Summer Mercato Thread 2018 (65 Viewers)

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italiacalcio10

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The problem is there’s a lot of discretion.
Bentancur was bought for around 10m, on 5 yr contract. His book value is like 8M. So if we transfer him + 50M for SMS. Juve could argue that 58M is the right valuation for Bentancur. While obviously understanding SMS’ value, it benefits Juve in two ways.

Suppose they value Bentancur at 40, and therefore SMS at 90, you then depreciate SMS at 18 per year and pay 20M to Boca. But if you value him at 8, the payment is only 4M and the depreciation charge is 11.6.

Just through valuation you not only juice your P&L but also your cash flow.

You can bet that if sold Beppe as part of an exchange, Bepps will look to understate that value as much as possible, with out it being obvious.


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pavluska

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not to mention we were happy to sell him to Chelsea before they backed out of buying Higgy
No, we weren't. Confirmed by his agent, and irrespective of how you rate Rugani, there was no way we were going to reduce the number of homegrown players when we were already short.

so he hasn't been able to crack the starting 11 for 4 straight seasons, can you give me a prediction which will be his breakout year? I used to collect all the "Rugani will be a starter next season" posts, this summer has been surprisingly empty, can you give me one?
Then you make as much sense as those who thought Rugani was going to displace peak Chiellini and Bonucci. If some did post that. Wouldn't be surprised.
 

pavluska

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:tup:

I was really psyched about his signing, but by the end of the year I'd almost forgotten how good he was the first couple months, he was so bad post-injury.

In this modern world it's sometimes hard to escape that "what have you done for me lately" mindset of 'Muricans.
@Hustini @CR 7 @Kyle

Love you guys. :D
You can be forgiven, but it can't be forgotten that you compared Matuidi to Sturaro just like how your passionate "Saponara > Isco" debate will always be remembered lol. :p

Muricans actually make a lot more sense when it comes to sports. Less subjectivity and more stats in Murican sports help.
 

pavluska

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The funniest ?


- A one-season wonder SMS is twice the player Pjanic is

- 'It is logical to sell Pjanic instead of Rugani'

-Advocating for Cuadrado to be our next RB before we signed an actual and better RB in Cancelo

Cant get more numpty-ish than that.
You must've ticked all of them in my post lol.

SMS isn't a one season wonder. He was good the prev season too. A young player getting better each successive season only increases his value. Saying inconsistent Pjanic is better than Pogba and SMS is Matuidi=Sturaro level ridiculous form/result/rumors-based hype of the month type comment.

That's not what I exactly said, but if you thought there was more chance of us selling HG young Rugani instead of 28 yo Pjanic for a fee higher than his market/actual price (like 100m) when we've been selling good players in their late 20s since at least the 1960s, OK.

Just because we bought Ronaldo doesn't mean we've Real?Barca/Utd money now and can buy anyone. After spending like 150m net in this mercato, we had to sell to buy. Asking the club to sign another CM while simultaneously ignoring simple financial facts makes no sense.

Cuadrado will definitely get games at RB this season. It's a given. Even the coach said so. And unless you think we'll play this season with only three healthy FBs with one them being heavily injury-prone.
 

pitbull

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No, we weren't. Confirmed by his agent, and irrespective of how you rate Rugani, there was no way we were going to reduce the number of homegrown players when we were already short.
Then you make as much sense as those who thought Rugani was going to displace peak Chiellini and Bonucci. If some did post that. Wouldn't be surprised.
dunno, I thought the Chelsea rumors were legit, too much noise for a fake story.

and please, help me out, 2018 is looking really thin atm :D

2015:
Class. This kid is so talented he'll be a starter for us sooner then later.
Rugani might not be a full time starter next season but it's really just a matter of time. To me he's the best CB in serie A
We should make him a starter next year.
Barzagli - Rugani.
a loan till the end of the season wouldn't be that bad atleast he will play something he won't do for us this season. then next year he will be a starter.
2016:
the kid will be a starter next season if beppe dont loan him out with the right to buy.
since he gained confidence he is a starter material for us. He is also bigger threat at corners than some of our starting CBs
Another great header from a corner. Looked smooth and composed at the back again, he's coming of age. He'll be a starter here before long.
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Selling Bonucci would be madness, Killini for a crazy sum? Sure.
I think both Rugani and Mario are starters and unless they have a bad match Killini Bonucci and Dybala have to earn their place back in.
Should be a starter even when everyone comes back.
This kid is already playing like a seasoned veteran at 22 years of age. A huge talent, he will definitely be considered a starter for us sooner rather than later. His poise, calmness, positioning and strength in the air are all first class. He's like a Barzagli jnr.
2017:
Should be a regular starter
He already deserves to be a starter.Not a single mistake.The kid is a working machine.:delpiero:
This guy would be starter anywhere else. Best young CB in teh world maybe?
He should be a starter next season. Enough pampering. Let him become our standard in defense
It's definitely time to phase him in as a starter. He's ready to step up.
Well, the season will tell. He should become a starter eventually this season.
If not, he is gone. Right.
2018
Rugani will be a starter next season
 
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