporate two excellent veterans at a small team and moved away from the systems he previously employed at Avellino, Alessandria, Sorrento and others when he used a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 with wingers being key, and would later revert to at Napoli.

More important than who plays #9 in getting Juve to play in Sarri's style are pressing midfielders and skillful and decisive wingers.

At the end of the day, Paratici and co. will speak to Sarri and see if he wants Icardi. Sarri is unlikely to say no, because if Higuain is leaving what coach isn't going to want a player who could potentially score 25 goals? And more likely is that Paratici will sign him anyway and make it work, because that seems to be more the way in the DS/coach relationship than a manager in England.

For the record, I'm not totally against the Icardi signing, but there are issues with it. Almost every goal Icardi scores is either a penalty or inside 12 yards from a ball into the box from wide areas. He's a killer, but we already have one who plays slightly off to the left. Finding who provides this service is key, because from the left there is almost no threat from Alex Sandro now he has to manage the whole left flank. Big pressure on DC, Cuadrado, Dybala and perhaps Kulusevski next season.
 

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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Jovic seems like an atypical modern airhead footballer, perhaps even dumber than Icardi, so let's avoid him.

If you watch Icardi play it's pretty obvious that he doesn't contribute to play in the way that Higuain has for us and did for Sarri at Napoli. When he was at Empoli he had two strikers in Maccarone and Tavano who could play and assist, the fluidity being key. He wanted to play one striker there too but like he has had to with a legendary striker in Ronaldo and a talent like Dybala in the team, he found a way to incorporate two excellent veterans at a small team and moved away from the systems he previously employed at Avellino, Alessandria, Sorrento and others when he used a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 with wingers being key, and would later revert to at Napoli.

More important than who plays #9 in getting Juve to play in Sarri's style are pressing midfielders and skillful and decisive wingers.

At the end of the day, Paratici and co. will speak to Sarri and see if he wants Icardi. Sarri is unlikely to say no, because if Higuain is leaving what coach isn't going to want a player who could potentially score 25 goals? And more likely is that Paratici will sign him anyway and make it work, because that seems to be more the way in the DS/coach relationship than a manager in England.

For the record, I'm not totally against the Icardi signing, but there are issues with it. Almost every goal Icardi scores is either a penalty or inside 12 yards from a ball into the box from wide areas. He's a killer, but we already have one who plays slightly off to the left. Finding who provides this service is key, because from the left there is almost no threat from Alex Sandro now he has to manage the whole left flank. Big pressure on DC, Cuadrado, Dybala and perhaps Kulusevski next season.
Sarri wanted Icardi for years. No matter how we to spin it; I think he knows his own system.

Exactly the problem; having only one killer so everything depends on him.
 

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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Yes that's true, a point I forgot to post. He was very keen on him at Napoli.
I think the point is Sarri is a stubborn coach in his type of play. But concerning the formations he is definitely not.

We won't know what he'll bring to the table once the squad is there. And giving him the best possible attack goes a long way in a succesful Sarri team, I guess. Besides dominant midfielders of course. I'd doubt we'll go with a true winger based formation.
 

MikeM

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Sep 21, 2008
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Ronaldo can score the same goals. Don't tell me he can't. We need the players who can provide the ball into these areas, not someone to finish them. Unless suddenly Dybala turns into Di Maria.

 

Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
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Who the fuck cares what the chain smoking cancer wants? Hopefully he won't be around for long.

Since when do we accommodate the coach's needs? If we did, our midfield wouldn't look like it does now, and we won't be so imbalanced when it comes to the wide areas either.

Ronaldo is going to be around until 2022, so we can put off signing that killer until the summer of 2021.
 

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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Ronaldo can score the same goals. Don't tell me he can't. We need the players who can provide the ball into these areas, not someone to finish them. Unless suddenly Dybala turns into Di Maria.
No CL contender bets on one horse. Not even if it's Cristiano.
 

LiquidPLP

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Jun 9, 2012
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Yeah, that's definitely true - as long as Ronaldo is here, we don't need Icardi simply because he's too expensive to sit on the bench and he won't play with CR7 and Dybala in the trident - that would be madness.

I say we recall Higuain and keep him for at least one more year, perhaps even two. What is more urgent is to add B2B/attacking mids Sarri needs and also a couple of wingers if Berna and Costa are truly leaving.

If Higuain prefers contract termination and refuses to come back, then get someone cheap like Mertens and focus on the midfield and wingers. Otherwise we'll have another year of Sarri trying to play his football with Matuidi and Berna.

My feeling is that the attack was never a problem to begin with and definitely that is true for Sarri's tenure here. CR7, Dybala and Higuain will score plenty more once the service is there.
 
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